Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.5 v2.01 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[Stan5851]

I don`t think too that Biff know smth more about Farm e.t.c. He`s just ugly bastard.

I'll refrain from self quoting and spoilers though, especially since you've probably seen all my posts. So, let's start at the beginning, avoiding unnecessary revealing of details from Ep3 and reasoning logically.

1. Monica is the sole owner of a multi-million dollar business that includes several organizations, including a magazine and the company of her subordinate Steve, who, if memory serves me correctly, managed the investments and financial assets of Monica's company. Monica's husband was criminally prosecuted by the state (it remains unclear in this case whether such prosecution took place, and if so, what became of the husband), one way or another, but it happened. All of the husband's debts were legally transferred to Monica. This practice exists in the laws of many countries. What's next? Next, the bailiffs (or similar organization) must collect these debts from Monica for the benefit of the state (or other affected person, if any). If Monica does not have enough money to cover the debts, she should either declare bankruptcy or try to negotiate with the authorities. Say, refinance the debt or defer its payment. If Monica declares bankruptcy, the judicial authorities can forcibly appoint a interim manager to the bankrupt company. His or her duties include the following

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[Ostego]

I'll refrain from self quoting and spoilers though, especially since you've probably seen all my posts. So, let's start at the beginning, avoiding unnecessary revealing of details from Ep3 and reasoning logically.

1. Monica is the sole owner of a multi-million dollar business that includes several organizations, including a magazine and the company of her subordinate Steve, who, if memory serves me correctly, managed the investments and financial assets of Monica's company. Monica's husband was criminally prosecuted by the state (it remains unclear in this case whether such prosecution took place, and if so, what became of the husband), one way or another, but it happened. All of the husband's debts were legally transferred to Monica. This practice exists in the laws of many countries. What's next? Next, the bailiffs (or similar organization) must collect these debts from Monica for the benefit of the state (or other affected person, if any). If Monica does not have enough money to cover the debts, she should either declare bankruptcy or try to negotiate with the authorities. Say, refinance the debt or defer its payment. If Monica declares bankruptcy, the judicial authorities can forcibly appoint a temporary receiver to the bankrupt company. His or her duties include the following

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So what do we have in our game. Unknown people (I'm guessing who these people are), who are not official auditors or judicial authorities, illegally put an interim manager (I'll call him that, even though he's just a brazen scumbag and buffoon) into Monica's company, appointing him director of the magazine. And his name is Biff. Does he represent the state? Definitely not. Does he set the goals that should be set for such an executive? Also no. In what happened to Monica, I see a global conspiracy of elites, including some people who are related to the "higher echelons" of power. Because Monica's documents, all civil rights, all real estate, all financial and other assets were taken away from her (illegally and without a court order), and an insolent scumbag with a nasty smile, who has nothing to do with the judiciary or other authorities, was put in her place.

What is such a situation called? I answer - raider seizure, i.e. violent seizure of an enterprise/commercial organization, etc.. I.e., in essence, it is pure banditry. You don't even need spoilers from episode 3 to realize that there is a global conspiracy going on here and Biff is involved. As for the Farm, as with any mechanism, there are little cogs that are just doing their job and Biff is probably just such a cog. I can concede that Biff knows nothing about the Farm/Elites, But I don't believe Biff has no idea who hired him for the position.

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[vimmers]

Eurrr... Could you please put in a little spoiler talking about the events after episode 2?
We would like to find out for ourselves what will happen

he/she didn't talked about what there are ingame but he/she wish some prostitution

 

[Stan5851]

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[♂Brout&Minou♀]

he/she didn't talked about what there are ingame but he/she wish some prostitution

Okay, I thought he/she was talking about a possible sequel to a lewd event that occurring in the gym.
Anyway, you know what they say. Better to be safe than sorry

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

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It seems that I have brought up or rekindled a controversy addressing the favorite subjects of conspiracy theorists

 

[Stan5851]

It seems that I have brought up or rekindled a controversy addressing the favorite subjects of conspiracy theorists

Discussion of such topics is not that rare, so it's the norm for us. How many copies have been broken in this thread - from discussion of possible endings and heated arguments about Monica's asexuality to all sorts of conspiracy theories and other speculations about the game's plot - can't be counted. And many regular visitors and active players participate in all this. So we have a lot of fun here sometimes.

That's how many posts Ostego and I have written in the f95 private chat that are probably 80% dedicated to discussing the Fashion Business.

And as long as those posts remain in that private place, this thread is perfectly safe.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Hell! NO! I knew it would get out of hand. I just went to Melanie's to finish trapping Victoria, but as soon as Monica arrived, who showed up? Not only is the photographer Alex, but he's also accompanied by that little freak Victoria?
AAAAAAAAAHH!!! I will die...

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Discussion of such topics is not that rare, so it's the norm for us. How many copies have been broken in this thread - from discussion of possible endings and heated arguments about Monica's asexuality to all sorts of conspiracy theories and other speculations about the game's plot - can't be counted. And many regular visitors and active players participate in all this. So we have a lot of fun here sometimes.

