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metzner

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Interesting. My suspicions were formed at the end of episode 1. I have written about it before, but here I will describe it in more detail.
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I had the same impression and a simular theory. But some points I see it a bit different and that is why I abondened the idea in the end.
Don´t get me wrong you maybe right, it is not that far fetched what you wrote, but for me there a some points, that doesn´t add up:

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I had the same impression and a simular theory. But some points I see it a bit different and that is why I abondened the idea in the end.
Don´t get me wrong you maybe right, it is not that far fetched what you wrote, but for me there a some points, that doesn´t add up:

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... that the future is in constant flux, is not fixed, does not follow any grand plan, and is at the mercy of fate and Russian storytellers.
The Russian storyteller last year asked the players for their opinions and suggestions for the development of the game and it was probably not just a polite gesture, but an urgent need to know what the players want to see in the future. So I'm inclined to agree with your statement. But with a plot as twisted as the one in Fashion Business, it's hard to resist speculation. And I think that's another of the game's virtues - it makes you want to discuss different scenarios, character interrelationships and the as yet unresolved mysteries of the game's plot.
 
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What I am sure of is that the history of the game has already been written. It was written three years ago, when the game first started. I read this entire FB forum, all 20,000 posts. It took two weeks of my free time ;) All thoughts and suggestions for the development of the game are taken into account, because there are people here who communicate directly with the developer. His thoughts we can affect the development of the game. This is a fact. We already have :) But, the canonical ending was written a long time ago. It's now that we can discuss that we should have made one or two more game endings with satisfactory results. And hope that the developer, in addition to his, canonical ending, will add one or two more, for us
 

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What I am sure of is that the history of the game has already been written. It was written three years ago, when the game first started. I read this entire FB forum, all 20,000 posts. It took two weeks of my free time ;) All thoughts and suggestions for the development of the game are taken into account, because there are people here who communicate directly with the developer. His thoughts we can affect the development of the game. This is a fact. We already have :) But, the canonical ending was written a long time ago. It's now that we can discuss that we should have made one or two more game endings with satisfactory results. And hope that the developer, in addition to his, canonical ending, will add one or two more, for us
I would think that at least 90% of people who love this game would wish for that canonical ending to be Monica at the farm.:)
View attachment 1650054 I was playing episode 1 to try to open this option but I can't (does anyone know how I do)
View attachment 1650055 when she is polite this option does not appear
That looks like the option that leads Monica back to her husband. You will need to check the walkthrough on Decent Monkey's wiki. I doubt anyone has reached that ending organically. Not only do you need to choose every decent option but also only click on a particular statue in her office.
 

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I would think that at least 90% of people who love this game would wish for that canonical ending to be Monica at the farm.:)
I agree with that, but I'd like to not just see a few renders of Monica being branded on her neck/ass, I'd like to participate in her life on the Farm. I know Patreon is unlikely to allow that. (Although, Lida's Adventures is still being distributed through patreon and they don't care about it for some reason. Funny how selective these Patreon guys are). A full version of such a canonical ending could have been released by DM as a separate patch, distributed through his official website and/or via his subscribestar.adult page.This ending would be great to see all the behind-the-scenes puppeteers without their masks, to see the other forced inhabitants of the Farm (the journalist from Ep3 v6 and other girls who got there), to have a lewd photo(video)shoot for that porn magazine of the Farm owners that Marcus mentioned and Monica could appear on its cover. Well, and maybe do some good scenes with Monica/Melanie/the other girls/and their daily activities on this nice family Farm. (*somewhere in the background you can hear grunting sounds, dog barking and horse neighing*). :cautious:
 

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I agree with that, but I'd like to not just see a few renders of Monica being branded on her neck/ass, I'd like to participate in her life on the Farm. I know Patreon is unlikely to allow that. (Although, Lida's Adventures is still being distributed through patreon and they don't care about it for some reason. Funny how selective these Patreon guys are). A full version of such a canonical ending could have been released by DM as a separate patch, distributed through his official website and/or via his subscribestar.adult page.This ending would be great to see all the behind-the-scenes puppeteers without their masks, to see the other forced inhabitants of the Farm (the journalist from Ep3 v6 and other girls who got there), to have a lewd photo(video)shoot for that porn magazine of the Farm owners that Marcus mentioned and Monica could appear on its cover. Well, and maybe do some good scenes with Monica/Melanie/the other girls/and their daily activities on this nice family Farm. (*somewhere in the background you can hear grunting sounds, dog barking and horse neighing*). :cautious:
Yes 100% agree. What I'd like to see is at the end of what is now episode 3 Monica is sent to the farm. All the other routes should end during ep3. Monica might run away with Julia as an early end or take over the shiny hole. She can become the permanent administrator of the VIP escort business or end up as a street hooker. The point being that whatever other path Monica takes other than the farm it becomes an ending to the game just like Monica marrying Dick was in episode 1. The ultimate end of episode 3 should be Monica going to bed after her first day at the farm.

