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Highland_Hunter

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Gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed. This "up-load" is the "Public" version. Where's the Patreon version ?
I've read several times how this is a "pirate" game-site, who, specialize getting the Patreon builds (actually didn't know that, till I read it here recently).

Was really looking forward to this being the Patreon version, for the ability to have/give the character more than one "kink", (yeah, I know you get a second one later),especially since 4 of those 5 "kinks" are my fav fetishes.

I care less about the other Patreon-only item, E-Cup Breasts, availability.
 
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Gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed. This "up-load" is the "Public" version. Where's the Patreon version ?
I've read several times how this is a "pirate" game-site, who, specialize getting the Patreon builds (actually didn't know that, till I read it here recently).

Was really looking forward to this being the Patreon version, for the ability to have/give the character more than one "kink", (yeah, I know you get a second one later),especially since 4 of those 5 "kinks" are my fav fetishes.

I care less about the other Patreon-only item, E-Cup Breasts, availability.
I suppose you can always create a request thread. It's not too difficult, just follow the rules of creating them and you're set. It will take some time, though. Also remember that it's mostly a community of donors, I.e. you have to wait for some of the current patrons to just share the file with local folks, it's not that they're cracking stuff or something
 
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N00bMaster69

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A little recommendation in case you haven't played it; Good Girl Gone Bad has some of that daddy content you're looking for, whether with your BFs dad or your own
Yeah i played that game already, in this game doesnt need to be fully fleshed out, but would really like if the option is there, it was super hot in GGGB in the resturant scene btw
 

Crossett

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Played through the game again for the first time since I last posted about it. The new character models are very nice, and the options for clothing, tattoos and piercings are lovely. Otherwise it still feels like I'm playing the same thing as before.

Frankly, I'd be shocked if this is ever completed, considering how much you're trying to get done before even getting to the "main" part of the game, but I'd love to be proven wrong. Just gives me deja vu thinking about other overly ambitious games that ended up just petering out into nothing and stopping half done. For what its worth, I'm excited to see what Bangkok turns out like, but I won't be waiting around for it.
 

nashorn95z

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Good game. Are you working alone? Its only a html game but can we expect more art like poses?
Will the main game have some simulation aspects with day circles and items, stamina, money or body attributes?
 
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PilotLara

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Good game. Are you working alone? Its only a html game but can we expect more art like poses?
Will the main game have some simulation aspects with day circles and items, stamina, money or body attributes?
Hi nashorn95z ! I am not the creator, he is busy making the next update, but I can confirm a few things for you. No, he is not working alone. In the next update, you will be able to see the team members. The avatar will have different poses like hands tied behind her back, covering herself up, hands tied above her head, etc but they all make use of the standing avatar. Other positions might be possible but we will have to see how much art would need to be drawn for them. Crushstation wrote his vision for Bangkok but quite some time has passed so we might change some things but in general, I would say ...yes?
 

qazxsw80

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Crushstation wrote his vision for Bangkok
Well,
Eventually, Bangkok will contain limitless possibilities and surprises for you to enjoy.
May 17, 2018 at 12:16pm
Sure, eventually.)) I wonder how many people are developing the game. Eva Kiss working alone has written at least ten times the amount of text and drawn a few hundreds of pictures to boot for about the same period of time.)
 
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nashorn95z

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Sure, eventually.)) I wonder how many people are developing the game. Eva Kiss working alone has written at least ten times the amount of text and drawn a few hundreds of pictures to boot for about the same period of time.)
Eva Kiss created just a Visual novel with some simulation mechanics. The Female Agent game has a customizable character and they planing some procedurally generated illustrations. I hope the new generating-system for sex scenes creates some nice illustrations. The ability of this system would be an important aspect of the game.

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Thanks for the reply. What frameworks do you use for the game? I never created a game as a web applications but it sounds fun. Atleast i dont have to learn how to code with a game engine.
 
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Thanks for the reply. What frameworks do you use for the game? I never created a game as a web applications but it sounds fun. Atleast i dont have to learn how to code with a game engine.
We use with the story format!
 

qazxsw80

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Eva Kiss created just a Visual novel with some simulation mechanics. The Female Agent game has a customizable character and they planing some procedurally generated illustrations. I hope the new generating-system for sex scenes creates some nice illustrations. The ability of this system would be an important aspect of the game.
The problem is that fancy "generating-system" does not exist. After years of the development. Right now it is just a demo with about 10 full pages of text and an avatar of a girl that a child can draw (literally).
And the developers get 6000 dollars a month for that on patreon. They've been creating this game for at least 2 years. Conservatively counting, it is more than 70 000 dollars totally. And this is the money that could have been given to good, hard-working developers regularly providing high-quality content. A very sad story.
 
