Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.4 v9.02 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[Joe Steel]

I hope so
Considering Monica's personnality, it would be interesting to see if she'll end like an obedient slave (i hope not), or in the contrary, resist and try to escape (punishments if she fails etc.).

That's really the only decision you have to make, and what it decides is whether she becomes an obedient slave immediately or after some pain. I agree that the audience should want to see it, but think it should come after the main story.

 

[Scorpead]

thx

yes, first, go "home", argue with the gard and then go to clothing store.

got it

 

[Joe Steel]

i didnt say i dont like it its just the same as every other game where you begin as a powerfull female and ends up like a slave or whore
and humiliation is something totally differend the possible rape by the ranch animals and clients ( sex with someone against her/his wil is rape not humiliation but can be a smal part of it ) so the ranche is a rape farm

Yes, the Ranch will be hard to take for some people, but the solution is to play the game in such a way as to never go there. Whether Monica ends as a slave or whore, or whether she ends "back in the saddle again," is up to the player and the choices he or she makes (at least, from everything that DM has said). Just avoid the ending you don't want to see.

 

[Joe Steel]

One of the really great things on this game are, that you can click on nearly everything. On every item, Monica has a comment or opinion. Some are just comments, some other let you learn more about her past or her feelings. During dialogues, the scenes change somethimes, also the comments of the items do.

Yes. As many times as I played the game, I only noticed that in the last update. It's just another bit of icing on the cake.

 

[Ragnaroekr]

Yes. As many times as I played the game, I only noticed that in the last update. It's just another bit of icing on the cake.

keep in mind that there are even items which de,- or increase Monicas bitchyness... I gave two examples some pages ago...
Also the items tell sometimes a lot about Monicas past. You learn that she made a stain on a carpet as a child, that she fears chandeliers and grew up near a lake...

 

[Trasher2018]

When I am in the city again I dont know what to do. checkt all places but there is nothing I can do.

 

[Ragnaroekr]

When I am in the city again I dont know what to do. checkt all places but there is nothing I can do.

I guess you are out of prison again. First, go to your home. Argue there with the guard. After that you can look around or go directly to the clothing shop. It is important, that you talked with the guard before.
In the clothing shop, go to the counter after the saleswoman is gone, eat the chocolate and then go to the dressing room, sleep there on the couch.

 

[Mitta073]

will the mac version get updated soon?

 

[ozzo]

Hello,
I am currently trying to play as a good person in this game and is stuck at the office.
I have the objectiv "go to your office" but i cant do anything here, when i try to work it says i should talk to secretary but she wont tell me anything.
Is the good person route a dead end or am i missing something?

 

[vultron]

Literally everything bad that happens to this cunt is her own fault hell it's not even the players dialogue choices that do it because no matter what you choose she acts like a complete jackass xD

 

[Joe Steel]

To be super decent, it's not enough just to be nice to everyone. There are some items which influence Monica's mood.

Spoiler: 2 examples

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For this playthrough, where you want to see (and the designer tells us to see) the jail scenes based on naughty and nice, there needs to be some way to adjust bitchiness quickly. No one wants to replay hours of game to see minutes of different gameplay. There should be an item that changes mood as often as touched, not just once.

 

[Joe Steel]

Hello,
I am currently trying to play as a good person in this game and is stuck at the office.
I have the objectiv "go to your office" but i cant do anything here, when i try to work it says i should talk to secretary but she wont tell me anything.
Is the good person route a dead end or am i missing something?

Have you lost and found the phone? If not, go to the elevator lobby on the ground floor and see if the phone is there. You need it, IIRC, to call Steve and start the next element of the game. If that's not the issue, then maybe you need to go into the photo studio.

 

[peemf95]

Hello,
I am currently trying to play as a good person in this game and is stuck at the office.
I have the objectiv "go to your office" but i cant do anything here, when i try to work it says i should talk to secretary but she wont tell me anything.
Is the good person route a dead end or am i missing something?

The only end to "good girl" route is a happy ending, but it's not happening at the office.
So you're definitely missing something, but I'm not sure at which point in the story you are.
Is it first visit at the office? Did you do anything there already?

