VN Ren'Py Abandoned Fates Collide [v0.4b] [KatanaVN]

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Krytax123

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Yeah i cant take this dev serious anymore. Taking so much time to rework a barely started avn and focusing so much on really neglectable shit like fucking stupid running animations tf

He has lots of talent and potential as a dev but his decision making skills are so ass, he would need a manager lol
 

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New report yay!
At this point I don't even know how to start reports anymore

Anyway, nothing major to share IRL wise, at least that I am willing to share.
But what I can say, it's deep into summer, and still no ant invasion! Seems that the painful and time consuming preparations are paying off, altho still many months where they could re-appear.

And onto the work, well... A bitter mixed bag.
As I said in previous patrons only report, next on the line was the big MC vs. Falazio running section. I've always wanted to make this section much better than it used to be, and I had big plans for it, many voiced a while ago on Discord. To put in simply, I wanted to animate a lot of the parts there.
Obviously, I am not one of the "big guys" in terms of animating, hell I still think I suck ass in that area. But the me at the time of checking script thought that the "future Kat" will know how to do it. I was already quite cautious and was already ready that the next report might not be in 2 weeks (and it wasn't 2 weeks, it's now 4), but it turned out much worse than I thought.
Well, future Kat became present Kat as he reached this area...

I overestimated what I can do in this section.
The script had FIFTEEN animation slots, just in this part alone. I wanted to animate MC running multiple times, slow-mo shots, crowd cheering, drinking, animated Avis vs. Big Titty top pull, commissioning someone for a post-process work etc. I wanted this section to be more impactful than before. But as soon as I even started to work on it, I realized how impossible it is. Running animation suck ass in hs2, even moreso a "sprinting" one that also needs to look good in slow mo. Also cheering crowd? Vanilla animations move so much, they start clipping almost instantly (same why I do no dance ones).

If it sounds like a burden when reading, it is because it was for me. 2-3 days passed of me trying to find how to make even basic animation set up, I hated all of it and it looked dogshit. I knew this section would be difficult, I even said on Discord this is prob the hardest part remaining till rework done, but it wasn't that I climbed it slowly, I couldn't even move. I was mentally blocked.

So after those couple days of failure, I said let's shift focus and work on something else. Each day if I'd wake up and feel too negative about working on the running section, I'd just do something else Fates related. There is lots of things to work, so I did. And that was actually great!
There were quite a few hs2 related plugins/tools I neglected because I needed time to learn them, so now I finally used that time for them. Finally used Blender for something clothes related, and it works pretty good! Then I also tried to check two hs2 plugins that could also help me with the running related animations. One wind related plugin was underwhelming (but I sent a report to the person making it so hoping for future updates), and the other timeline one took a bit to work but seemed handy. Then I moved further into ep3 testing. Went from line 1300 to 4500, found some more missing renders, even made 4? new animations, one which used the Blender thing I mentioned, and I truly think this might be most of the players fav animation of this whole episode . Bugtested everything till where I reached renders, so half point of ep3.
And as great as this was, 2 weeks were gone, and I did literally everything I could work on the side, only thing not done is sound/music for that first half of ep3. Nothing else, I went through it all.
So, once again, I had to face the mental mountain ahead. And again, 2-3 days went by, I did 2 anims, they were absolute dogshit, and once more I was stuck on how to animate a run well.
However, after seeing how miserable I was, and the mental burden making me start to behave overly negative on Discord too, I decided to let go of the ambitious plans for it. Any animation that I deemed overly complex, or in need of taking me days for this section, I scrapped. And oh boy was the feeling good. Finally felt like something lifted over my shoulders.

Is the section as amazing as I hoped it? No. But is it also some fan favorite, especially with 2 dudes running? Also no (sorry to mc/falazio butt fans).
But now it's almost done, I've just reached the part outside where Koko is about to appear in the distance, and one super small, simple animation remains.
We're now at 1 570 renders for Ep3, and 10 animations (2 dogshit ones).
I can't wait to finally finish this damn party completely, I am tired of putting curtains in my room so I can look better at these dark renders without glossy reflection on screen

Oh and I also worked on something Koko hair related, I'll have to think about it some more before I make a decision, maybe in another report this one is already long as is.

See you again in Patrons progress report in 2 weeks ! (Don't jinx it)

Love you all,
Kat <3

I guess we will never fuck Serena and Avis :HideThePain:
 

Mii88

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So is this going to be continued soon or is it just going to be a remake of what we already have?
 

robin312

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Being paid without having to deliver anything made the dev too comfortable, without pressure there are no results, and with each post of his we see comments like "keep it up", disappointing, he is in no rush to finish the remake, he has already deviated so much from the initial plan for the remake, I think he no longer has a plan.
All in all not only about software, but about VNs as well
You should never ever rewrite your VN
 

Meiri

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Why...there was nothing wrong with that path...
I thought one of the main reasons was the one LI which was in involved in drug dealing or something.
He is not being serious, the only character that has changed a bit to be more consistent is Eiko, the rest remains the same from what he has posted.
 
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He has lots of talent and potential as a dev but his decision making skills are so ass, he would need a manager lol
I think this can be said for like 90% of the devs here. I just hope we are not gonna experience another "Stormside".

What I don't understand, he said the update should be done by the end of the year. Let's be optimistic and say it's true. First chapter has been released in August 2021 and chapter 4 in October 2023. That means that the remake took him roughly the same amount of time than the actual game. Either he's gonna release something mindblowing that it looks like a entirely new game or I don't even see the point of this remake, he could have just made an entire different game at this point, so that he could increase his supporters with the chapter releases. I understand being perfectionist, but there should be a limit.
 

reahwea

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He is not being serious, the only character that has changed a bit to be more consistent is Eiko, the rest remains the same from what he has posted.
It won’t be the same


One thing that is hard to discuss (I did open that topic a bit on Discord already) is Serena's scene in ep3. I'm leaning towards removing it, and just having the rooftop be more of a romantic setting. Now this might come as a total shock, but the reasoning (in my eyes, and seems with some of my alpha testers too) is that her having a scene there and being horny conflicts a lot with her behavior now, due to ep1+2 changes. The two of you are actually much closer now, so the whole segment feels off after what she tries to do with you in the room prior to the rooftop. I've accepted the suggestion for now to keep the dialogue/part and see how it flows after testing and feedback from others.

Naturally, if it does end up getting removed, it will be paid off in Ep5, as then it would be guaranteed Serena scene (in contrast, if boobjob stays, I'd prefer not again Serena scene in ep5).

That's all for now, will try to make next report a bit quicker, in roughly 3 weeks and hopefully almost all of ep4 script done by then with some nice new segments and content. And after that, of course, it's rendering till I drop

Love you all,
Kat <3
 
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Meiri

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It won’t be the same
Ah I see, I think I forgot that message, I thought what he was removing was the part where she takes you to the bedroom but not also the part at the rooftop.

Still, if she is more present in EP1+2 due to changes then I guess it makes more sense since he is also saying we will get that in EP5.
 

Raziel_8

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This has taken so long that my expectations are at a level that not even the best HS games reach:KEK:
Here for you :coffee:
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My guess
Maybe a slight improvment, most of which i probably won't even notice, because i don't remember the original scene. Maybe some things i find worse...definitely not worth the time it took.
It wasn't as if the game needed a rework in the first place...
 

Meabe37

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most of which i probably won't even notice, because i don't remember
It wasn't as if the game needed a rework
You don't remember but you do huh? Otherwise you wouldn't know it didn't needed it right? I'm confuse.

Also, it needed it. It will pay off for the game in the long run even if it's a bit annoying now to wait for "old content".
 
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