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Will this update be 0.6 or 0.7? I'm a bit confused, to be honest. I say this because it had already been said that those two updates would be from Meredith. What I don't know is if they would come out both or one by one.
The update that is wrapping up 0.6--a Meredith update. The one after that is 0.7, which will also be a Meredith update.

I do hope that you never have to go that route. You would have to rework so much content and I feel it goes against the spirit of the game itself.
I hope I don't either. I've made a rough estimate what would be involved to make this change and it isn't pretty. It's not just a matter of putting references of "M0m" and "m0ther" on a variable. In the case of Meredith, there's a lot of personalized scenes that wouldn't make much sense in a Landlady context. What I will probably do is slowly migrate towards a game project that COULD have that switch flipped over several updates so that it wouldn't be so painful if I do need to break that glass in case of emergency.
 
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Dear game author, I am a player from China. After playing this game, I can't stop playing it. I play it almost every day. But I don't have a foreign credit card for subscription sponsorship, is there any other way? I want to become your subscription member!
哥们,第一次在f95zone遇到国人,你如果想订阅作者,可以去淘宝搜虚拟支付卡,买一张5美元的(以订阅费用最低的1.5美元为例)差不多要花35块,然后去论坛第一页点Subscribestar 链接注册,然后绑定虚拟充值卡,点击订阅就行了
 
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Dear game author, I am a player from China. After playing this game, I can't stop playing it. I play it almost every day. But I don't have a foreign credit card for subscription sponsorship, is there any other way? I want to become your subscription member!
Dude, the first time I met a countrymen in f95zone, if you want to subscribe to the author, you can go to Taobao to search for a virtual payment card. It costs about 35 yuan to buy a $5 card (taking the lowest subscription fee of $1.5 as an example). Then go to the first page of the forum, click the Subscribestar link to register, bind the virtual recharge card, and click Subscribe
 

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Cheer up! sir,land lady won't be the worst situation. I think most players enjoy this game is not obsessed with the tag of incest,but a relatively open game world which full of milfs and players can interact with every items they see. and you also put a lot of Easter eggs and classic jokes in this game ,this make your game pretty unique compare to other RPG or renpy production line games that only have words and sex animation s.I have been following this game three years and every few months i will subscribe your Subscribestar.as long as I alive . I will always be the fan of game developers like you .
Most players are playing for the mom. Im playing this mainly mainly for the raw incest talk instead of landlady sh*t.
 

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The update that is wrapping up 0.6--a Meredith update. The one after that is 0.7, which will also be a Meredith update.



I hope I don't either. I've made a rough estimate what would be involved to make this change and it isn't pretty. It's not just a matter of putting references of "M0m" and "m0ther" on a variable. In the case of Meredith, there's a lot of personalized scenes that wouldn't make much sense in a Landlady context. What I will probably do is slowly migrate towards a game project that COULD have that switch flipped over several updates so that it wouldn't be so painful if I do need to break that glass in case of emergency.
You can follow the game called "timestamps" model. In that game, the patch is not just to replace Landlady/Mom, But also change the whole script towards raw incest talk like "Suck me Boobs like when you are a baby" or "go into where you come from".
 
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fuck! Dude you remind me if this game change the relationship of MC and Meredith .their dirty talks will be more boring and just like a couple of lovers with age differences.I enjoy this game also because the sex between Meredith and MC is mixed with selfless maternal love from mother to her child .And what I thought more , I watched a web discussion last week,it saying,if your mother and girlfriend exchange mind and soul with each other,and to bring them back to normal,you need to choose one of them to have sex twenty times without condom,which one will you choose ? it's hard to make a decision,as i think, if you choose mother'soul and girlfriend' body ,you definitely will get the joy from contrary to morality .And if you two have a baby. it also won't get any gender defect .unless you want build an ogre army same to the movie <Wrong Turn> if Meredith still is the mother-character.she is the ' girlfriend with mother's soul' kind that you can to love and impregnate casually .If she become to landlady she will more just like a girlfriend who just looks like MC'mom
 
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The update that is wrapping up 0.6--a Meredith update. The one after that is 0.7, which will also be a Meredith update.