 

[peemf95]

Finally I had time to play this update until end (well, good girl route only so far, but still... )
I was really curious how can DecentMonkey fit this good route in prison scenes. And he did great work as usual
I loved that we were not locked into some paths. I mean when Monica "acquired" some information from other prisoners, we could choose if she uses it... or not

Overall another fantastic update, adding a lot to old version's story.

 

[kookieman12]

Amazing game! just finished it at the store with the bitchy path. What happens if you accept Marcus' offer and don't leave the police station? I didn't save at that point.

 

[peemf95]

Amazing game! just finished it at the store with the bitchy path. What happens if you accept Marcus' offer and don't leave the police station? I didn't save at that point.

Not much as this part is not done yet. So don't worry, you're not missing anything.

 

[E.l.l.0]

Well, well, well... Welcome to the Bizarro World!

First, I must say I am a fan of the game, that's why I take the trouble to make this comment. I want this game to succeed, so I will try to make some constructive criticism.

About the new content that I was oblivious about: it looks like some bizarre fetish fest that came out of nowhere. Not that I am against this type of content, it just seemed very out of context. If we were to believe this new scene where Monica gets imprisoned, it would have been in an uncivilized place, in some parallel universe, where society would behave differently. It looks just like the twilight zone of porn. If they seriously treated her that way, they would have never let her go, because she would spill the beans, so she would have to be neutralized. But if that were to happen to her, I suppose many people would start to ask about her. Even if she hadn't many friends, she was still famous.

When I read the game overview I was thinking something on the line of a rich, famous, and jet set girl, that somehow finds herself in a bankrupt position and now has to scale all the way up back to power from square one (whoring herself back to power, that is). So, I thought this game had huge potential if it was led in this approach. It still has, but IMHO the ranch part seems very out of place. Why not make another game called Ranch Training or something along those lines? Just make Fashion Business be more about the fashion and business side of the world.

About the English in the game; it's terrible. And I'm not a native speaker. You need to find someone to write proper English before you process it into the game. At least, present the lines that you write to someone who can make adjustments faithful to what you want to express, and then after you confirm them as correct, implement them into the game. Most objects, in English, are genderless, so chocolate is not a she, it's an it.

Finally, I understand this is a work in progress, and I hope I'm not being too harsh because I love the concept, the backstory, and the characters (outside the prison and ranch part), and I care for this project. I'm even presenting my availability here to help in some form, if you so desire. I don't want to seem presumptuous, I'm just expressing what I feel. Please, I hope you consider what I said, as well as others' opinions, and do what you think is right.

Keep up the good work.

 

[fenixblack]

About that Ranch: I don't have any insights into the story writing of decentmonkey, but I guess it was never suppose to be implemented and there are no real intentions to do that in the future. It seems too out of place and I can't think of any sane person who finds pleasure in extreme beastiality or even worse. I thought the rape scene with Marcus was already pretty graphic. Some of us know that there is at least one scene yet to come with Frank, but I really hope it doesn't get any worse than that. I could think of one way or another to humiliate or pay back Monica which doesn't involve forced gangbang rape or prostitution. From what I've read so far I think decentmonkey really likes his character Monica and will leave her some dignity after all

 

[Trasher2018]

I guess you are out of prison again. First, go to your home. Argue there with the guard. After that you can look around or go directly to the clothing shop. It is important, that you talked with the guard before.
In the clothing shop, go to the counter after the saleswoman is gone, eat the chocolate and then go to the dressing room, sleep there on the couch.

Yeah, but when I enter the store she leaves after a small self-dialog automatically.

 

[Joe Steel]

Ellordings, you are correct that this story couldn't actually happen in any society with rule of law, but I think of this as taking place in some society with modern things but a corrupt government - or, at least, a corrupt police force. After all, all we know about Monica's troubles is what Marcus says, and he has a vested interest in making her case look more hopeless than it is. The absurdity of a modern legal system acting like this has to be overlooked for the sake of the story. I don't think that a simple bankruptcy would reduce someone in Monica's position to utter destitution; a certain US president has practically made a career out of going bankrupt. The game needs this legal sanction to really break her.

The ranch serves as a motivation for Monica. It doesn't exist in the game yet, so don't let that put you off. The Engrish in the game is obvious, but I think you over-state the extent to which it interferes with the game's enjoyment.