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Aseratrix

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To be fair when it comes to legal barriers for immigration and the like, all of the developed East Asian countries are pretty bad from what I gather. For example you are not even allowed to work in either SK or China unless you already have at least a Bachelor's degree as an immigrant, so if you go there for studies your parents/scholarships have to support you fully as you can't legally be employed part-time. (I think Japan might've changed legislation for this some years ago, but it's definitely still the case in China)

If you want to entertain the idea of moving to East Asia as a flight of fancy though, the answer is still Japan for 3 simple reasons:

1. Porn is legal there
2. There's more femdom content being made
3. They have Mistress Land vids like or - case closed! :sneaky: :LOL:
If you have the Bachelor's degree earned at home does it count?

Anyways, yeah, not only do they have the best femdom [not only Mistress Land, but Boots Yakata, Yapoo Market, etc], but I think East Asian girls look amazing. Too bad they have been duped lately that double eyelids are automatically more beautiful [well at least in Japan and Korea, because as far as I can tell many Chinese have the double eyelids naturally]. I really don't think so. They ruin what makes them special, and stunning in my opinion.

I didn't mean that they all are like that. I had a Chinese students in my group at uni and they were pretty nice, though at the time - as I said - I mostly befriended a Japanese guy and he HATED Chinese, always making fun of them and not only him, they were also 3 other Japanese students at the time (3 girls) and I remember once when were going back from the club we went pass some Chinese folks and they started asking me questions like: "do you know they eat dogs?"
Looking in from the outside - while I know the historical issues which fuel it - the hate between East Asian countries is one of the saddest political/cultural phenomena ever.
Do Japanese and Chinese can instantly tell themselves apart based on how they look? Because at least in SOME instances they don't look that different?

There's some good femdom content in Taiwan and China too btw. And even if percentage wise there's less femdom in China than in Japan 20% of Chinese population is still more than all the Japanese combined (don't quote me though, I'm bad at math) so I'm sure we can find some pretty good amount of femdom there.
Indeed, especially in the last 10 or so years they popped up, which is great! I wonder about Korean femdom tho? Or Vietnam? ETC...Even Indian [altho too dark skinned for me] lol?
 

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I wonder about Korean femdom tho?
I've some Korean femdom, not much though. I'm not big fan of Korean stuff and def prefer Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan and lately Indonesia. Edit: I remember I've seen some Thai femdom, but only a little bit.

Do Japanese and Chinese can instantly tell themselves apart based on how they look? Because at least in SOME instances they don't look that different?
Of course not. Plus there are some guys like Takeshi Kaneshiro, who isn't really Japanese, but took on Japanese name and became quite succesful there. Though he's mostly a big name in Hong Kong/China I feel. There are more examples like that. Plus in a lot of HK, Taiwanese, Chinese movies it's customary to depict Japanese as violent barbarians, murderers and rapists. Maybe not so much nowadays but it was definitely the norm in the 70s. But still foreigners in HK/Chinese films are usually cast as villains (from Ip Man movies and spin-off [with Scott Adkins, Dave Bautista, Hiroyuki Ikeuchi, Darren Shahlavi playing bad guys] to widely popular Wolf Warrior fllms [Scott Adkins, Frank Grillo]).

Regarding their looks I really dislike that they make their skins lighter and more white, some people there have nicer, darker skins, but for cultural reasons they tend to whiten them. But that's obviously coming from my own taste as I prefer ebony goddesses :)
 

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I've some Korean femdom, not much though. I'm not big fan of Korean stuff and def prefer Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan and lately Indonesia. Edit: I remember I've seen some Thai femdom, but only a little bit.


Of course not. Plus there are some guys like Takeshi Kaneshiro, who isn't really Japanese, but took on Japanese name and became quite succesful there. Though he's mostly a big name in Hong Kong/China I feel. There are more examples like that. Plus in a lot of HK, Taiwanese, Chinese movies it's customary to depict Japanese as violent barbarians, murderers and rapists. Maybe not so much nowadays but it was definitely the norm in the 70s. But still foreigners in HK/Chinese films are usually cast as villains (from Ip Man movies and spin-off [with Scott Adkins, Dave Bautista, Hiroyuki Ikeuchi, Darren Shahlavi playing bad guys] to widely popular Wolf Warrior fllms [Scott Adkins, Frank Grillo]).