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The problem is that fancy "generating-system" does not exist. After years of the development. Right now it is just a demo with about 10 full pages of text and an avatar of a girl that a child can draw (literally).
And the developers get 6000 dollars a month for that on patreon. They've been creating this game for at least 2 years. Conservatively counting, it is more than 70 000 dollars totally. And this is the money that could have been given to good, hard-working developers regularly providing high-quality content. A very sad story.
Graphtreon tells it's way less than 70k over two years. 50 at best. You may check the exact figures by yourself - unlike at least half of other devs, he doesn't hide his income.
The dev "team" is a relatively novel concept, as far as I'm aware. There's hardly anyone working on this game full-time except Crushstation himself, and probably the artist, and he still has a job. Doesn't grant him any favours in the finance department, but he isn't coaxing anyone into paying, after all, which is the magic of Patreon.
v1.3.6 was mostly a one-man team effort, funded appropriately, developed for the first year. v1.4 and v1.5 were developed for the second year. Your mileage may vary about whether this is the amount of job which is expected to be done in such amount of time with resources at hand.
10 pages of text? Of A0 format - probably. Maybe double-sided. Maybe also of small font. If you have played through it twice and thought you've read everything through, you're wrong, so please revisit your Maths 101. Or try counting all the text in the game - the code is an .html file after all, this shouldn't be too hard for such an expert.
Speaking of art quality - please find such a child in order to support your claims, I'm sure he/she could be paid waaaaay less than current artist since she's such a prodigy, not to mention he/she'll be employed by Crush immediately. Also go fuck yourself if you find such direct disrespect to someone's work appropriate, especially when comparing it to people tinkering with pirated DAZ 3D models without any semblance of artistic skills. Then again, their products get way less attention and support, so it's all fair.
In conclusion: people are voting with their dollars, and currently Crush and the aforementioned Eva Kiss (for example) have comparable amount of voters behind them, circa 2200 vs circa 2000 respectively, though GGGB probably generates more money due to different patreon tiers. Whether they're being cheated or getting a fair deal for their money is completely up to them. The only sad story here is your compilation of "arguments", which are full of shit of varying quality. Go find another thread if you wish to accuse someone of milking or complain about stupid people paying moneys for a pile of BS out of their own volition. I heard Slonique games a good start, though with enough effort everything goes.
Edit: curiosity got the best of me, so I actually counted the money. No data before January 2018, but given that January 2018 netted him $300, I can safely declare the money before it negligible. It's $60k plus something. So inbetween our estimates.
 
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Eva Kiss working alone has written at least ten times the amount of text and drawn a few hundreds of pictures to boot for about the same period of time.)
The problem is that fancy "generating-system" does not exist. After years of the development. Right now it is just a demo with about 10 full pages of text and an avatar of a girl that a child can draw (literally).
And the developers get 6000 dollars a month for that on patreon. They've been creating this game for at least 2 years. Conservatively counting, it is more than 70 000 dollars totally. And this is the money that could have been given to good, hard-working developers regularly providing high-quality content. A very sad story.
But Eva didn't create an engine inside another engine and she's working with Python, which is way simpler than JavaScript. Also, Eva traces her images, Crush and his team are making a customizable avatar that'll enable choice in sex positions, clothing, etc, which GGGB doesn't have. GGGB is a (very well written) story that has its art with clothes depending on your path. You can't choose to be a bad girl with good girl clothing, you can't change your clothes everyday, etc. This micromanaging isn't there.

As it is, FA has way more agency in the way the main character is and behaves than GGGB, and I love GGGB. I'm not putting it down, I'm just pointing out that you are comparing two things that are completely different and have different goals.

Also, you're being extremely rude. This is creative work, each people or team work at their own pace. This is a premise of creative stuff, your concept of enough of work per time means nothing for the rest of the world. Chill, dude.
 

qazxsw80

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I don't see the point of arguing (and, by the way, I didn't call anyone names, unlike two very not self-righteous gentlemen above). I expressed my opionion, not more than that. And on an independent forum, not on their patreon page. And I can do that.
You imagine what this game can/should/might be if so and so after this and that (but most probably won't). I see what I can play now after a few years of development. And there is very little. I see milking, and when I do, I express my opinion about that. And if you don't like it, you know very well where you can go, you don't need me to remind you that.
 

HeelsMaiden

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I think it's just supply and demand really. Right now, porn games featuring female secret agent/spy as the main character can maybe be counted with two hands at best. I know because I actively looked for them. Those that have rpg or sim mechanics like Female Agent are even rarer. Yes, Female Agent development is long and expensive and most likely inefficient but perhaps people still donate because like me they want to play a porn game with this particular setting/theme and there's just not much alternatives (if any) that are better.
 

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I don't get why people are so down on this. Yes, it's a bit slow. Yes, he is doing quite well with Patreon contributors. But I have played the latest release and rather enjoyed it without paying a cent. He releases a free version that is only missing some extra bells and whistles (like multiple starting traits) so if you feel it is too expensive you don't need to contribute. He has his own life, his own schedule and his own vision for the game, and the people giving him money presumably support that schedule and vision. As long as he is honest, open and communicative (which he is) I don't see the problem.
 

Wtershee

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I don't see the point of arguing (and, by the way, I didn't call anyone names, unlike two very not self-righteous gentlemen above). I expressed my opionion, not more than that. And on an independent forum, not on their patreon page. And I can do that.
You imagine what this game can/should/might be if so and so after this and that (but most probably won't). I see what I can play now after a few years of development. And there is very little. I see milking, and when I do, I express my opinion about that. And if you don't like it, you know very well where you can go, you don't need me to remind you that.
like the others, they can express it too. opinion is an opinion does not mean immunity of criticism like you criticize the dev.
 
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