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Damn, you can love or hate this game or the dev... But hats off to him, dude is a freaking titan of work compared to most adult game devs out there. Always shit ton of renders, steady schedule, and he's already 11% into the next update.
Monkey definitely worth supporting.
Yes! there is a TITAN job that has been already done and it is the same from the EP1
So boring watch the same renders for YEARS

adding contents is very easy for the DEV

Renders are always the same in the same locations... it is very easy to made tons of renders by this way
(in Games Like TAC the locations are always different)
he needs to just add the new renders and text... and codes... ALL THE GRIND IS ALREADY DONE!
and it is dedicated for us as player... this is a game for masochist players

I agree with you... i have done a TITAN GRIND mechanics... but the updates are the same or less than many ther games

it is not SMART loosing that much time to make annoying a great story!!!

This story deserve a better container as a real Renpy VN engine

-- it is a sandbox... but it is also linear --

sandox+linear story line = this game is a MESS. a good re-wamp is required!
 
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Who knows when Rancho 218 will appear?
Yes this Is a good questione about the
main story line progression ... This story have no progression since the end of Ep 1 there was only 2 different scenes they are avoidable ... The grind is always the same... Story progression is stuck at the EP 1.
 

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Yes this Is a good questione about the
main story line progression ... This story have no progression since the end of Ep 1 there was only 2 different scenes they are avoidable ... The grind is always the same... Story progression is stuck at the EP 1.
I wouldn't really say episode 1 because showing Monica's downfall is also necessary. Her humilaition and degradation is what keeps the game going. The only problem that it has is that it really has been dragged out now without adding to the story. At this point the story points should be introduced again. The entire revenge quest should actually be merged with the main storyline. Monica could do the existing storylines and find in bits and pieces information about who is behind all this and how to get herself out

Also the point about locations. I don't render so I don't know how easy or difficult making the game is but yes Monica's humilaition is also at a stagnant. New jobs or activities should be introduced while scrapping the least popular ones. Like Monica finding a new job during the day, maybe as a cleaner or in a circus or maybe a brothel while quitting the entire slum storyline. Then even if the humiliation is dragged it won't be boring.
 

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Yes this Is a good questione about the
main story line progression ... This story have no progression since the end of Ep 1 there was only 2 different scenes they are avoidable ... The grind is always the same... Story progression is stuck at the EP 1.
I'm just wondering if you are as popular in those games forums you listed as your favourites as you are in this one? Any chance you could throw us a bone and explain what the only 2 different scenes are? I do wonder how you have comprehended even ep 1 if you fly through updates in 30 minutes.

You are coming across as far to modest. You only took credit for the event list. I thought I read in one of your other rants that it was you who was responsible for the episode version names in ep2.2 changing from version 19 to version 3. I mean that is something to be proud of. If I've missed any other contributions humbly remind us and feel free to claim credit of anything that has been changed in the game, you are a true hero.

"I'm not that strong but surely those who don't appreciate my legit opinions focused on the truth, they showing only their weakness"

Very few of your opinions are focused in reality let alone the truth.
Here is one of my favourites.

"adding contents is very easy for the DEV

Renders are always the same in the same locations... it is very easy to made tons of renders by this way
(in Games Like TAC the locations are always different)
he needs to just add the new renders and text... and codes... ALL THE GRIND IS ALREADY DONE!
and it is dedicated for us as player... this is a game for masochist players"

What planet are you living on?

Anyway rant away. At the very least you are amusing. I will attempt to comprehend any point you think you are making.
 
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I wouldn't really say episode 1 because showing Monica's downfall is also necessary. Her humilaition and degradation is what keeps the game going. The only problem that it has is that it really has been dragged out now without adding to the story. At this point the story points should be introduced again. The entire revenge quest should actually be merged with the main storyline. Monica could do the existing storylines and find in bits and pieces information about who is behind all this and how to get herself out

Also the point about locations. I don't render so I don't know how easy or difficult making the game is but yes Monica's humilaition is also at a stagnant. New jobs or activities should be introduced while scrapping the least popular ones. Like Monica finding a new job during the day, maybe as a cleaner or in a circus or maybe a brothel while quitting the entire slum storyline. Then even if the humiliation is dragged it won't be boring.
Monica's downfall is not just necessary but is the whole theme of the game. Episode 1 was just a prologue to her downfall. As another poster here once said Fashion Business is not a hollywood movie. I agree that the main story line needs to kick forward but not that monica taking revenge or gaining her status and power back is the main story.