Regarding their looks I really dislike that they make their skins lighter and more white, some people there have nicer, darker skins, but for cultural reasons they tend to whiten them. But that's obviously coming from my own taste as I prefer ebony goddesses :)
There was an IP man movie [outside of the main trilogy] which featured the conflict even more prominently [than the trilogy]. But what I remember the most about it was a walking aesthetic category of a beauty playing the role of a Japanese swordswoman. It burned into my braaaaain. :LOL:

PS: I think the conflict will only solve if there will be a reconciliation of sorts on state-level, in which Japan assumes some of the responsibility for some of the aggression they did actually commit, and the Chinese and Koreans should learn to forgive [even if not forget]. In other words: we may not live to see it.
 

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There's some good femdom content in Taiwan and China too btw. And even if percentage wise there's less femdom in China than in Japan 20% of Chinese population is still more than all the Japanese combined (don't quote me though, I'm bad at math) so I'm sure we can find some pretty good amount of femdom there. Do you know any Indonesian femdom btw?
20 percent of China is about 280 million, so that would be the 4th biggest contry on Earth and definitely more than 2 Japans, so you're not wrong... :LOL: Unfortunately, I've never found Indonesian, Malaysian or Vietnamese femdom anywhere, even though i haven't searched very thoroughly for either. :(

Btw the reason I suggested China is not so good for femdom is that technically, just like in South Korea, all porn is illegal in mainland China, but to be fair a lot of Chinese people are experts at digging up loopholes, and even western porn sites are choke-full with hundreds of Chinese femdom vids (most of them trampling or feet worship with dispassionate mistresses, but some of it is good and there is some more unique stuff as well), so I think that if you live there for a while and "learn the ropes" so to speak, there is definitely plenty of femdom to be found!

I also like Chinese girls the most on average because they usually tend to act more assertive publicly, not be afraid of having arguments with men and often also dress in what I find to be classier more-feminine attire rather just copying western fashions completely! (I know Kimonos or more old-timey western fashion are also often worn in Japan, but in Korea not so much) Part of this is probably my bias as well for having studied Chinese history/culture more than Japanese or Korean one, (or even watched more cinema from there) but even two Chinese girls I know personally are quite stern, composed and bossy/domineering in some ways, which to me at least seems less acceptable of women in Japanese society as an attitude - I suspect the fact that some Feminism was pushed in China after the 1949 revolution helped tear down some traditionalist expectations of how women should behave, which definitely didn't happen in US-influenced SK and Japan.

and I remember once when were going back from the club we went pass some Chinese folks and they started asking me questions like: "do you know they eat dogs?"
Aww god! :LOL: Fun thing about that tired stereotype is that even in absolute terms South Koreans actually eat more dogs than the entirety of China, and the only region in China where dogs are regularly consumed is Guangdong, the Cantonese-speaking province where Hong Kong and Macao also are. If even Japanese believe this one, it really shows you how disinformed people are these days, internet and all...

If you have the Bachelor's degree earned at home does it count?
Yes, it does from what I remember.

Indeed, especially in the last 10 or so years they popped up, which is great!
And probably even more is coming, as usually all the Chinese content we get in the west is just the tiny amount that trickles through the firewall/gets uploaded on Western websites! ;)
 
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...seems less acceptable of women in Japanese society as an attitude...
Saaadodeerree yandeeereee tsundeeereee lalala...:giggle:

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But yeah, overall I think you're right. But from what I heard Korean girls are the bossiest right now.

As for the Chinese eating dogs, that's the same as the Swiss eating cats.
 
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There was an IP man movie [outside of the main trilogy] which featured the conflict even more prominently [than the trilogy]. But what I remember the most about it was a walking aesthetic category of a beauty playing the role of a Japanese swordswoman. It burned into my braaaaain. :LOL:
The main trilogy? You mean 4 films directed by Wilson Yip, right? With Donnie Yen as Ip Man.

