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Quetzzz

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I see it now as starting a new business: contently thinking about how it is doing and how to make it better. So the obsession is natural and possibly temporary. I think it is different than average people using social media for pleasure in their spare time. So the boyfriend may just have to deal with it for a while and not have to have an intervention later.
That's a fair remark, I think. But she's fairly young, and that she wants a career in the spotlight by having a popular channel is also characterization.
I'm not saying that her behavior is obsessive, but that it's unhealthy concerning her relationship with the MMC. He's supportive, but this can turn around quickly if he gets the idea that he's actually facilitating an addiction.

But, that is just how I interpret it with no idea which is right. They would have to be quite wealthy to review a hotel every week and not end up monitizing it.
Yeah, I had that thought as well. The channel is too small to support those expenses, but I considered that maybe she's only been doing it for a few weeks or months. She could have enough savings to take the leap.
 

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That's a fair remark, I think. But she's fairly young, and that she wants a career in the spotlight by having a popular channel is also characterization.
I'm not saying that her behavior is obsessive, but that it's unhealthy concerning her relationship with the MMC. He's supportive, but this can turn around quickly if he gets the idea that he's actually facilitating an addiction.


Yeah, I had that thought as well. The channel is too small to support those expenses, but I considered that maybe she's only been doing it for a few weeks or months. She could have enough savings to take the leap.
This is probably influenced by my experiences setting up a business (not Internet). It was always in on my mind, and I probably drove my partner crazy talking about it all the time. But eventually it fell into the background enough I could keep most of my thoughts to myself. Lol.
 

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This is probably influenced by my experiences setting up a business (not Internet). It was always in on my mind, and I probably drove my partner crazy talking about it all the time. But eventually it fell into the background enough I could keep most of my thoughts to myself. Lol.
I've been self-employed as well, so I can relate. There certainly is a kind of honeymoon period. And the mouth speaks of what the heart is full of.

But just as this can turn you into a workaholic, I think there is a risk of getting addicted to the constant feedback of gaining that new follower or getting a like. I'd even argue that as her income is dependent on doing well, the risk of addiction to the happy hormones is even worse. It's not just about some random post getting a like but about growing that business. It's a double whammy.

To be clear, I'm not saying she is addicted right now, just that I think she's at increased risk of becoming addicted. And we've already seen that the MMC isn't that happy with her constantly looking at her phone either. So I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a source of conflict.

Also, reading the code, I noticed a comment left by the dev:
Python:
    # She looks at the camera again, whispers to herself
    scene pool53_2 with dissolve
    pause
    scene pool22_3 with dissolve
    pause
    scene pool53_3 with dissolve
    pause 1.0
    fmc "{size=*.75}You’re the best{/size}" # he thinks she said that to him, she actually said that to herself
So I do think there's a certain vanity or attention-seeking going on. Vain people often look for external validation.
 

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I've been self-employed as well, so I can relate. There certainly is a kind of honeymoon period. And the mouth speaks of what the heart is full of.

But just as this can turn you into a workaholic, I think there is a risk of getting addicted to the constant feedback of gaining that new follower or getting a like. I'd even argue that as her income is dependent on doing well, the risk of addiction to the happy hormones is even worse. It's not just about some random post getting a like but about growing that business. It's a double whammy.

To be clear, I'm not saying she is addicted right now, just that I think she's at increased risk of becoming addicted. And we've already seen that the MMC isn't that happy with her constantly looking at her phone either. So I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a source of conflict.

Also, reading the code, I noticed a comment left by the dev:
Python:
    # She looks at the camera again, whispers to herself
    scene pool53_2 with dissolve
    pause
    scene pool22_3 with dissolve
    pause
    scene pool53_3 with dissolve
    pause 1.0
    fmc "{size=*.75}You’re the best{/size}" # he thinks she said that to him, she actually said that to herself
So I do think there's a certain vanity or attention-seeking going on. Vain people often look for external validation.
All fair. Especially the possible double whammy of startup and online validation. Who knows, you might've just influenced the story :).
 