The downfall of Monica is what this game is focused on and as the game continues she will fall lower and lower in her morality and status to the point where she eventually ends at the ranch. No doubt branching alternate endings with good outcomes for Monica will be available as we move forward. Agreed that Monica needs to investigate who is responsible for her current predicament and attempt to return to her previous life but for the canon timeline of events she will fail through her arrogance and dare I say stupidity.

I disagree that the slum story line is not popular.
 

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Monica's downfall is not just necessary but is the whole theme of the game. Episode 1 was just a prologue to her downfall. As another poster here once said Fashion Business is not a hollywood movie. I agree that the main story line needs to kick forward but not that monica taking revenge or gaining her status and power back is the main story.

The downfall of Monica is what this game is focused on and as the game continues she will fall lower and lower in her morality and status to the point where she eventually ends at the ranch. No doubt branching alternate endings with good outcomes for Monica will be available as we move forward. Agreed that Monica needs to investigate who is responsible for her current predicament and attempt to return to her previous life but for the canon timeline of events she will fail through her arrogance and dare I say stupidity.

I disagree that the slum story line is not popular.
By referring to the revenge storyline I mean getting back at the main story which has been side tracked. And of course with multiple endings some will be good and some will be bad but the plot not processing in any way is the problem. New locations and new predicaments should be introduced. The slums event is just an example. I don't know how popular or unpopular it is. But if new storylines are introduced old ones will have to be given up.
If the theme of the game is the downfall it is necessary to be shown, that's what I meant. How can you say it is not necessary then.

And every storyline and ending is canon.
 

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By referring to the revenge storyline I mean getting back at the main story which has been side tracked. And of course with multiple endings some will be good and some will be bad but the plot not processing in any way is the problem. New locations and new predicaments should be introduced. The slums event is just an example. I don't know how popular or unpopular it is. But if new storylines are introduced old ones will have to be given up.
If the theme of the game is the downfall it is necessary to be shown, that's what I meant. How can you say it is not necessary then.

And every storyline and ending is canon.
I agreed, that's why I wrote not just. I also agree the main story line needs some focus put on it and less Betty high jinks.

Using the term canon was a poor turn of phrase on my part. I was referring more to Monica's ultimate end not an early alternate ending like marrying Dick or potentially running off with Julia.
 

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I agreed, that's why I wrote not just. I also agree the main story line needs some focus put on it and less Betty high jinks.

Using the term canon was a poor turn of phrase on my part. I was referring more to Monica's ultimate end not an early alternate ending like marrying Dick or potentially running off with Julia.
Yes the Betty being a " good wife " is absolutely unnecessary. We get the point that she cheats, it would be better to leave it at that. Also, I do know Victoria is popular but it's getting boring that Melanie and Monica can't do anything. Victoria has such a great amount of plot armour that I wouldn't be surprised that if she were to face Marcus, she would win . She spied on Melanie's house ( basically spying on Monica) which never even implied until the very moment, she can just call up Marcus and Melanie will be thrown in the farm. Now she is after the senator's daughter. She was somehow aware that Melanie and Monica are going to show the proof to Dick.... I mean come on. All the scenes and activities are good but the character and the armour is just irritating.
 

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I disagree that the slum story line is not popular.
I was thinkng you was not a Slum fan...
Are you sure?.. I think Slums plot is a requirement... and it is one of the most popular path
the slum storyline is part of the Main Story with always the same renders that can be counted as new renders by simply adding a a different dialog or one single real new render that count as 20 renders already made...
I perfectly know how DM works... he has made the ASSET
The ASSET IS always the first one ready for the new update because it is always almost same as previous release
Now he have to change dialogs and adding the position of the various characters in pre made renders related with background that are alwaus the same...
(he for sure has at least 3 or more very high power computers that make final renders very fast)
...any update does not require a lot of JOB.. it is just the same as many of other devs that work with passion on one single and cheap computer.