That's how many posts Ostego and I have written in the f95 private chat that are probably 80% dedicated to discussing the Fashion Business.
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And as long as those posts remain in that private place, this thread is perfectly safe.

Haha yeah! these kinds of discussions can get a little wild sometime

 

[Stan5851]

Hell! NO! I knew it would get out of hand. I just went to Melanie's to finish trapping Victoria, but as soon as Monica arrived, who showed up? Not only is the photographer Alex, but he's also accompanied by that little freak Victoria?
AAAAAAAAAHH!!! I will die...

Our elite Victoria's haters Club is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. New members are accepted with no initiation fees. You're accepted, welcome to the family.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Our elite Victoria's haters Club is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. New members are accepted with no initiation fees. You're accepted, welcome to the family.

And I... What I say, we joyfully accept the invitation

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

And I think if it doesn't already exist, I'll start a new Alex haters club. Being a photographer myself, this guy reminds me of some stinky colleagues in the profession. Guys who are so often with their tongues stuck in other people's asses, that I no longer hear them talking, but farting

 

[EraRamp]

On the new animations v the old ones. I think with the pros and cons weighed up, I prefer the old animation method. It just gave the player more interactivity and control over the length of each angle. You could watch a angle or shot that was pleasing for as long as you wanted, when clicking to continue and a close up of Steve's arse was the next angle of an animation you could move on in a second. Where now you have to wait for the animation angle to play out before the game moves on for you.

I think though that the new animations are well done and ep3s posing and set up are an all round improvement from ep2. It's not night and day better but is noticeable. I do like how Decent Monkey directs the animations now. We get actions being speed up or slowed down between and during angles and the sound effects are well integrated with the action on screen.

All that being said I still would prefer too have more control as a player during the scenes. I don't agree with you Ostego that the new system is hiding a reduction to the animation count. The old system he counted every angle change in an animation as separate. Now all the angle changes are merged into one longer animation with the camera moving on screen too be placed for the different angles. There are just as many different angles shown for each animation as there were with the old method they are just not counted separately anymore.

Ostego your English is fine and easily readable. Well at least when you put some effort in a post.

I agree with you. The DM is evolving. Every episode is new visuals. But also in terms of text there is also evolution, like in life

 

[agn25]

I'll refrain from self quoting and spoilers though, especially since you've probably seen all my posts. So, let's start at the beginning, avoiding unnecessary revealing of details from Ep3 and reasoning logically.

1. Monica is the sole owner of a multi-million dollar business that includes several organizations, including a magazine and the company of her subordinate Steve, who, if memory serves me correctly, managed the investments and financial assets of Monica's company. Monica's husband was criminally prosecuted by the state (it remains unclear in this case whether such prosecution took place, and if so, what became of the husband), one way or another, but it happened. All of the husband's debts were legally transferred to Monica. This practice exists in the laws of many countries. What's next? Next, the bailiffs (or similar organization) must collect these debts from Monica for the benefit of the state (or other affected person, if any). If Monica does not have enough money to cover the debts, she should either declare bankruptcy or try to negotiate with the authorities. Say, refinance the debt or defer its payment. If Monica declares bankruptcy, the judicial authorities can forcibly appoint a interim manager to the bankrupt company. His or her duties include the following

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So what do we have in our game.

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I think in the end it will be pretty simple as to what has happened and why to poor Monica. It all started as the revenge quest explains it.

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[EraRamp]

I think in the end it will be pretty simple as to what has happened and why to poor Monica. It all started as the revenge quest explains it.

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It's like the plot of the movie Saw. Although...

 

[Stan5851]

I think in the end it will be pretty simple as to what has happened and why to poor Monica. It all started as the revenge quest explains it.

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[Captain Bipto]

I'll refrain from self quoting and spoilers though, especially since you've probably seen all my posts. So, let's start at the beginning, avoiding unnecessary revealing of details from Ep3 and reasoning logically.

1. Monica is the sole owner of a multi-million dollar business that includes several organizations, including a magazine and the company of her subordinate Steve, who, if memory serves me correctly, managed the investments and financial assets of Monica's company. Monica's husband was criminally prosecuted by the state (it remains unclear in this case whether such prosecution took place, and if so, what became of the husband), one way or another, but it happened. All of the husband's debts were legally transferred to Monica. This practice exists in the laws of many countries. What's next? Next, the bailiffs (or similar organization) must collect these debts from Monica for the benefit of the state (or other affected person, if any). If Monica does not have enough money to cover the debts, she should either declare bankruptcy or try to negotiate with the authorities. Say, refinance the debt or defer its payment. If Monica declares bankruptcy, the judicial authorities can forcibly appoint a interim manager to the bankrupt company. His or her duties include the following

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So what do we have in our game.