I hope I don't either. I've made a rough estimate what would be involved to make this change and it isn't pretty. It's not just a matter of putting references of "M0m" and "m0ther" on a variable. In the case of Meredith, there's a lot of personalized scenes that wouldn't make much sense in a Landlady context. What I will probably do is slowly migrate towards a game project that COULD have that switch flipped over several updates so that it wouldn't be so painful if I do need to break that glass in case of emergency.
Yeah i hate when games go the landlady route. Like most people in here have said i love the raw unfiltered mom/son incest talk. Thats what really makes it 10x better and i dont want to lose that here!
 

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Yeah i hate when games go the landlady route. Like most people in here have said i love the raw unfiltered mom/son incest talk. Thats what really makes it 10x better and i dont want to lose that here!
Unfortunately that's usually not up to the devs if they wanna actually be able to have their game funded
And most devs aren't rich enough or have the freetime to just not get support from players to develop a game fully raw without using Patreon/Subscribestar/Steam

Definitely think incest games should jsut have the incest talk, but make the relationship names be inputted by the player.

That way its only incest if the player makes it, but shouldn't trigger Patreon to my knowledge, since default would be Landlady. But of course also doesn't make sense when the name is Landlady, which is good cuz it means the game is designed for actual incest in mind and its not just an unofficial fan patch with no taboo talk.
 

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JorogrArt What if you could position yourself as a comic illustrator / visual artist and put subscription based model for family friendly pin-up art on subscription based websites , those who can chip in can surely do so , while sidelining the game from all the subscription based platforms and keep it for free on friendly platforms like it currently is. Similar to what alcohol companies advertise for packaged drinking water. Just saying (it's a gray area), don't know the legal aspects of it though.
 

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超越妖精,帖子:17926789,会员:3843667 said:
哥们,第一次在f95zone遇到国人,你如果想订阅作者,可以去淘宝搜虚拟支付卡,买一张5美元的(以订阅费用最低的1.5美元为例)大约要花35块,然后去论坛第一页订阅star链接注册,然后绑定虚拟充值卡,点击订阅就行了
[/引用]ok,感谢
 
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JorogrArt What if you could position yourself as a comic illustrator / visual artist and put subscription based model for family friendly pin-up art on subscription based websites , those who can chip in can surely do so , while sidelining the game from all the subscription based platforms and keep it for free on friendly platforms like it currently is. Similar to what alcohol companies advertise for packaged drinking water. Just saying (it's a gray area), don't know the legal aspects of it though.
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The update that is wrapping up 0.6--a Meredith update. The one after that is 0.7, which will also be a Meredith update.



I hope I don't either. I've made a rough estimate what would be involved to make this change and it isn't pretty. It's not just a matter of putting references of "M0m" and "m0ther" on a variable. In the case of Meredith, there's a lot of personalized scenes that wouldn't make much sense in a Landlady context. What I will probably do is slowly migrate towards a game project that COULD have that switch flipped over several updates so that it wouldn't be so painful if I do need to break that glass in case of emergency.
There are games like zombie's retreat which let players edit the relationship between mc and the girls. Maybe you can add some similiar features into the game? If people find default landlady role doesn't make sense, I am pretty sure they know how to fix it.
 
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Unfortunately that's usually not up to the devs if they wanna actually be able to have their game funded
And most devs aren't rich enough or have the freetime to just not get support from players to develop a game fully raw without using Patreon/Subscribestar/Steam

Definitely think incest games should jsut have the incest talk, but make the relationship names be inputted by the player.

