Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.5 v2.01 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[Deleted member 3586865]

We return to - I`m not Monica i`m her twin. And it works in game)

I can only say how it works for me which is not working for me.
There are so many unanswered question then.
But, i have to replay it again with the additional content that i have missed. My memory doesn't capture everything i played anymore.
The main game is more or less, that she despises everything that is against her conviction but goes along to advance in whatever form that may be.
In my memory she fell down but not nearly enough as she had an escape route that wouldn't be available for someone in real life.
So she loses her passport, is a fugitive but still manages to be in a somewhat high position. I just never could wrap my head around that.
That said, i like the game though i did not like the clicking and out of my view, cheap excuse "i am her twin"

Well, yes and no. Of course no amount of make-up or another hair color will make a woman look completely different.
But sometimes it's quite difficult to recognize.
Like here
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But it's a porno game. It's not supposed to be completely realistic.

Very true. I just want it to point out that just hair color wouldn't be enough.
Btw. great example. Even though i don't know who it is.

 

[Ostego]

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Guess where is Monica and where it`s not "Monica"



Even more - there is scenes with similar clothes and different Monicas)

 

[Stan5851]

Guess where is Monica and where it`s not "Monica"
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I don't recall where the 2nd render came from (the one on the right). It doesn't really look like the work of fans from FB Fan Art thread, but I don't remember that in the game either.

 

[Ostego]

I don't recall where the 2nd render came from (the one on the right). It doesn't really look like the work of fans from FB Fan Art thread, but I don't remember that in the game either.

Lets pretend it to be photosession in her magazine. And funny moment at this time shes playing role of Monica. So it`s 50/50 for second picture)

For me it`s not the biggest problem of the game. Its a game in the end.

 

[qazxsw80]

Guess where is Monica and where it`s not "Monica"

There seems to be better examples of "before and after.)

 

[Stan5851]

As for IRL realism vs Fashion Business game reality, I suggest you all be honest to the end. Yes, I understand the point of view, which has been written about here many times before - when no one can recognise Monica and everyone believes her to be just a doppelganger. Yes, it may seem strange and unrealistic to some players. But let's look at it from the other side. If you want maximum realism, then the game just can't have what's going on in it. And all the humiliation Monica is going through, in any other country (other than some Somalia), would have long ago ended as soon as Monica would have gone to the prosecutor's office or called 911. So if you want real realism, then just admit that all these events happening to our Monica simply could not have happened in a notional civilised country.

So the idea of "doppelgangers" is quite viable and it fits in well with the rest of the invented game world, which consists pretty much only of hypertrophied assholes and perverts.

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[Yossarian1]

Oh boy... Blonde Monica would be awesome

 

[Deleted member 3586865]

As for IRL realism vs Fashion Business game reality, I suggest you all be honest to the end. Yes, I understand the point of view, which has been written about here many times before - when no one can recognise Monica and everyone believes her to be just a doppelganger. Yes, it may seem strange and unrealistic to some players. But let's look at it from the other side. If you want maximum realism, then the game just can't have what's going on in it. And all the humiliation Monica is going through, in any other country (other than some Somalia), would have long ago ended as soon as Monica would have gone to the prosecutor's office or called 911. So if you want real realism, then just admit that all these events happening to our Monica simply could not have happened in a notional civilised country.

So the idea of "doppelgangers" is quite viable and it fits in well with the rest of the invented game world, which consists pretty much only of hypertrophied assholes and perverts.

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I think that the word "realism" is perhaps not the right word.
It is more the word "Believable".
It is understood that it's a work of fiction. Though reality is more sinister sometimes than a story can be.
So from that point of view i like a little more "believablility".
What i am saying is, that even though most construct maybe not making sense when applied to the real world, in games or VN, they work.
Though her character is made to be very self centered person and so would do certain things, other not. No matter the situation.
We are not playing a documentary but a soap opera. I think the question in my mind is mostly, would i do that if i were the character?
I hope my point isn't too offensive to fan's because this isn't my intent. For one or the other reason i have sometimes a little more of hard time to get into a game.

 

[Stan5851]

I think that the word "realism" is perhaps not the right word.
It is more the word "Believable".
It is understood that it's a work of fiction. Though reality is more sinister sometimes than a story can be.
So from that point of view i like a little more "believablility".
What i am saying is, that even though most construct maybe not making sense when applied to the real world, in games or VN, they work.
Though her character is made to be very self centered person and so would do certain things, other not. No matter the situation.
We are not playing a documentary but a soap opera. I think the question in my mind is mostly, would i do that if i were the character?
I hope my point isn't too offensive to fan's because this isn't my intent. For one or the other reason i have sometimes a little more of hard time to get into a game.

Well, there are inconsistencies in the game that are hard to explain.For example, it's completely illogical for Monica to prostitute herself in the Slums for a measly 10-20 dollars. Yes, it's optional, but still. Monica could very well make pretty good money without touching this slum and its inhabitants at all. However, the developer's game concept was to give players multiple paths to develop their own Monica, with each such path one day having to lead the conditional player's Monica to a certain ending of the game. At least, that was the intention of the state for 2019.

As for immersion, that's a pretty broad concept, but if by that you mean being immersive and trying to play out Monica's role, then in my opinion, Fashion Business is 100% not a game worth immersing yourself in that way. The detached position of bystander/spectator in this case will offer more benefits and save the body point we're sitting on from burning out.

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[Enfrize]

All those physical changes are kind of against Monica's character, maybe except the hair color. I mean she perceives herself perfect and so she doesn't need any "upgrades". She is "the most beautiful woman in the city" after all. More than that other characters seem to agree with her.

