Others Forest of the Blue Skin [Build March v2] [Zell23]

[MrNice88]

Because the progression comes from capturing the monster girls. Honestly surprised you wouldn't know that.

Honestly the november build is a disappointment and it is a real shame. Zell had great game design decisions with both FoBS and Succubus but now with this remake we have lag issues, lack of optimisation but also bad game feel. The dash is extremely klanky to use due to stopping at the end, teleporters don't work, ladder doesn't work, and the entire system of weapons and skills make the game extremely alpha to even pre-alpha rather than a demo or beta build. It is a downgrade in every aspect.

It is extremely disappointing. Zell would need to adjust a lot of things to make this a passable build compared to the previous stable versions.

It is alpha/pre alpha at the moment... It's basically a gallery showcasing the remaster, with some new features thrown in like the orgies. To compare this to finished/ almost finished games like SA and FOBS is ridiculous.
Some teleporters and ladders obviously don't work yet, he's only just started working on it in about the last 6 months.
It doesn't need saves because there is no progression yet and capturing mechanics are still janky as he's explained in update notes before.
Zell's forte is character design and animation and not programming, FOBS he does both unlike the other games he's worked on like SA and the horror game where he just did the animations. So it may take him a while.

 

[glaskanosvki]

https://f95zone.to/threads/pixel-game-maker-mv-extractor.105950/ use this. it doesnt work like rpgm extractors it cant create a project to open with PGMMV, so u cant go to see how capture works.

holy, there's like a million unseen sprites in here. I guess zell is much farther in the animation department than i thought

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

holy, there's like a million unseen sprites in here. I guess zell is much farther in the animation department than i thought

Yeah, I figured that would be the case. Animation is Zell's forte as far as I've been told, so the fact that they've made this much progress with the animation part is both impressive and to be expected. With that in mind, programming (again, as far as I've been told) is their piano, or their mezzo forte at best.

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

I'll have this done soon, they say...30-45 minutes, they say...really living up to my name, aren't I?

Anyway, here's the guide. Sorry if the excessive color-coding is blinding, I'll make another version with less of that if it's too much for some people. It's set to Commenter for everyone, so if y'all find any new information or see an error in my work, feel free to leave your feedback. Thanks in advance, and I hope this guide helps you all out!

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LADIES, GENTLEMEN, AND PROPER PERSONS. Thanks to xj47 making a tool 2 years ago and Yuki, a savior on the previous page, imparting the rest of us with that knowledge (as well as another anonymous user that told me in the comments of the new guide, no idea if it's the same or a different person), the guide will soon be much more fleshed out with proper names and possibly new methods. The latter part WILL take a lot of testing, so if y'all could help out in any way, it would be much appreciated. You can either add new methods in the guide (it's in suggestion mode so I can affirm how much the methods work myself), tell me in the comments of the guide, DM me through F95Zone, or just email me if you really feel like it. I do have other forms of communication, so if you want to collaborate further on what may end up being an absolutely gargantuan project, then feel free to let me know through one of the main ones listed and we can discuss further.

 

[Meriance]

https://f95zone.to/threads/pixel-game-maker-mv-extractor.105950/ use this. it doesnt work like rpgm extractors it cant create a project to open with PGMMV, so u cant go to see how capture works.

why are the Shiratane Tower sprites in here too?

 

[FootBe]

with some new features thrown in like the orgies.

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

why are the Shiratane Tower sprites in here too?

I can only imagine it's because Shiratane Tower is getting cameoed in FOBS, and if so, that's really cool on Zell's part.

 

[Mr.sally]

Why can't i use the smile skill on build nov

 

[A1348B]

So if you want something like Succubus Affection or the original games you will need to wait a few years before trying this game again.

His attention is currently split between this and SA2, so I think this game's progress will immediately accelerate after that game gets released.

 

[glaskanosvki]

I can only imagine it's because Shiratane Tower is getting cameoed in FOBS, and if so, that's really cool on Zell's part.

Nah those are deffo leftovers. He probably just copied the project instead of starting from scratch

 

[A1348B]

. . . (as well as another anonymous user that told me in the comments of the new guide, no idea if it's the same or a different person) . . .

That was me. I wasn't signed into google at the time.
I also did a lot of work for the fandom wiki while it was still active, and even solved a problem that was around for years.

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

That was me. I wasn't signed into google at the time.
I also did a lot of work for the fandom wiki while it was still active, and even solved a problem that was around for years.

Oh, okay then. If that's the case, then I would greatly appreciate your help on this in the future. (I probably don't even have to ask, but I may as well be polite instead of assuming-) I did not have the chance to experience the game in the past, so I don't have nearly as much experience with what's to be expected and just the general methods of finding some of the finer details of the game out.

 

[Yuki/MidnightHowl]

The why there is leftovers of other games there is because he probably used to test the game with better resolution sprites, the ones from FOBS old are worst, so probably used this until he make the new ones. Also he can test mechanics from the other game with already made sprites and hitboxes.

 

[Lostozero]

Didn't checked the game for over 1 year, any idea from where should i start to play?

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

Didn't checked the game for over 1 year, any idea from where should i start to play?

Start with the A version, then go to the B version. The latest version is a complete remake being worked on (relatively) from the ground up, so it's very much unfinished in every way, though it's being updated roughly every month.

 

[ArhiLich]

The old version is Good.
The new version is disgusting.
The fight is very bad.
The store is closed.
There is no capture.
It is impossible to defeat the Boss.

 

[glaskanosvki]

The old version is Good.
The new version is disgusting.
The fight is very bad.
The store is closed.
There is no capture.
It is impossible to defeat the Boss.

Well yeah its basically an alpha w/ gallery

Also skill issue.

 

[Yuki/MidnightHowl]

The old version is Good.
The new version is disgusting.
The fight is very bad.
The store is closed.
There is no capture.
It is impossible to defeat the Boss.

While the old game was decent at the moment, it didnt age well, most new Side-scrollers are better (succubus affection from same developer is a good example) and if this game wanted to keep developing it needed a change, also the old engine has a limit for use thats why the game was separated, something that now can be done in 1 game.
Correction, the combat is more complex not bad, like the one in SA.
Is an alpha so many things are not implemented, like there is the icon for salamander girl from fobs b but she is not in the game yet.
The capture is there for most enemies and u can see the animations in bestiary, also this works if they kill u.
The store has the girl animation already and what do u want to build now, with 2 really easy bosses being the difficult part.
The most difficult thing for now is doing the monkey girl in no hit (and it only has 4 attacks), which achievement doesnt work and dont give anything for it.

 

[Zane Carlson]

It is alpha/pre alpha at the moment(...)he's only just started working on it in about the last 6 months.

Considering October was post 6,with November naturally being post being 7, we may already be in month 8 of development.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Yeah, I figured that would be the case. Animation is Zell's forte as far as I've been told, so the fact that they've made this much progress with the animation part is both impressive and to be expected. With that in mind, programming (again, as far as I've been told) is their piano, or their mezzo forte at best.

Like I've said in an older post, Zell will be less remembered as a dev but always as a gallery animator
(in part since that was fobs origins)