Recommending Femdom Finder 2.0

[Z - Reborn]

You said it yourself, you don't want to condemn it, you want it to be illegal, those are very different.

I can assure you, a man who gets caught giving his money to some twitter thot isn't gonna be seen in a positive light, and some of these dudes are actually married. Can you imagine?

Yeah, illegal when abused. The point I was trying to make there is that it seems to not be "politically correct" to call it evil, which is dumb, and probably the reason why nobody really cares to make it so it gets treated as it should be, which again: it's making it illegal by law when abused.

 

[Genkupok]

I remember a game when the mc have 2 mom, one dominant one submissive. It is html game when there is a story with a company and body transformation

 

[Mister_M]

I remember a game when the mc have 2 mom, one dominant one submissive. It is html game when there is a story with a company and body transformation

I think it's Fall 4 Love.

 

[Genkupok]

I think it's Fall 4 Love.

Lmao exactly, thx bro for being so quick. happy new year to you btw

 

[Mister_M]

Lmao exactly, thx bro for being so quick. happy new year to you btw

Happy New (Femdom) Year

 

[Tom Aspinall]

Yeah, illegal when abused. The point I was trying to make there is that it seems to not be "politically correct" to call it evil, which is dumb, and probably the reason why nobody really cares to make it so it gets treated as it should be, which again: it's making it illegal by law when abused.

I'm gonna quote what you said, so I can try to make sense of what you're saying.

In my humble opinion findom should be considered abuse of mentally weakened people and therefore illegal. My .02.

Here you say it should be illegal, as in against the law. Meaning you could get arrested for it.

So is any other kind of addiction (smoking, drinking, gambling...), and yet we as a society see and accept it as what it is: a disease that can lead to the destruction of lives.

But alas can't condemn anything related to sex because kink shaming is a big no-no lately and promiscuity is empowering... somehow.

And here you complain about society not accepting "condemnation" of it.

Now, let's make it very clear that condemning something is not the same as wanting it to be against the law.

So I have to ask you this, do you think gambling, smoking and gambling should be illegal?

I certainly don't, what you do with your body and your money is your business.
If some moron gets his rocks off to giving you money, why should you get arrested for it?

Secondly, where are you getting this notion that society accepts findom but discourages drinking, smoking and gambling?

I'm talking in real life, how do you think the people in your life would react to you giving money to women just to be degraded vs smoking cigarretes? Do you really think it would go over well with a findomme's parents if they found out?

Can you REALLY tell me society doesn't shun it? I'd be embarassed to even bring up this topic in a conversation. In fact, bring this topic up with some friends, see what they say.

Thirdly, have you ever been fingered by an MMA fighter before?

 

[Mister_M]

Smoking should be illegal in public spaces imo. I don't care what people do with their own health, but I have no intention of breathing in cigarrete smoke and have my health harmed by some morons. Findom should be - at least to some extent - treated as gambling; it's fine and entertaining in moderation, but too much is a danger to you and your close ones. Should it be illegal? No. Should it be discouraged? Yes.

Two random thoughts:
- this reminded me of women from feudal and up until middle 20th century brothels in Japan basically findomming (but without the humiliation aspect) men. Tho they usually have been sold to brothels against their will or so they provide their poor families financial support, and needed money to pay themselves off or to send them to their closed ones. A subject that was somewhat popular in the cinema btw (try watching great An Inlet of Muddy Water by Tadashi Imai for example).

- banning findom - not that I am a supporter of a total ban of findom despite my considerable dislike of it - could positively influence femdom; dommes would be still paid for the sessions, but just draining big bucks because "you own me for a 1K perfume I just bought" type of thing would go away, so the false dommes would go away with it maybe.

 

[jasonfz250]

I'm gonna quote what you said, so I can try to make sense of what you're saying.

Here you say it should be illegal, as in against the law. Meaning you could get arrested for it.


And here you complain about society not accepting "condemnation" of it.

Now, let's make it very clear that condemning something is not the same as wanting it to be against the law.

So I have to ask you this, do you think gambling, smoking and gambling should be illegal?

I certainly don't, what you do with your body and your money is your business.
If some moron gets his rocks off to giving you money, why should you get arrested for it?

Secondly, where are you getting this notion that society accepts findom but discourages drinking, smoking and gambling?

I'm talking in real life, how do you think the people in your life would react to you giving money to women just to be degraded vs smoking cigarretes? Do you really think it would go over well with a findomme's parents if they found out?