Episode 4 should be Monica dealing with the farm.
 

metzner

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Yes 100% agree. What I'd like to see is at the end of what is now episode 3 Monica is sent to the farm. All the other routes should end during ep3. Monica might run away with Julia as an early end or take over the shiny hole. She can become the permanent administrator of the VIP escort business or end up as a street hooker. The point being that whatever other path Monica takes other than the farm it becomes an ending to the game just like Monica marrying Dick was in episode 1. The ultimate end of episode 3 should be Monica going to bed after her first day at the farm.

Episode 4 should be Monica dealing with the farm.
Why do we need a canonical ending at all? This is only necessary if you plan an successor.
I think episode 4 as a conclusion for all paths would be the best. The farm is way to specific for many players and i really doubt, that most patreons would like that.
I think every player of the game has it´s favourite path and some content they don´t like that much. In my case I´m not a big fan of the Julia and the House path (it´s not the same without the brat Bardie), but there are surely players out there, who love the routes.
I see it that way:
1. Episode: Monica loses everything. From riches to rags
2. Episode: Monica explores her new life and make new friends and enemies
3. Episode: Crossroads, the paths go deeper, Monica comes more and more to term with them and at the end she finally has to decide, which route she will follow (some maybe combinable, some will exclude each other)
4. Episode: All paths come to an end and define Monicas future life. (Farm included)

Maybe after Episode 4 DM could still support this game as a little sideproject to his new game he will develop.
I think it would even work to have some endless game after the offical ending with constant smaller updates every 3 or 6 months (new leds scenes for example for every route)
 

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In v9, I am having problems with the 'Love triangle' quest. I did all other quests, including the anal with Ralph, but after that I dont see the Love triangle option in the dates with Ralph... what am I missing ?

In the walkthrough it is said: this option becomes available when you unlock all of the scenes with Ralph and complete or fail all of Betty’s quests, but I dont have anything else unchecked in the events tab... how can I check if all Betty's quests were done, for example ?

Can any one help please?
 

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Why do we need a canonical ending at all? This is only necessary if you plan an successor.
I think episode 4 as a conclusion for all paths would be the best. The farm is way to specific for many players and i really doubt, that most patreons would like that.
I think every player of the game has it´s favourite path and some content they don´t like that much. In my case I´m not a big fan of the Julia and the House path (it´s not the same without the brat Bardie), but there are surely players out there, who love the routes.
I see it that way:
1. Episode: Monica loses everything. From riches to rags
2. Episode: Monica explores her new life and make new friends and enemies
3. Episode: Crossroads, the paths go deeper, Monica comes more and more to term with them and at the end she finally has to decide, which route she will follow (some maybe combinable, some will exclude each other)
4. Episode: All paths come to an end and define Monicas future life. (Farm included)

Maybe after Episode 4 DM could still support this game as a little sideproject to his new game he will develop.
I think it would even work to have some endless game after the offical ending with constant smaller updates every 3 or 6 months (new leds scenes for example for every route)
Episodes 2 and 3 are in structure only one episode that was split. If the current episode 3 ends as a proper episode then I would expect there to be one ending that continues into episode 4. I don't believe we will have multiple paths open going into a new episode.

I remember reading an answer from Decent Monkey a few years back to a question asking him how long or how many episodes he planed for the game. His answer was he planned 3 episodes, and added that the start of episode 3 would be a different setting. This was during the early stages of episode 2 and before the split. So if he keeps to this plan ep 4 should start in some new location.

I also would think that an episode 4 that doesn't need to carry over a heap of repeatable scenes because most of the ep3 events are still open would be easier for the developer and help keep the data size down.

Agreed that the whole home path as well as Betty became redundant after Bardie was removed.
 

metzner

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Episodes 2 and 3 are in structure only one episode that was split. If the current episode 3 ends as a proper episode then I would expect there to be one ending that continues into episode 4. I don't believe we will have multiple paths open going into a new episode.

I remember reading an answer from Decent Monkey a few years back to a question asking him how long or how many episodes he planed for the game. His answer was he planned 3 episodes, and added that the start of episode 3 would be a different setting. This was during the early stages of episode 2 and before the split. So if he keeps to this plan ep 4 should start in some new location.

I also would think that an episode 4 that doesn't need to carry over a heap of repeatable scenes because most of the ep3 events are still open would be easier for the developer and help keep the data size down.

Agreed that the whole home path as well as Betty became redundant after Bardie was removed.
As we see with the split of Episode 2 plans can change fast. As I said before a farm Episode 4 would be way to specific.
Maybe the farm as last Episode was DMs plan in the beginning, but I´m not so sure if this is still the case. We had so many changes: Bardie gone, Steve Office Route abandoned (and this was in the beginning the second way to earn the 5000 Bucks for Victoria, so a very important route), Julia added and so on and so on...

We also have to take the business side into consideration. DM is a very successful creator on patreon and I´m pretty sure he wants to keep it that way. And integrating more paths into the last Episode is good for business. Thats the way it is.
As said before, one day FB will end, not today and not tomorrow, but it will come to an end.
With the idea of constant irregular updates of the different endings all would be pleased.
DM could focus on a new project and still benefitting to some degree from the FB fans.
The ones, who want a complete game with a ending would be satisfied and the ones, who can´t get enough of Monica could enjoy optional lewd scenes from time to time.

But in the end it´s all DM decision. So far he did a good job with his game, so I´m very confident, that he makes the right choices and whats best for his game.
 
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