That way its only incest if the player makes it, but shouldn't trigger Patreon to my knowledge, since default would be Landlady. But of course also doesn't make sense when the name is Landlady, which is good cuz it means the game is designed for actual incest in mind and its not just an unofficial fan patch with no taboo talk.
Yeah like "Cum for your landlady, baby". "Please cum into your birth place".

But.. I think it's still gonna have problems for patreon I think. The best way is to follow timestamps Timestamps game model, which have two separate scripts for default mode in patreon and for incest "unofficial" patch.

Just please check it JorogrArt . It's also made in Unity Engine. But you have to release this patch with another fake profile. It won't be a problem for you in terms of paths or renders. Just you have to spend some more time in writing which should be okay for you to gain extra income from patreon. This way, you will keep both incest fans and patreon happy.
 
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Most players are playing for the mom. Im playing this mainly mainly for the raw incest talk instead of landlady sh*t.
Yeah i hate when games go the landlady route. Like most people in here have said i love the raw unfiltered mom/son incest talk. Thats what really makes it 10x better and i dont want to lose that here!
I wholeheartedly agree. I recently did a full playtest of the entire game and flagged a lot of different things that would need special attention for a hypothetical "patch." If I watered those down, it would ruin a lot of what is fun about those relationships.

You can follow the game called "timestamps" model. In that game, the patch is not just to replace Landlady/Mom, But also change the whole script towards raw incest talk like "Suck me Boobs like when you are a baby" or "go into where you come from".
I'm not an expert on how to make a patch, but I've researched how to go about it as an exercise of the mind. There are folks who have done translations so someone making a patch would likely pursue that process. I dunno, I'm a total dumbass on this topic...

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Unfortunately that's usually not up to the devs if they wanna actually be able to have their game funded
And most devs aren't rich enough or have the freetime to just not get support from players to develop a game fully raw without using Patreon/Subscribestar/Steam
Having the game "funded" in 2025 is not a priority to me. I'm making this game because I enjoy making it and I publish it because others find value from it.

Having the game be funded would have been more of a priority in, say, 2018 when things were a lot more free on the internet. Years ago, I could commission VA sound effects & vocals quite easily with PayPal, but PayPal has cracked down on transactions of an NSFW nature. The last transaction I had with a VA I had to resort to Amazon gift cards and someone from Amazon immediately called me to ask me why I was buying them. It just seems like there is so much more scrutiny put upon how money moves around these days that it's not even worth the hassle. I have accepted the fact that I have to make do with the VA sounds I've already purchased.

JorogrArt What if you could position yourself as a comic illustrator / visual artist and put subscription based model for family friendly pin-up art on subscription based websites , those who can chip in can surely do so , while sidelining the game from all the subscription based platforms and keep it for free on friendly platforms like it currently is. Similar to what alcohol companies advertise for packaged drinking water. Just saying (it's a gray area), don't know the legal aspects of it though.
Honestly, that sounds like an ethical nightmare.

I'm sympathetic to those who want to keep games like this out of the hands of minors. I can age gate my game and my Discord server, but ultimately my tools are limited.

Setting up a PG-13 Patreon page with pinups that functions as a rabbit hole that leads to a taboo 1nc3st game seems to be one of the worst decisions I could make.

I'm not saying that's what you're proposing, it just seems like the practical outcome that would come from that approach.

There are games like zombie's retreat which let players edit the relationship between mc and the girls. Maybe you can add some similiar features into the game? If people find default landlady role doesn't make sense, I am pretty sure they know how to fix it.
I don't love the "input this character's relationship" approach because the start of the game then becomes more of a survey and less of a game. I think the start of Five of a Kind where you meet Meredith and Brooke as like an extended introduction scene is pitch perfect and I don't want to mess with it at all.

"What is Meredith's relationship?"
Player inputs "mother"

"What is the short version of Meredith's relationship?
Player inputs "Mom"

"What is Brooke's relationship?"
Player inputs "ssister"

<Oh shit, I typed that wrong. What the fuck is "ssister?">
 

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I wholeheartedly agree. I recently did a full playtest of the entire game and flagged a lot of different things that would need special attention for a hypothetical "patch." If I watered those down, it would ruin a lot of what is fun about those relationships.