Can you REALLY tell me society doesn't shun it? I'd be embarassed to even bring up this topic in a conversation. In fact, bring this topic up with some friends, see what they say.

Thirdly, have you ever been fingered by an MMA fighter before?

"Thirdly, have you ever been fingered by an MMA fighter before?" Bro what

 

[Tom Aspinall]

"Thirdly, have you ever been fingered by an MMA fighter before?" Bro what

What would it take?

 

[jasonfz250]

Smoking should be illegal in public spaces imo. I don't care what people do with their own health, but I have no intention of breathing in cigarrete smoke and have my health harmed by some morons. Findom should be - at least to some extent - treated as gambling; it's fine and entertaining in moderation, but too much is a danger to you and your close ones. Should it be illegal? No. Should it be discouraged? Yes.

Two random thoughts:
- this reminded me of women from feudal and up until middle 20th century brothels in Japan basically findomming (but without the humiliation aspect) men. Tho they usually have been sold to brothels against their will or so they provide their poor families financial support, and needed money to pay themselves off or to send them to their closed ones. A subject that was somewhat popular in the cinema btw (try watching great An Inlet of Muddy Water by Tadashi Imai for example).

- banning findom - not that I am a supporter of a total ban of findom despite my considerable dislike of it - could positively influence femdom; dommes would be still paid for the sessions, but just draining big bucks because "you own me for a 1K perfume I just bought" type of thing would go away, so the false dommes would go away with it maybe.

Not a fan of findom either, But i can totally understand the appeal behind it. The good dommes will usually try to discuss a max budget of allowance per week/month or even just for 1 session. But it's also up to the finsub, to set their own budget of how much they are going to spend. I get that some of them can't control their urges and will spend more then they can afford. (same with gambling) But you have to understand that the majority of dommes (even real ones) don't do femdom because they actually enjoy dominating men. The majority of women are mostly submissive/vanilla. And now that findom is as big as it is. They don't really have to pretend as hard anymore. Also on your first random thought. You mentioned japanese women in brothels "findomming without the humiliation aspect" What do you mean exactly. How does findomming without any humiliation even work? Might also check out the movie you recommended, it seems pretty interesting and could also probably give me more of an idea with what you meant.

 

[jasonfz250]

What would it take?

Oh nvm i just saw your profile name/pic yeah i get it now. Non mma/ufc fans probably won't tho

 

[LAKueiJin]

Ok, to give my 2 cents on the whole findom divide, I think it is a perfectly valid kink and therefore that it should not be illegal. At the end of the day, if throwing away your money to a domme should be illegal, shouldn't superchats to streamers also be illegalised? Ludicrously high patreon tiers? Where would one even draw the line?

In my humble opinion, if a sub is smart and discerning they can research and make sure they are being findommed by a dominant woman, not by some scam artist with an AI-generated avatar pic, and if they get sexual gratification out of that, that's still a better use of one's money than a billion things modern capitalism offers you the chance to waste your money on, like YA novels, live stream superchats or, I dunno, pre-ordering Starfield...

For the record, I'm into findom only in fiction (games/stories etc), the same way I can be into femdom scat, mind control or life-long enslavement stories, (eg I don't really engage in it IRL, even though I can find a femdom narrative centered around financial domination, humiliation and the ruin it can bring to a sub's life captivating and hot if well-written) and I don't deny that people can easily get scammed on the internet if they are into it, and that's regretable ofc, but at the end of the day there's a billion ways someone could get scammed out of their money on the web if they're naive, (shoutout to the Nigerian princes that have a million dollars for you out there) so I'd never want it banned or illegalised...

Now, to move on to more festive topics, happy new year everyone! Also, may I suggest that for

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2024, we implement a ranked-choice voting system? Basically, that for the main category, everyone can nominate at no. 1 their favourite femdom game of the year, no matter what reason they liked it most for, (even if they can't explain it - just what femdom game everyone enjoyed the most) but if their no. 1 game doesn't make it into top 5, and their second choice does, that second choice gets treated as their no. 1 vote in the final count?