Japanese swordswoman? Damn, I don't remember seeing it. Though it could be Herman Yau's The Legend is Born: Ip Man, I've seen it long time ago. I definitely preffered his Ip Man: The Final Fight. There's also nice The Grandmaster by Wong Kar-Wai.

I also like Chinese girls the most on average because they usually tend to act more assertive publicly, not be afraid of having arguments with men and often also dress in what I find to be classier more-feminine attire rather just copying western fashions completely! (I know Kimonos or more old-timey western fashion are also often worn in Japan, but in Korea not so much) Part of this is probably my bias as well for having studied Chinese history/culture more than Japanese or Korean one, (or even watched more cinema from there) but even two Chinese girls I know personally are quite stern, composed and bossy/domineering in some ways, which to me at least seems less acceptable of women in Japanese society as an attitude - I suspect the fact that some Feminism was pushed in China after the 1949 revolution helped tear down some traditionalist expectations of how women should behave.
I also think it's mirrored in their cinema. While women in Japanese films or Korean were pretty meek or found a misfortune if tried to be strong (even though many films said that they were right and society is wrong) in Chinese and later HK, Taiwanese film basically up to 1965 women were the leading force in wuxias and even in Cantonese kung fus there were women characters. And after '65 we have a lot of strong women in wuxias, kung fu and action films (with Angela Mao, Nora Miao, Pei-Pei Cheng, Lily Ho, Shih Szu, Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh and more) that don't meet bad ends and are not played as a sexy heroines only/mostly for male enjoyment as was often the case with Japanese female-centred action films.
 

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Saaadodeerree yandeeereee tsundeeereee lalala...:giggle:

But yeah, overall I think you're right. But from what I heard Korean girls are the bossiest right now.
Mistress comrade Kim Yo-Jong agrees! :LOL: I would... doubt it myself for several reasons - I think the K-pop industry, which is very much run like a dystopian corporate massive business by a few agencies in South Korea (as in, most kpop bands are never even allowed to write their own lyrics and there are massive teams working on the concept for every music video), figured that the aesthetic of dominant female idols sells with western audiences they are trying to export their music to, (you could see Blackpink already dabbling into light dominant aesthetics in vids from 4 years ago like , and they're the most popular girl band in SK) but I watched plenty of dramas from both China and Korea and in the past worked with 2 Chinese women and a Korean one, and both from the dramas and IRL experience Chinese women seem to me less reserved, more direct and less afraid to boss you around or take charge... (tbh one of them was my boss at a previous job, whereas the Korean one was just a colleague, but very few Chinese girls act meek or shy comparatively to how many Japanese or Korean ones seem to)

I've also seen some South Korean accounts commenting supportively on a few radfem vids on Youtube in the past few years, so I'm at least pretty certain that more women are becoming independent or supportive of feminist ideas these days in SK, so less repressed sexuality and more of them embracing more outwardly dominant attitudes are sure to follow eventually...
 

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The main trilogy? You mean 4 films directed by Wilson Yip, right? With Donnie Yen as Ip Man.

Japanese swordswoman? Damn, I don't remember seeing it. Though it could be Herman Yau's The Legend is Born: Ip Man, I've seen it long time ago. I definitely preffered his Ip Man: The Final Fight. There's also nice The Grandmaster by Wong Kar-Wai.


I also think it's mirrored in their cinema. While women in Japanese films or Korean were pretty meek or found a misfortune if tried to be strong (even though many films said that they were right and society is wrong) in Chinese and later HK, Taiwanese film basically up to 1965 women were the leading force in wuxias and even in Cantonese kung fus there were women characters. And after '65 we have a lot of strong women in wuxias, kung fu and action films (with Angela Mao, Nora Miao, Pei-Pei Cheng, Lily Ho, Shih Szu, Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh and more) that don't meet bad ends and are not played as a sexy heroines only/mostly for male enjoyment as was often the case with Japanese female-centred action films.
Oh yes outside the tetralogy :) There is actually a 5th, less known IP movie made in the same time-frame by another individual, showcasing the childhood and young years of IP man.
 