The quality of a developers is not related with the money
The job quality of a developers cannot be judge about the fast developing technique... must be judge to the real skill on writing story line and on his enthusiasm and his passion... so is a nonsense compare a developer with other that do not make the same money/
if the dev make a lot money he must works better than others...
DM have found a smart way to di fast update with poor content and the grind of the asset HIDE this to the players
use gallery mod and you will see that in every update the real new renders can be played in 5 minutes!
(there are a lot of them thinking that he have done a titan job but it is not true)

Different story was for the Event List--- (caused by an error that he admited) and splitting the EP2 in 2 different part (because he realize that there was TOO MUCH BUGS coming up from the ASSET that was no more able to load 10GB of useless always the same renders
....the split in 2 parts was a TITAN JOB (he had to work hard and at the same time released very poor update)

I think all paths about Gym, Cleaning House, Bardie and Betty plots are just side stories not related with Monica main plot.
Only the falling and revenge paths (that was postponed because is not possible in the sandbox asset due to the fact that is a linear story line) those 2 paths are in the Main story line and including the slum and the ShinyHole path to have a sense.
 
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Yes the Betty being a " good wife " is absolutely unnecessary. We get the point that she cheats, it would be better to leave it at that. Also, I do know Victoria is popular but it's getting boring that Melanie and Monica can't do anything. Victoria has such a great amount of plot armour that I wouldn't be surprised that if she were to face Marcus, she would win . She spied on Melanie's house ( basically spying on Monica) which never even implied until the very moment, she can just call up Marcus and Melanie will be thrown in the farm. Now she is after the senator's daughter. She was somehow aware that Melanie and Monica are going to show the proof to Dick.... I mean come on. All the scenes and activities are good but the character and the armour is just irritating.
I agree Bardie, Betty, Cleaning house, and Gym... all that paths are like side stories that have no-sense... the only sense is to take the story long = make more money ... DM is a smart guy ... he knows how to milk his patreon supporters
but that is OK for me...!
takes advantage of the masochist-supporters-stupidity just shows his skill and power
by this way the game will be ready in 5 or more years... or maybe will never end :cool:
 

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The problem with the same stuff Over and Over is that after a while it starts losing appeal. Specially when you need to do things Over and Over. The Betty gym Quest is a bore for instance after the first 3 mandatory times.
The bardie demands make no sense after a while, unlesse the guy is a eunuch.
The Revenge questineline is poorly done since it locks you from the rest of the Story, like Júlia and so on, it should have been properly integrated during the game main plot, like in order to discover stuff having to to some humiliating stuff, etc..
Don't get me wrong, the game is Nice, Monica is stunning to look at, but repetition like in plenty of things in life get's boring fast
 
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The ASSET IS always the first one ready for the new update because it is always almost same as previous release
Now he have to change dialogs and adding the position of the various characters in pre made renders related with background that are alwaus the same...
true and the people there use the gallery mod miss the small differences in a dialog/scene
 

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Bringing Monica to Rancho 218 would really be a dead end to the story, that's true. But if enough users wish for it to show up in the game, there are ways to include it. How about the idea that it's not Monica ending there? It wouldn't be the first time that the user is not playing with Monica but with another character. How about sending Jane or Tiffany (Molly, Ashley,...) to Rancho 218? What if Monica could buy herself some extra time for her plans by offering one of them to Marcus?

