Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.5 v2.01 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[Cazzo_duro]

The whining about piracy from developers making thousands of dollars a month is so sad and pathetic.
But even more insufferable is their manipulative tactic of portraying themselves as poor victims of "evil supporters" (just the concept itself is ridiculous because it's an oxymoron), who rob them of their meager earnings (which are actually huge).

So, instead of being grateful to all their supporters, including those who share their product, these developers spit in their face, ignoring the fact that

1) those who share are usually the most longstanding and paying customers
2) all analytics show that piracy is a free and very effective boost for the popularity of a product and actually makes its "victims" earn more money in the long run.

However, this kind of developers does not understand these simple facts because they are not driven by passion or dreams but only by short-sighted greed.

 

[3nterprise]

Most creators have 0% business awareness and then cry demagoguery here. All you have to do is hire a business consultant.

 

[Ostego]

Guys, are you realy thinking that keeping ~1500-1600 supporters for last year is a good sign? with 3 great updates (v14->v16).
I'm going to bring a ton of shit on myself right now, but the DM doesn't think about money the way you think about it (why I think so, I won't take it out on general excitement). I agree with him that it's more of a hobby or an inspiration.

 

[3nterprise]

I would ask supporters who sharing my work to leave me and forget about my game.
And you can keep the rest of your opinions to yourself.

Wake up and look around to realize where you are.

 

[Stan5851]

Wake up and look around to realize where you are.

Wake up, Neo. You obosralsya.

 

[Stan5851]

Guys, are you realy thinking that keeping ~1500-1600 supporters for last year is a good sign? with 3 great updates (v14->v16).
I'm going to bring a ton of shit on myself right now, but the DM doesn't think about money the way you think about it (why I think so, I won't take it out on general excitement). I agree with him that it's more of a hobby or an inspiration.

I agree 100% I remember the old days when DM had about 2,000 subscribers at the peak and I think the crisis is not over yet. You can call it whatever you want - world turbulence, global crisis, the aftermath of the start of Special Warfare (SWO), but the fact remains that the last three updates have been very good and 1600 is not the number of subscribers our game deserve.

 

[3nterprise]

Wake up, Neo. You obosralsya.

This is a pirate forum, you're out too, probably from the way your legs are rubbing against his ass.

 

[Stan5851]

This is a pirate forum, you're out too, probably from the way your legs are rubbing against his ass.

It is not for you to decide what others should do. All users have equal rights here. So fuck you. I added you to my ignore list.

 

[Mfka5]

I dont get this tho
Dev said the paycheck mainly goes to dev team, barely anything goes to him
So why does he care so much about the piracy, didnt he say its his hobby. So why dont you wanna share your hobby to more people, including this site. You seem to be doing fine with the game, i dont think he'll run out of money anytime soon.
Theres generous people out here as well, people who stay here either cant afford it or feel like its not worth it or have their own private reasons

 

[Paco15]

This is the similar situation like this of EP 2 on steam version everybody payed and waiting for episod 3

 

[Stan5851]

DecentMonkey , please tell me if we can hope for an appearance of the Farm in episode 4 (at least in its acceptable Patreon form)? Or will it only be like one of the 8 endings of the whole game? Yeah, I know the chance of getting an answer to this sacred question is slim to none, but why not ask?

 

[agn25]

If you were in my place, your romantic idea of life would be shattered by grateful connoisseurs of beauty. Who would speak of you as a lazy developer who made only 2500 pictures in a couple of months, that the game is shit, crap and so on

No one with a brain would accuse you of being lazy. I hope you can push though any motivational issues and end this story in a satisfactory way. If you succeed in that you would have much to be proud of.

 

[Stan5851]

If you were in my place, your romantic idea of life would be shattered by grateful connoisseurs of beauty. Who would speak of you as a lazy developer who made only 2500 pictures in a couple of months, that the game is shit, crap and so on

Speaking of the team. I watched the end credits and I was curious to know what contribution these people (under the "GFX" label) make to the creation of Fashion Business.

We're not spoiled with developer diaries, so any information about what goes on behind the scenes I think would be of interest to all fans of the game.

 

[Sabertooth__]

If you were in my place, your romantic idea of life would be shattered by grateful connoisseurs of beauty. Who would speak of you as a lazy developer who made only 2500 pictures in a couple of months, that the game is shit, crap and so on

Okay now this is just unfair to you. I don't know a dev on the platform who does more renders that you in the year. So complaining about 2500 renders in a couple of months. Those people really losing it. 90% devs can't even manage 2500 in a year.

Lastly to the people here. Just a thought. Knowing that the game is entering the final episode. Why not just respect the dev's wish and not release the extra version immediately after release. Now don't come after me. This is just a suggestion.

 

[Иван1980]

Good morning friends! Who has the activation file for version 16 extra?

 

[3nterprise]

It is not for you to decide what others should do. All users have equal rights here. So fuck you. I added you to my ignore list.

You are exactly one of the fucked up ones hypocritical moralists, who scream "It is not for you to decide what others should do. All users have equal rights here" and at the same time you deny it to others. And about the ignoring, somehow I hear it from you a lot here, and not only this speaks of your ego.

 

[Alea iacta est]

I find all those conversation about Dev, patrons really pathetic.
As male group.. just enjoy the wank that this game provide with the understanding that his game is a gem, and there is no other game out there similar to this.

What Dev (bless him) does or what his supporters do, it is not really up to judgement from this audience.
I wish the Dev to become rich with this game because at least this dude show some tangible and measurable talent in his life.

Enjoy the game, wank and happily suck DecentMonkey dick.. because he deservers his dick to be sucked.

 

[SixInchesAnon]

With all due respect, any Patreon is doing charity work. This game ain't worth paying that much per month. Treasure of Nadia sells their game for 15$ on steam, and if we are being honest, the production quality is much higher. If devs don't want to sell their game for a reasonable price and suck their Patrons dry then fine, but don't go complaining about piracy. Don't act like a victim lol. I also understand that a game needs development funding initially but once they are finished they can sell it for a reasonable price. But the fact is that the Patreon model encourages bad behavior. Like Star Citizen which is still in development after a decade. For example, AWAM's dev is just a scammer with how long he takes. They have no reason to finish the game as it is more profitable to take Patreon/donors money. I prefer an early access model, sell the incomplete game as early access. Once it's finished you can up the price.

 

[Ostego]

With all due respect, any Patreon is doing charity work. This game ain't worth paying that much per month. Treasure of Nadia sells their game for 15$ on steam, and if we are being honest, the production quality is much higher. If devs don't want to sell their game for a reasonable price and suck their Patrons dry then fine, but don't go complaining about piracy. Don't act like a victim lol. I also understand that a game needs development funding initially but once they are finished they can sell it for a reasonable price. But the fact is that the Patreon model encourages bad behavior. Like Star Citizen which is still in development after a decade. For example, AWAM's dev is just a scammer with how long he takes. They have no reason to finish the game as it is more profitable to take Patreon/donors money. I prefer an early access model, sell the incomplete game as early access. Once it's finished you can up the price.

Don`t you know that FB was in steam and get ban?

 

[watermankaku]

I'm just curious, who came up with this wonderful idea of 720p?