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Mistress comrade Kim Yo-Jong agrees! :LOL: I would... doubt it myself for several reasons - I think the K-pop industry, which is very much run like a dystopian corporate massive business by a few agencies in South Korea (as in, most kpop bands are never even allowed to write their own lyrics and there are massive teams working on the concept from every music video), figured that the aesthetic of dominant female idols sells with western audiences they are trying to export their music to, (you could see Blackpink already dabbling into light dominant aesthetics in vids from 4 years ago like , and they're the most popular girl band in SK) but I watched plenty of dramas from both China and Korea and in the past worked with 2 Chinese women and a Korean one, and both from the dramas and IRL experience Chinese women seem to me less reserved, more direct and less afraid to boss you around or take charge... (tbh one of them was my boss at a previous job, whereas the Korean one was just a colleague)

I've also seen some South Korean accounts commenting supportively on a few radfem vids on Youtube in the past few years, so I'm at least pretty certain than more women are becoming independent or supportive of feminist ideas these days in SK, so less repressed sexuality and more of them embracing more dominant attitudes are sure to follow eventually...
Yeah, while I tend to admire some of the gorgeous K-pop ladies [with the presented attitude], I am fully aware how plastic, commercial, exploitative and manufactured that whole thing is, as someone into rock/metal, I resent that as well.

But my info about Korean girls being quite dommy came from other sources. NVM, ultimately I think I accept your praise for the Chinese women being the most liberated ones.
 
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But my info about Korean girls being quite dommy came from other sources. NVM, ultimately I think I accept your praise for the Chinese women being the most liberated ones.
It's more an (admittedly biased) educated guess than a statement - ultimately I just like dominant women regardless of ethnicity or nationality. I'm just imagining now that on some far away corner of the internet some Asian subs are also having exactly the discussion we are having in their language but wondering whether French, Italian, German, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian or Russian women are the most dominant... :unsure: :ROFLMAO: At the end of the day none of these things are really meassurable objectively, so I don't have a strong stance on it.

Btw, I've watched the Korean femdom BDSM movie, "Love and Leashes" - you can also watch it with Romanian subtitles if you don't wanna waste money on a Netflix subscription! :LOL: It's obviously light femdom, and the male sub character is pretty cringy especially early on, (plus that the narrative focuses a lot on contracts, respecting limits, being responsible etc) but I found the mistress quite charming and adorable attitude-wise and overall I'd say it's better than I expected it to be! :)
 
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one of them was my boss at a previous job
It reminds me when Raymond Chow stepped down as a general manager at Shaw Brothers studio to set up his own studio, Mona Fong took his position and she managed - among other people - a lot of male directors (some of them disliking strong female characters btw like Cheh Chang); I'm pretty sure smth like that did not happened in Japan. Another fact: when Bruce Lee couldn't play co-lead (with George Lazenby) in Cutter his role went to the 2nd most popular kung fu star from Golden Harvest, that is to Angela Mao. Pretty much nothing was changed in the script and the decision wasn't made to sex up the movie in any way, but because she was a ligimate kung fu star at the time (though they've written one scene where Lazenby's character gets hooked on viagra-like drug and tries to attack sexually character played by Mao, to no success of course, and she doesn't show any skin; I think originally both male characters were supposed to be drugged like that).

Also there's a certain notion in huangmei films (at least with Ivy Ling Po) that if you give women equal chances as men have it turns out that women are superior both intellectually and/or physically (like The Perfumed Arrow or the Hua Mulan movie from 1964). I don't think that was a message they wanted to send, but nevertheless this notion is there and it's hard to miss it.
 
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I've heard that South Korea is also quite welcoming to foreigners, but maybe not as much as Taiwan.

As for the Chinese eating dogs, that's the same as the Swiss eating cats.
... You made that one up on the spot, didn't you? :cautious: Or is that really a stereotype in Central Europe?

The actual stereotype is that the Swiss eat clocks.