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So I do think there's a certain vanity or attention-seeking going on. Vain people often look for external validation.
People who never got validation in their youth(like from parents) can also be affected by this. Now I wonder if there's some deeper motivation on why she's so intent on having the channel succeed.
 
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Quetzzz

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All fair. Especially the possible double whammy of startup and online validation. Who knows, you might've just influenced the story :).
I hope not! :ROFLMAO:
I suspect, and hope, that the devs have rough drafts of each character and their personalities/struggles, and how the events of the story will impact their arc.

People who never got validation in their youth(like from parents) can also cause this. Now I wonder if there's some deeper motivation on why she's so intense on having the channel succeed.
Good point! I think in that case we might even be talking about histrionic personality disorder (HPD, often confused with narcissism in current-day vernacular).
In an earlier reply I offered that her choice of starting a channel/business like this is characterization in itself.
She'd want the spotlight and attention and perhaps even dreams of getting invited and sponsored to visit exotic locations and travel the world without it costing a dime. I think it stands to reason that if you start a channel, you'd pick a topic that interests you and would allow you to engage with it more. But you wouldn't start any channel if you're not open to a certain level of fame.
 

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Inb4 The ghost Ghosts cuck the dude.
Plot twist: the ghost cucks the lady.

The story is already outlined, which means what's going to happen is already plotted. We're writing it one chapter at a time, but the story plan is already done from start to finish, including how it ends. ;)
I'm very glad you 2 know already where you're going with this. (y) I feel it doesn't just result in better, tighter plots, but helps against the "I'm halfway done and have no idea what to do anymore" stress that leads to abandonment too.
 
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Hi Finuee and Kuviragames .

I discovered you game by the Story First Games thread.
Usually, I prefer lesbian FMC, and I'm not found of multi-protagonist games. But I was curious and give it a try.
And I wasn't disappointed.
I really enjoyed it so far.

I like the story and the relationship between Lukas and Martina.
Martina obsession about her channel is annoying, but in a good way. I mean she has her flaws, it's feel realistic.

The sex scene is great. It's not some soulless fuck. As Saerwen pointed it out, it's good to see a male character performing a cunnilingus. It's show how he cares as much about his partner's pleasure as his own.
It's not porn. It's two people loving each other and making love.
It's such a change from most of the games here.

Martina is cute (even if I'm an old fart who don't like so much unrealistic hair colour :)).
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Also, the main menu and option like the transparency slider show all the work you put in your game.

My only complain, is that the cutescenes in the prologue are a bit too fast.
Even if Finuee explained that we will miss nothing if we can't read all, it's still a bit frustrating.
Especially for none English speaker like myself, as it takes me more time to read in English than in my mother tongue.
But it's not a major thing.

Great work!
And thank you for sharing it with us.
 

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Hi Finuee and Kuviragames .

I discovered you game by the Story First Games thread.
Usually, I prefer lesbian FMC, and I'm not found of multi-protagonist games. But I was curious and give it a try.
And I wasn't disappointed.
I really enjoyed it so far.

I like the story and the relationship between Lukas and Martina.
Martina obsession about her channel is annoying, but in a good way. I mean she has her flaws, it's feel realistic.

The sex scene is great. It's not some soulless fuck. As Saerwen pointed it out, it's good to see a male character performing a cunnilingus. It's show how he cares as much about his partner's pleasure as his own.
It's not porn. It's two people loving each other and making love.
It's such a change from most of the games here.

Martina is cute (even if I'm an old fart who don't like so much unrealistic hair colour :)).
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Also, the main menu and option like the transparency slider show all the work you put in your game.

My only complain, is that the cutescenes in the prologue are a bit too fast.
Even if Finuee explained that we will miss nothing if we can't read all, it's still a bit frustrating.
Especially for none English speaker like myself, as it takes me more time to read in English than in my mother tongue.
But it's not a major thing.