I'm not an expert on how to make a patch, but I've researched how to go about it as an exercise of the mind. There are folks who have done translations so someone making a patch would likely pursue that process. I dunno, I'm a total dumbass on this topic...

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Having the game "funded" in 2025 is not a priority to me. I'm making this game because I enjoy making it and I publish it because others find value from it.

Having the game be funded would have been more of a priority in, say, 2018 when things were a lot more free on the internet. Years ago, I could commission VA sound effects & vocals quite easily with PayPal, but PayPal has cracked down on transactions of an NSFW nature. The last transaction I had with a VA I had to resort to Amazon gift cards and someone from Amazon immediately called me to ask me why I was buying them. It just seems like there is so much more scrutiny put upon how money moves around these days that it's not even worth the hassle. I have accepted the fact that I have to make do with the VA sounds I've already purchased.



Honestly, that sounds like an ethical nightmare.

I'm sympathetic to those who want to keep games like this out of the hands of minors. I can age gate my game and my Discord server, but ultimately my tools are limited.

Setting up a PG-13 Patreon page with pinups that functions as a rabbit hole that leads to a taboo 1nc3st game seems to be one of the worst decisions I could make.

I'm not saying that's what you're proposing, it just seems like the practical outcome that would come from that approach.



I don't love the "input this character's relationship" approach because the start of the game then becomes more of a survey and less of a game. I think the start of Five of a Kind where you meet Meredith and Brooke as like an extended introduction scene is pitch perfect and I don't want to mess with it at all.

"What is Meredith's relationship?"
Player inputs "mother"

"What is the short version of Meredith's relationship?
Player inputs "Mom"

"What is Brooke's relationship?"
Player inputs "ssister"

<Oh shit, I typed that wrong. What the fuck is "ssister?">
I'm glad you arent willing to sacrifice the vision! I love a dev who stands by their games true vision!
 

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I'm not an expert on how to make a patch, but I've researched how to go about it as an exercise of the mind. There are folks who have done translations so someone making a patch would likely pursue that process. I dunno, I'm a total dumbass on this topic...
My simple thought is having a file (IE iamanadult.txt) located on the desktop or game dir that triggers a binary gate that if not found only allows the the player to walk around the house (and not go outside) as well as not have any of the characters or quest items spawn/ discoverable. May also not hard code dialogue references (use a look up table ) in case they are actually doing brute force searches of code. Which I dont think they doing. I think its all just simple keywords in the game listing, images, and user reports of violation.
 

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I'm glad you arent willing to sacrifice the vision! I love a dev who stands by their games true vision!
Yeah, i have seen some games sacrificing their intended ways and removing incest from the game to make money instead of their passion. I can understand, they are doing games as a occupation. But, i'm sorry, i only like games when they are written with passion and their original intentions instead of taking steps just to letting it publish on platforms. This problem is nothing new. From many old years, even the book authors also faced this problem because of publishers. But, some authors never bend to them and released with small publishers or even their own but never let their passion stop to react it to the public.
 

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Having the game be funded would have been more of a priority in, say, 2018 when things were a lot more free on the internet. Years ago, I could commission VA sound effects & vocals quite easily with PayPal, but PayPal has cracked down on transactions of an NSFW nature. The last transaction I had with a VA I had to resort to Amazon gift cards and someone from Amazon immediately called me to ask me why I was buying them. It just seems like there is so much more scrutiny put upon how money moves around these days that it's not even worth the hassle. I have accepted the fact that I have to make do with the VA sounds I've already purchased.
Noo, shit, damn companies nowadays, why can’t they just leave everyone alone, damn it, seriously such a drag with those companies :,c.. But well, hopefully what you have will be enough to achieve a good result..
 
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