I wasn't talking about Monica upgrading herself on her own, I was talking about other characters forcing those upgrades on her in some routes. Of course she won't turn herself into a bimbo willingly on her own but I thought this game is about corruption and others taking advantage of your downfall and such extreme makeover could actually work for some of the most extreme routes.

 

[FansaReader]

What am I doing wrong, if I try to load a save game in EP3-v13-Extra-pc or EP3-v14-Extra-pc and get the HELP question "where did part 1 end" with the choice "Main Plot or Revenge path". What "part 1" is meant?
I just want to pick up where I left off last time (save game from some months ago).
Could someone please point to a FAQ entry or instructions, what I have to do to continue?

 

[Stan5851]

I thought this game is about corruption and others taking advantage of your downfall and such extreme makeover could actually work for some of the most extreme routes.

The focus of the game is not on corruption, but on humiliating Monica and forcing her into various sexual acts through blackmail. Corruption implies that the MC must become increasingly depraved or perverted, starting to love the whole process. But this scheme doesn't work in Fashion Business. Monica doesn't like sex (by default) and all the things we can call kinky she only does because she's being blackmailed and because she has no choice.

This is one of the aspects that sets our game apart from the legion of slut-simulators, where heroines become extremely depraved and start enjoying it.

 

[vimmers]

What am I doing wrong, if I try to load a save game in EP3-v13-Extra-pc or EP3-v14-Extra-pc and get the HELP question "where did part 1 end" with the choice "Main Plot or Revenge path". What "part 1" is meant?
I just want to pick up where I left off last time (save game from some months ago).
Could someone please point to a FAQ entry or instructions, what I have to do to continue?

i think you have played the 720 version
when loading a save try to migrate it
you see migrate when you are in loading screen
part 1 means episode 1

 

[Deleted member 3586865]

Well, there are inconsistencies in the game that are hard to explain.For example, it's completely illogical for Monica to prostitute herself in the Slums for a measly 10-20 dollars. Yes, it's optional, but still. Monica could very well make pretty good money without touching this slum and its inhabitants at all. However, the developer's game concept was to give players multiple paths to develop their own Monica, with each such path one day having to lead the conditional player's Monica to a certain ending of the game. At least, that was the intention of the state for 2019.

As for immersion, that's a pretty broad concept, but if by that you mean being immersive and trying to play out Monica's role, then in my opinion, Fashion Business is 100% not a game worth immersing yourself in that way. The detached position of bystander/spectator in this case will offer more benefits and save the body point we're sitting on from burning out.

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That's interesting.
I wonder, at the time i played there was no prostitution path in the slums. It only got so far in pole dancing with the optional (i think it was) bj.
So can you play the low life without being high on life? Like i said, at the time when i played there wasn't the option but if i remember correctly there was some addon with S3. Though i am not sure about it.

 

[Deleted member 3586865]

I wasn't talking about Monica upgrading herself on her own, I was talking about other characters forcing those upgrades on her in some routes. Of course she won't turn herself into a bimbo willingly on her own but I thought this game is about corruption and others taking advantage of your downfall and such extreme makeover could actually work for some of the most extreme routes.

Since she did not have valid ID it would be plausible.

 

[FansaReader]

when loading a save try to migrate it
you see migrate when you are in loading screen

Yes I see that screen

and I click on it and then I confirm that I want to overwrite my saves. Unfortunately, this "migrate" hint doesn't go away and I still get this question at the start of my saved game "where did part 1 end".
Is this the usual way to proceed with a saved game?

 

[Stan5851]

What am I doing wrong, if I try to load a save game in EP3-v13-Extra-pc or EP3-v14-Extra-pc and get the HELP question "where did part 1 end" with the choice "Main Plot or Revenge path". What "part 1" is meant?
I just want to pick up where I left off last time (save game from some months ago).
Could someone please point to a FAQ entry or instructions, what I have to do to continue?

I don't know exactly how you played the game. If according to the classic scheme (Ep1-->Ep2v16-->Ep3), such polls can only occur when some important content and certain decisions were deliberately omitted by the player. Аnd therefore the game needs to know how your Monica behaved earlier in order to adjust important variables in a certain way that will affect the development of certain elements of the further plot. By "Part one", the game probably means Ep2 v16 (which is now a standalone, but is actually the 1st part of ep2), and Ep3: Crossroads, which you play, is the 2nd part of ep2. You have to answer the questions about what decisions your Monica made in part 1 of ep2 (Ep2 v16) and then you can continue playing the game.

Also try what vimmers recommends and see if that's what's wrong.
https://f95zone.to/threads/fashion-business-ep-3-v14-extra-decentmonkey.11501/post-9687377

 

[omega_rugal]

need tentacles in this game

 

[Stan5851]

That's interesting.
I wonder, at the time i played there was no prostitution path in the slums. It only got so far in pole dancing with the optional (i think it was) bj.
So can you play the low life without being high on life? Like i said, at the time when i played there wasn't the option but if i remember correctly there was some addon with S3. Though i am not sure about it.

So can you play the low life without being high on life?

The main story in the game is the Office route and its included sub-routes. Some side storylines, which include Falling Path (Slums), may depend on Monica's progress in the main Office/Photoshoots storyline. I haven't tried the Falling Path route in isolation from the main storyline and can't say for sure if it will work. But even if it works, depriving yourself of a huge ton of content from the main storyline doesn't make sense (imho).

 

[agn25]

Guys, have a good time!
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