Great work!
And thank you for sharing it with us.
Thanks for giving it a chance! I'm also in love with Martina's expressions. And Lukas' as well. Those are exclusively Kuvira's merit, he did all the renders and blew me away with the facial expressions. Also, yes, it's meant to be more erotica than porn, honestly. :giggle:
 

Saerwen

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Hi Finuee and Kuviragames .

I discovered you game by the Story First Games thread.
Usually, I prefer lesbian FMC, and I'm not found of multi-protagonist games. But I was curious and give it a try.
And I wasn't disappointed.
I really enjoyed it so far.

I like the story and the relationship between Lukas and Martina.
Martina obsession about her channel is annoying, but in a good way. I mean she has her flaws, it's feel realistic.

The sex scene is great. It's not some soulless fuck. As Saerwen pointed it out, it's good to see a male character performing a cunnilingus. It's show how he cares as much about his partner's pleasure as his own.
It's not porn. It's two people loving each other and making love.
It's such a change from most of the games here.

Martina is cute (even if I'm an old fart who don't like so much unrealistic hair colour :)).
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Also, the main menu and option like the transparency slider show all the work you put in your game.

My only complain, is that the cutescenes in the prologue are a bit too fast.
Even if Finuee explained that we will miss nothing if we can't read all, it's still a bit frustrating.
Especially for none English speaker like myself, as it takes me more time to read in English than in my mother tongue.
But it's not a major thing.

Great work!
And thank you for sharing it with us.
I'm glad that people weren't disappointed with my recommendation. I was just excited a little bit much because it's so refreshing to see sex positive game. It's like all we are getting are porn games who treat loving relationship as something disgusting and it has to be ruined.
 

Saerwen

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Thanks for giving it a chance! I'm also in love with Martina's expressions. And Lukas' as well. Those are exclusively Kuvira's merit, he did all the renders and blew me away with the facial expressions. Also, yes, it's meant to be more erotica than porn, honestly. :giggle:
Like I said, wholesome people that can be naughty too. :BootyTime::love:
 

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I'm glad that people weren't disappointed with my recommendation. I was just excited a little bit much because it's so refreshing to see sex positive game. It's like all we are getting are porn games who treat loving relationship as something disgusting and it has to be ruined.
Finuee asked me a few times to create a bunch of extra render/Images and combined with her eagle eye fine tuning the scenes really improved a lot.
 

Saerwen

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Btw, Lucas and Martina could totally go at the zoo for a date... No wait, aqua park to play with pengu. I know how much Kuvi loves penguins. :giggle:
 
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Usually i stay away from multiple protag games but this one seems very good. I really liked the opening despite it being short and ngl I didn't read the front page or anything so I actually got spooked by the ghost. Anyway, looking forward to the next part.

PS. in the dev notes is says "slow releases, as we are both focused on our respective games." I'm definitely going to try Lovephobia next, but does Finue also have their own game?
 

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Usually i stay away from multiple protag games but this one seems very good. I really liked the opening despite it being short and ngl I didn't read the front page or anything so I actually got spooked by the ghost. Anyway, looking forward to the next part.

PS. in the dev notes is says "slow releases, as we are both focused on our respective games." I'm definitely going to try Lovephobia next, but does Finue also have their own game?
We are happy to hear that. It really made me smile reading the spooked by part. :D
Thank you for giving Lovephobia a try. Please keep in mind that I had no time yet to rework the beginning. So you see my first steps of ANV creation and the progress of around one year.

Finues first release is still W.I.P
 

Finuee

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Usually i stay away from multiple protag games but this one seems very good. I really liked the opening despite it being short and ngl I didn't read the front page or anything so I actually got spooked by the ghost. Anyway, looking forward to the next part.

PS. in the dev notes is says "slow releases, as we are both focused on our respective games." I'm definitely going to try Lovephobia next, but does Finue also have their own game?
Kuvira mostly said it all, but I just wanted to also say that I'm glad the ghost spooked you, as that was the intention. Hope you enjoyed that moment. :giggle:
 
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