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HOLY $#!*... Why is the Russian translation twice as long, it must take forever to get directions over there

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Given the number of spoilers, I would say that the conspiracy circle has been talking a lot recently. On our side, each time we progress in the plot, we think we have a better overall picture of what is going on, but the next step, we have more doubts which call into question our certainties. Who did Monica meet, and upset in ep 1, the day everything went wrong for her? Perhaps this reasoning doesn't hold water, because it's Steeve who reveals this to her in the path of revenge, this path is not canonical, I have been told.
When we look at the whole picture, we try to reason logically by observing the clues and cross-referencing them. It feels like playing a board game like Cluedo (For those who don't know, it's a game in which players must discover among themselves who is the murderer of a crime committed in a mansion) My partner and I look at each other wondering: But who killed Colonel Mustard???
Anyway... When we look and put things into perspective, we wonder what role does each of the antagonists have in this game of power and humiliation, and what places do they occupy in this organization? At the top of the pyramid, there is this mysterious criminal organization which seems to target rich, influential women who are also very bitchy to those around them, by kidnapping them and making them disappear making them illegitimate, and which is supervised by Marcus, at least, outside the walls of farm 218. But the others??? Apart from perhaps the secretary (tits), and still, we expect to discover that she also has a role in this whole circus, everyone, from that big asshole Biff to the drunkest slum dweller, wants to see our bitchy heroine crawling on her knees. Philipp seems high in the hierarchy. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was one of the instigators of Monica's downward spiral, just below Marcus. Biff and Steve seem more like pawns in the tabloid. Dick! Dick? I don't really know. He may not be part of the conspiracy. But still, perhaps he's there so that Monica can continue to fight and keep the hope of getting out, a bit like a piece of cheese for the mouse, while the cat observes the mouse with an amused look. Many are secondary pawns I think, like Fred, Julia, Alex, the two bastard bosses of the "Shiny Hole", the pimp bitch from the restaurant "Le Grand" etc...
There's one that we can't quite place on the board. Victoria! This sadistic and completely crazy bitch. She probably doesn't have the light on every floor, but if she's a pawn, she's like the armed arm for someone else, wreaking vengeance with hatred on their behalf. She is a kind of Doctor Josef Mengele...
ARG! Now I'm like Bob. My head hurts

 

[Fungamer80]

I have no idea how to continue in the home and office events in episode 3.
open in the office events:
1. philip the investor
2. steve the investor
3. friendly tea
4. sex with daddy

open in the house events:
1. maid that can't say no

In the gallery is only a little more than half unlocked and in the home events nothing yet.
I can no longer give biff reports and I can no longer go to the gym with betty, accordingly I can no longer interact with ralph.
Guys, I really don't know what to do and I honestly don't want to start again.

 

[Ostego]

Given the number of spoilers, I would say that the conspiracy circle has been talking a lot recently. On our side, each time we progress in the plot, we think we have a better overall picture of what is going on, but the next step, we have more doubts which call into question our certainties. Who did Monica meet, and upset in ep 1, the day everything went wrong for her? Perhaps this reasoning doesn't hold water, because it's Steeve who reveals this to her in the path of revenge, this path is not canonical, I have been told.
When we look at the whole picture, we try to reason logically by observing the clues and cross-referencing them. It feels like playing a board game like Cluedo (For those who don't know, it's a game in which players must discover among themselves who is the murderer of a crime committed in a mansion) My partner and I look at each other wondering: But who killed Colonel Mustard???
Anyway... When we look and put things into perspective, we wonder what role does each of the antagonists have in this game of power and humiliation, and what places do they occupy in this organization? At the top of the pyramid, there is this mysterious criminal organization which seems to target rich, influential women who are also very bitchy to those around them, by kidnapping them and making them disappear making them illegitimate, and which is supervised by Marcus, at least, outside the walls of farm 218. But the others??? Apart from perhaps the secretary (tits), and still, we expect to discover that she also has a role in this whole circus, everyone, from that big asshole Biff to the drunkest slum dweller, wants to see our bitchy heroine crawling on her knees. Philipp seems high in the hierarchy. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was one of the instigators of Monica's downward spiral, just below Marcus. Biff and Steve seem more like pawns in the tabloid. Dick! Dick? I don't really know. He may not be part of the conspiracy. But still, perhaps he's there so that Monica can continue to fight and keep the hope of getting out, a bit like a piece of cheese for the mouse, while the cat observes the mouse with an amused look. Many are secondary pawns I think, like Fred, Julia, Alex, the two bastard bosses of the "Shiny Hole", the pimp bitch from the restaurant "Le Grand" etc...
There's one that we can't quite place on the board. Victoria! This sadistic and completely crazy bitch. She probably doesn't have the light on every floor, but if she's a pawn, she's like the armed arm for someone else, wreaking vengeance with hatred on their behalf. She is a kind of Doctor Josef Mengele...
ARG! Now I'm like Bob. My head hurts

after ep.3 you`ll get answers for 80% questions in your post)