I noticed that just 3 games, namely SoB, KG and NiF, literally won all of the awards, and I think lots of people on this thread enjoyed smaller games from smaller devs more, but that most of them didn't put those games at no. 1 simply because they knew they had no chance of winning, and instead they put at no. 1 their favourite big femdom game just because they wanted that one to win more than the other popular ones. (the same reason an American environmentalist or communist will often vote democrat, and an anarcho-capitalist will vote republican, while if the US had ranked-choice voting all of these people would put a tiny party they align with ideologically at no. 1 and just vote for the democrats or republicans as a lower-ranked choice)

Just an idea that came to me to help popularise small devs and their lesser known projects, allow dedicated fans to vote for the game they truly enjoyed the most without thinking they're "wasting their vote", and still gauge which of the "big" games are liked by most people... (as realistically it's still gonna be one of those games that wins)

 

[LAKueiJin]

I think you are way out.. Also I don't hate on alpha gigachads.. It's what most girls like and want and it's also easiest for us men to pretend to be. I love femdom and all but at a club i am a alpha gigachad.. Going forward saying, hi excuse me, may i.. really won't work as good as.. Hey there! You look like two fine girls, mind if i sit down while i finish my ale? You see my friend is... yeah? See the difference?

Also, it's people like putin and what he cares about that matters, as he can wage war and kill and kill and kill and get away with it.. The things we discuss are trivial.
If it's not Putin or whatever and he is being controlled then that is the issue. People like that, or groups. Rest is kinda petty. ngl.

I know I'm late to the party, but there is every valid reason in the world to hate on "alpha gicachads", especially the dumb kind that don't even bother to filter games by tag and ask the eternal "Is femdom avoidable?" in every femdom game's thread!

Also, nobody is actually an "alpha gigachad" - men that think of themselves as such are usually massively insecure (and not very bright) misogynists, and of course it's perfectly fine to act like the stereotype of such a guy/assume said personna as a hook-up strategy (if it works for you, you go to clubs and like girls that are into that type of guy - many ifs there), but based on this comment and the fact that you're on this thread, Imma go on a limb and assume the true you isn't an "alpha gigachad" either...

Finally, I'd say Israel or the US get away with a lot more killing, war crimes and genocide without repercussion, as Russia was pretty widely condemned and sanctioned more than any other country in history for its invasion of Ukraine so, you know, without getting too political, your theory pretty much crumbles if the people that get away with most shit are fine and ripped "Alpha gigachads" like Joe Biden! It's almost like getting away with war crimes is actually directly proportional to a country's economic and hegemonic power, (or being a loyal proxy-state of a superpower, as Israel is to the US) and not in any way a function of a leader's projected masculinity...

 

[Mister_M]

Not a fan of findom either, But i can totally understand the appeal behind it. The good dommes will usually try to discuss a max budget of allowance per week/month or even just for 1 session. But it's also up to the finsub, to set their own budget of how much they are going to spend. I get that some of them can't control their urges and will spend more then they can afford. (same with gambling) But you have to understand that the majority of dommes (even real ones) don't do femdom because they actually enjoy dominating men. The majority of women are mostly submissive/vanilla. And now that findom is as big as it is. They don't really have to pretend as hard anymore. Also on your first random thought. You mentioned japanese women in brothels "findomming without the humiliation aspect" What do you mean exactly. How does findomming without any humiliation even work? Might also check out the movie you recommended, it seems pretty interesting and could also probably give me more of an idea with what you meant.

I agree, and I know there are dommes who know the limits and are professionals and won't try to cheat you and will discuss the amount you're gonna pay and/or have clear price list. But there's a lot of random girls findomming hard, who are scammers really and sometimes even when you pay for the session they won't appear after taking your money, so maybe some kind of control - like in gambling - could be a good idea, but I'm not sure it's really possible. Of course, main fault lies with - as per usual - men who can't control themselves and it's them who really create all these findom scammers.

The film I recommended is an omnibus, one novel is about a woman from the brothel to whom a guy gets addicted and loses all his money and family on her. If you're more interested in this, Clothes of Deception (by Kōzaburō Yoshimura) is about a woman/prostitute who seduces men for their money and drains their wallets hard. By 'no humiliation' I meant they don't humiliate or dom the guys, it's more a question of seduction, teasing, draining money, occasional sex, throwing them away when they are poor, and then looking for new victims. Tho in the films the fault is not really women's as they - in a heavily partiarchal society - cannot find any normal work so sex business becomes their only possibility, especially during feudal times or after WWII (therefore it's a quite common trope in a movies from late 40s/early 50s in Japan, even if not main subject, this theme often appears in the background). So they're using the fact that men are horny and can't control their urges, which is imo what findom is basically about. Some 70s films by Li Han-Hsiang touch this subject too, but obv from the Chinese perspective. [I mostly watch older movies.]

