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He didn't have to cut us off.
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Made out like it never happened and that we were nothing
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"A masterclass"?
The game was pretty good, but hardly what all other games should aspire to be.
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Have to respectfully disagree here Cookie."A masterclass"?
I rate these lewd scenes very highly and think if more games aspired to get their level of animations and sexy sounds, they would be much better. Renders are also quite impressive.
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The statement seemed to refer to the game as a whole; it never specified lewd scenes. It was buggy, there were huge plot holes and/or twists that unnecessarily complicated things, and there were some points where IIRC the English was a little rough. While I agree with your assessment of the lewd scenes generally, I stand by what I said for the game itself.Have to respectfully disagree here Cookie.
I rate these lewd scenes very highly and think if more games aspired to get their level of animations and sexy sounds, they would be much better. Renders are also quite impressive.
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I automatically wanted to agree with the "masterpiece" statement, but...
Well, I remember liking it very much - especially the characters, and especially for its time.
But I also remember it leaving me wanting.
OK, both of you have convinced me to play it again - just have to find the time.
Had no clue this was from 2019 - its quite impressive. Models were on point for sure, sad the Dev poofed tho.
Anytime I see the animation of the girl walking on OP I'm just instinctively reading "haters gonna hate" below lol.
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You really shouldn't be asking for suggestions of other games in this game's thread. FYI, that's against Site Rule #2.4, and I've seen posts deleted and heard of warnings being given. Instead, you should ask this on the Recommendations forum, set up for exactly these kinds of questions. If you search and don't find this question asked there already, you can create a new thread. If you create a thread, I'd recommend linking to the OP of this game as reference for anyone who may not have played this game.
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You need to consider timeframe too when you wanna judge if it's a masterclass or not.
From my perspective, it is a masterclass for render/animation. The game as a whole was not that great but good overall.
The flaw it had is it was mostly comedic but not seriously story focused.
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I've always held that the animations are absolutely its strongest feature, which obviously is very good for an adult game. As for the rest, I guess I'll continue to disagree. I am understanding of someone who hasn't developed well enough as a writer (it's their first effort and/or they've only been writing for a few years so far). But being tolerant of missteps in writing and acknowledging the creation within the context of timeframe (as you point out) does not elevate the quality itself.
Hell, my own early poetic writing "rhymed" with identical words. It could be forgiven since I was only 7 years old at the time; but the quality itself is not improved because of my age and inexperience. A person would presume that a writer would get better in their craft over time with effort and discipline. If not, that writer should be judged as lesser — one with no real commitment to their craft, just using what's "good enough" instead of what actually improves their creation.
And I don't accept that something being comedic excuses lack of focus in story, lack of decent proofreading, or lack of reasonable beta testing to iron out a lot of the bugs. There are plenty of proofreaders on F95Zone, for instance, who are willing to work either pro bono or for quite reasonable, low fees. There are even more willing beta testers to help a dev make a more stable product. And there are tons of comedies with far more coherent plots. Airplane!, Tropic Thunder, and The Court Jester are but three examples that immediately come to mind.
Someone can still make a living (and even be considered good) as an adult game / VN creator without being as skilled at writing as others. There's no shame in that. But I believe in calling a spade a shovel and not a pitchfork. Using the term "masterclass" is highly subjective. And while I would say the quality of animations was quite good (especially for the time), I personally wouldn't praise them quite as highly as you do.
Everyone has their own opinion, and this is mine.For 2019 this game was amazing and was one of the top tier games at that time. No one really cared about a solid story then. We just wanted sexy scenarios with hot characters getting slutty and Flirty F delivered with great renders and animations for that time period. It was a fun game that didn't take itself too seriously.
It was his first game and overly critical reviews threw him off and soured his tongue for porn game development.
I honestly can't stand this trend now of games that are taking themselves too seriously and attempting to write these pathetic novellas. That most of the time aren't even that well written or engaging. All because some small loud crowd started thinking they were the Siskel and Egbert of porn games writing overly critical and unnecessary reviews and another crowd started pushing devs towards main stream recognition.
Now the market is flooded with bland boring cookie cutter vanilla games where the devs stifled creativity comes through. Sucking the life out of the game and we're dazzled by some fairly decent renders with buxom characters that feel like some poorly written teenage drama and we're all sitting here dick in hand wondering when the fucking is going to happen, because we just got done doing house chores and finishing up some home projects and just want to blow of some fucking steam and get some sleep. If I wanted to immerse myself in a story I'd go to the book store and buy a nice fictional novel by a writer with a Lit degree.
These games used to be light hearted and a fun way to blow off steam. Oppai did a good job with that.
I totally agree. This did not have Shakespearean writing nor did Michaelangelo produce the renders. It was stylized, yes, but it was FUN (and sexy). It was that way in the beginning and that still holds true today.