Maybe, but I dislike the punk influences in this one [it feels more present than in the typical NWOBHM], in my opinion rock and metal is not sexy in that way, sonically. Especially punk rock, that's the least sexy :cautious:

When I listen to rock/metal my mind shuts off the sex drive and engages the part which also engages with stuff like math and physics [and of course more lofty feelings like sadness, anger, loss, mourning, dread, or simply the cozy feelings of escapism], I expect cerebral joys, rather than arousal. While some pop songs are intentionally crafted to elicit arousal. In my opinion anyways.

Maybe this song is somewhat sexy yet metal:



or this:



especially this:



But its not the norm. My fav rock/metal acts have titles like: "the spherical parallelism of the cosmic triangle" :LOL:
Hmm, I don't think the song is really sexually arousing either, more like it's fun with a little sex appeal thrown in.

How strong is the turn-off reaction from rock though? Could a domme deny an orgasm just by putting a punk song on? :unsure:

Oh, I guess this must be because for me lyrics are almost unimportant in music [except prog rock/metal where it sometimes matters]. I treat singing as just another instrument, which either sounds good, used impressively or not. For example, I love the singing voice of Coverdale from Whitesnake, but he could sing about going to a supermarket to buy undies, or simply recite a dictionary, what matters for me - like a true metalhead - is the meaning I can form myself based solely on the timbre, sound, and feelings the singing itself conveys, not the words. Words only matter if they are so good that they pique my attention, otherwise I expect singers to sing amazingly and with an authentic tone, and combined with the rest of the music convey a mood, a sonic pleasure, an atmosphere, an emotion, etc. I fill in the text myself, with reflections about my own experiences and feelings. Kinda like when listening to classical music.

There are two kinds of people:

1. Bob Dylan kind of people who want amazing lyrics and shitty music and
2. Emerson Lake and Palmer people who want amazing music with sometimes nonsensical lyrics

I firmly belong to the 2nd type. :geek:
I think that the lyrics do add a lot for some bands, like Iron Maiden and Saxon that put much thought and effort into their texts even if the result is not really poetic. It can be a mixed bag for other bands like Judas Priest or Black Sabbath. But yes many bands have stupid lyrics that aren't worth looking at.

Something completely else, I think it's strange, almost absurd how often people on these forums complain about abortion. I thought this was a piracy site with tons of porn, not an American pro-life site.
 

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It reminds me when Raymond Chow stepped down as a general manager at Shaw Brothers studio to set up his own studio, Mona Fong took his position and she managed - among other people - a lot of male directors (some of them disliking strong female characters btw like Cheh Chang); I'm pretty sure smth like that did not happened in Japan. Another fact: when Bruce Lee couldn't play co-lead (with George Lazenby) in Cutter his role went to the 2nd most popular kung fu star from Golden Harvest, that is to Angela Mao. Pretty much nothing was changed in the script and the decision wasn't made to sex up the movie in any way, but because she was a ligimate kung fu star at the time (though they've written one scene where Lazenby's character gets hooked on viagra-like drug and tries to attack sexually character played by Mao, to no success of course, and she doesn't show any skin; I think originally both male characters were supposed to be drugged like that).

Also there's a certain notion in huangmei films (at least with Ivy Ling Po) that if you give women equal chances as men have it turns out that women are superior both intellectually and/or physically (like The Perfumed Arrow or the Hua Mulan movie from 1964). I don't think that was a message they wanted to send, but nevertheless this notion is there and it's hard to miss it.
You are a living encyclopedia of East Asian cinema - I'm glad my boring short remark reminded you of this! :LOL: I really have to catch up on a lot of the awesome cinema you recommended here and on the other thread, but "The Perfumed Arrow" and "Cutter" might leapfrom a lot of other stuff on the list now!
 

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You are a living encyclopedia of East Asian cinema - I'm glad my boring short remark reminded you of this! :LOL: I really have to catch up on a lot of the awesome cinema you recommended here and on the other thread, but "The Perfumed Arrow" and "Cutter" might leapfrom a lot of other stuff on the list now!
The Perfumed Arrow takes a lot of inspirations from The Love Eterne (1963) [some people say that this was the film that introduced then contemporary viewers to the idea of rewatching one movie numerous times]. It's not a great movie per se, but it's a film that points to some interesting changes happening in HK cinema of the times, with huangmei losing popularity for the wuxia films to take the #1 spot and to some extent it even foreshadows fengyue films of 70s. Anyway, watching it without the general knowledge is still pretty fun as Ivy Ling Po is a really nice actress no matter if she's playing men or women (or women playing men).