The question is not if it's possible to include Rancho 218 in the game, the question is if it's worth the effort. You can't include it in the main plot and I guess it would be a lot of work to design this whole new area. So I doubt it makes sense to do that for a side plot.:)
 

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The problem with the same stuff Over and Over is that after a while it starts losing appeal. Specially when you need to do things Over and Over. The Betty gym Quest is a bore for instance after the first 3 mandatory times.
The bardie demands make no sense after a while, unlesse the guy is a eunuch.
The Revenge questineline is poorly done since it locks you from the rest of the Story, like Júlia and so on, it should have been properly integrated during the game main plot, like in order to discover stuff having to to some humiliating stuff, etc..
Don't get me wrong, the game is Nice, Monica is stunning to look at, but repetition like in plenty of things in life get's boring fast
Yes the only good scene with Julia is this

Anyway I'm an Hero.. ;)
because I have started this game from the beginning for 2 times and after the Event List comes up I was forced to start again for the third time...:mad:
Now I know everything about this game... and here is one of my oldest post... was DECEMBER 2019
As you all can see (new and old users) this game is still stuck at the same point since more than 2 YEARS ago

this game was boring 2 years ago and it still is.
Why I'm here? because I love from time to time look at Monica adventures.. there are some of the new scenes that are great..
the best path for me is
The Grand Hotel and escort story line...(y) unfortunately with the same slow progress and very poor new renders.

Interesting also to read the lying comments of DM and the guys of the team who try and fail to shut me up from the first post I made in this thread

but okay, they are the team ... it is clear that they are trying to make money ... only they do it by trying to hide this ... - they try to help ... but they are focused on ...
in my opinion it is not ethically that whoever is involved in the development of a game posts in the threads where their game was cracked

Decent Monkey was the only one to understood that... and he stopped to post with his own name here...

but maybe he have a different account here...
>Era<?
who knows? :cool:
 
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Bringing Monica to Rancho 218 would really be a dead end to the story, that's true. But if enough users wish for it to show up in the game, there are ways to include it. How about the idea that it's not Monica ending there? It wouldn't be the first time that the user is not playing with Monica but with another character. How about sending Jane or Tiffany (Molly, Ashley,...) to Rancho 218? What if Monica could buy herself some extra time for her plans by offering one of them to Marcus?

The question is not if it's possible to include Rancho 218 in the game, the question is if it's worth the effort. You can't include it in the main plot and I guess it would be a lot of work to design this whole new area. So I doubt it makes sense to do that for a side plot.:)
absolutely disagree with you.
Bringing Monica to Ranch 218 would really be go a step forward in the story...
this is the path of the EP1!!!
I really suggest you to play the first episode...

she could unmask the conspiracy that took her husband to jail and find out all by killing Marcus and his disgusting accomplices .... ...
of course after being heavily humiliated and gangbanged with scenes of piss drinking and bestiality with horses ... and then become again the boss of her fashion magazine where she will talk about her story ...
Monica could become the new Tsarina of Russia at the end... because the MC is always the hero.. (Heroine in this case) of the STORY\

This is how the story of a great MC as Monica is, deserve to be written...
She cannot fall forever (if yes the game is over just now as is)

if she will never be able to win her life back the game is over just now... there will be no interest in continuing to play ALWAYS THE SAME RENDERS with very poor content!!

A great writer is able to manage e great story transformation... but if is trapped in this story and the story will remain like it is right now...
This game will be the BEST EXAMPLE of HOW TO MAKE BORING A very good potential story:cool:
 
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About Rach 218, at the end of episode 1 the game promised something that in episode 2 it didn´t deliver. Monica´s path of degradation and humiliation.
Because what we actually have is not exactly that, it´s just a regular story of power downfall and starting from scratch by any means necessary to recover that same power or even a little more.
 
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Bringing Monica to Rancho 218 would really be a dead end to the story, that's true. But if enough users wish for it to show up in the game, there are ways to include it. How about the idea that it's not Monica ending there? It wouldn't be the first time that the user is not playing with Monica but with another character. How about sending Jane or Tiffany (Molly, Ashley,...) to Rancho 218? What if Monica could buy herself some extra time for her plans by offering one of them to Marcus?

The question is not if it's possible to include Rancho 218 in the game, the question is if it's worth the effort. You can't include it in the main plot and I guess it would be a lot of work to design this whole new area. So I doubt it makes sense to do that for a side plot.:)
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If you do the second Marcus Quest, and by second i mean visiting Marcus for the second time where you start to train as a cat, the episode ends with Monica going to Ranch 218 and it´s supposely end game from what i gathered, so, it seems the Dev has no intention of exploring it further.
 
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