Anyway, I think it's enough about findom. People probably want to read about games here

"Thirdly, have you ever been fingered by an MMA fighter before?" Bro what

FemDom Fables Studios Don't you have an MMA fighter in your game? Maybe some fingering then?

pre-ordering Starfield...

So... Cosa nostra style execution after all.

2024, we implement a ranked-choice voting system? Basically, that for the main category, everyone can nominate at no. 1 their favourite femdom game of the year, no matter what reason they liked it most for, (even if they can't explain it - just what femdom game everyone enjoyed the most) but if their no. 1 game doesn't make it into top 5, and their second choice does, that second choice gets treated as their no. 1 vote in the final count?

Voting on your fav game without giving any reason was ok. Many did that.

I'm not sure about the counting system you propose. Isn't it more just to count the pts exactly as people distributed them? It maybe takes away some chances from the smaller games, but I'm not sure everyone would like a game they gave 4 pts, suddenly receive 5 pts above their favourite game. But maybe I'm wrong. I think I'll start a new thread dedicated to Femdom Game of the Year awards to discuss all categories, counting system and maybe some bonuses long before we'll start the voting.

I noticed that just 3 games, namely SoB, KG and NiF, literally won all of the awards, and I think lots of people on this thread enjoyed smaller games from smaller devs more, but that none of them put those at no. 1 simply because they knew they had no chance of winning, and they put at no. 1 their favourite big game just because they wanted that one to win more than the other popular femdom games!

I honestly hope that people really voted on what they truly believe is the best game and not based on what may or may not win. After all this poll is primarily for fun and to acknowledge the best devs. I voted for example on KG as my #3 cause - even if I'm not a big fan - I truly believe it's one of the most polished femdom AVN around here. And I also voted - as the only person I think - on Healslut, cause I have fun playing it, but I don't consider it better than NiF and it doesn't have pure femdom route so I couldn't give it higher spot.

Maybe KG, NiF and TSoB are really the best what femdom gaming has to offer? Maybe someone else's game (hint hint) will take spot #1 next year, cause it'll be even better?

Just an idea that came to me to help popularise small devs and their lesser known projects, allow dedicated fans to vote for the game they truly enjoyed the most without thinking they're "wasting their vote", and still gauge which of the "big" games are liked by most people...

Something to talk about on our soon to be created Femdom Game of The Year thread. We could add a list of games elligible for voting on so everyone can check them, since many may not know all the titles, especially smaller ones. But that's for the next year I suppose.

 

[J1215]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
And more good Femdom-games in the new year!

 

[LAKueiJin]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
And more good Femdom-games in the new year!

The self-appointed update-master hath spoken, and so it shalt be! A new prophecy is born!

 

[Rennie245]

Got around to playing https://f95zone.to/threads/swing-miss-v0-65-3-infidelisoft.10437/ .Mostly Swingning/NTR, the MC can become the slave of the other dudes Wife and the content whit her is mostly Pegging/Chastity whit some other stuff.

 

[PootisPenser76]

Best AI chatbot is kobold.cpp with llama2 model + tavernai or sillytavern, but you need a good pc for it
also^^
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what is SD?

Also could you point me a good way to get started with kobold + llama2 +tavernai or sillytavern please?

 

[LAKueiJin]

what is SD?

Also could you point me a good way to get started with kobold + llama2 +tavernai or sillytavern please?

Don't know about your second request as I never really used chatbots, but SD stands for Stable Diffusion. You can have some fun and create pics with it on the website civitai straight away, but unfortunately a lot of NSFW prompts started getting blocked by their provider recently.

 

[FemDom Fables Studios]

Clothes of Deception -

Thanks, added to the watchlist as the premise sounds really interesting.
also shes in it:

FemDom Fables Studios Don't you have an MMA fighter in your game? Maybe some fingering then?

No problem, but she is a female so the meme won't be as good. Still sounds like a beginning of a hot scene

Something to talk about on our soon to be created Femdom Game of The Year thread. We could add a list of games elligible for voting on so everyone can check them, since many may not know all the titles, especially smaller ones. But that's for the next year I suppose.

This is important, I forgot that KG got an update in 2023 and so it didn't make it to my TOP 5.