Cutter is def not the best kung fu has to offer, there are better films with Angela Mao like Hap Ki Do, I personally enjoyed The Tournament quite a lot too. And my knowledge of HK cinema ends basically around 1974/75 :)

I was thinking about making some kind of list for the other thread with HK, Taiwanese films from 1965(or earlier)-74 with strong female characters, but that's too much writing and not many people would read it anyway.
 
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... You made that one up on the spot, didn't you? :cautious: Or is that really a stereotype in Central Europe?

The actual stereotype is that the Swiss eat clocks.
I swear not. Maybe it was about the Italians? :unsure: I am not sure. But certainly cats.

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They are edibly adorable, that's for sure! Albeit not in that sense...maybe they eat pussies, and it is a case of "lost in translation". :ROFLMAO:

Hmm, I don't think the song is really sexually arousing either, more like it's fun with a little sex appeal thrown in.
I agree.

How strong is the turn-off reaction from rock though? Could a domme deny an orgasm just by putting a punk song on? :unsure:
I am inclined to think that she would have more power over me than a lousy punk rock song :) Granted, if I were to hear some back-alley, canal-smelling, typical punk style, two-syllable "chorus" of angry shouting with forced swashbuckler Brittish-accent on top of the same repeating, ultra-fuzzed up two notes, I can't guarantee I would not develop some form of post-traumatic dissociative mental meltdown.

I think that the lyrics do add a lot for some bands, like Iron Maiden and Saxon that put much thought and effort into their texts even if the result is not really poetic. It can be a mixed bag for other bands like Judas Priest or Black Sabbath. But yes many bands have stupid lyrics that aren't worth looking at.
I agree, but the singing quality would be equal still. I do hear lyrics when they are good, they worm themselves through the amazing voices into my prefrontal cortex, unless they are about dragons again, which I really don't mind.

Something completely else, I think it's strange, almost absurd how often people on these forums complain about abortion. I thought this was a piracy site with tons of porn, not an American pro-life site.
Yeah, its abysmal! I tend to avoid most Americans [with due respect to the outliers]...always expecting a dose of utterly inane, thoroughly uncultivated, thought-stopping bunk-beef insanity being bellowed with the unflinching confidence befitting a home-schooled spawn of a protestant preacher moaning about JizzUs and Gawd! American conservatism is pure and unadulterated reactionary, "regressive", misogynistic, anachronistic, bellicose, paternalistic, woman-hating, verbose, self-incensing, over the top, messianic, fear-driven, ultra-dramatic collection of the most vile and bile-filled, mucuous obstacle against the progress of humanity, only rivaled by similarly fundamentalist, traditionalist, patriarchal evolutionary cul-de-sacs like Islamism and other collective, mentally ossified, historically embarrassing manifestations of this sorry species on the verge of self-annihilation both on a mental and a physical plain!

Those are all misogynist assholes, I am willing to put money on it, who think The Handmaid's Tale is a documentary or at least a prescriptive moral guide-book! :mad:
 
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It's more an (admittedly biased) educated guess than a statement - ultimately I just like dominant women regardless of ethnicity or nationality. I'm just imagining now that on some far away corner of the internet some Asian subs are also having exactly the discussion we are having in their language but wondering whether French, Italian, German, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian or Russian women are the most dominant... :unsure: :ROFLMAO: At the end of the day none of these things are really meassurable objectively, so I don't have a strong stance on it.

Btw, I've watched the Korean femdom BDSM movie, "Love and Leashes" - you can also watch it with Romanian subtitles if you don't wanna waste money on a Netflix subscription! :LOL: It's obviously light femdom, and the male sub character is pretty cringy especially early on, (plus that the narrative focuses a lot on contracts, respecting limits, being responsible etc) but I found the mistress quite charming and adorable attitude-wise and overall I'd say it's better than I expected it to be! :)
Some nice Romanian metal just for you! :p

 
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