Zane Carlson

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This game is still being updated? It feels ancient by this point,I played it a while ago and liked it but I though it was finished,didnt try to do it 100% tho so I though it was finished.
Should I replay it now or wait for it to be finished? What will that be? Years?
In my opinion, THIS product is dead (as a game)...

(cutting this out to make it less wordy)

As confirmation of my words - the author ALREADY let it slip that he is working on Shironoyakata and SuccubusAffection2 and this news is on the dlsite page...

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To put it simply—don’t expect THIS to ever reach a full release. Treat it as a tech demo and nothing more, but definitely not as a game.
Whoa there, back up a lil bit.
I feel like we need to clear up some misconceptions here.

"Zell Accounts"
First up that DLsite page is not Zell's page but their coding partner Ansala; please don't get them confused.
Zell updates themselves on .

"State of Builds"
Next you got the whole conception of the builds all wrong.
First we had initial conception, then the A and B version and lastly today the REMAKE.

Initially the game was supposed to be just a gallery for animations with the added gameplay elements only coming later.
And even then there was a separate line of build for just testing. (Fanbox posts from roughly April 2018 to December 2021)

Version A and B are not experimental builds but in fact the fully realized projects, at the time, with new areas, enemies and animations added.
As stated before the reason for why there is a divide with A and B is that Zell actually reached the engines limits, similar to Scott Cawthon with UCN, resulting in having to make a sorta part 2 of the project.
They canceled it realizing that it would be better to find a new engine to work on the project again.

The Horry Gallery Test Builds were part of that process of learning to work with a new engine.
But their dev partner Ansala didn't like the direction of the theme went and they decided to split it.
Ansala would then incorporate it as SAs sequel while Zell would take it more into a horror scenario. ( )

And new here we are at the Remake.
Since that conclusion they have not just returned to fobs but also decided to fully remake it!
Including the February post, the last 10 updates Zell posted test/debug/tech builds with an update to what they worked on in the last month with remastered animations for returning enemies and even new ones.
They want to improve the short comings the old fobs had by making this into an actual game now.
Zell even mentioned in the January update that they wanted the February update to be the release version and I must say it is It's gotten really close it it with in my opinion only needing the tutorial to be implemented now.

"What is different?"
Now I could no possibly count off all the things but the most major additions are:
- 3 save slots instead of just 1 (title screen first option is new game, second is saves)
- a menu including settings, bestiary, etc. (access by pressing Tab)
- a map of the current area with fast travel to save points

I suggest you to and read up the changes from each month; and keep in mind to translate the page. (bottom of the page leads to next post in line)

So In Conclusion:
I doubt the game "never getting finished" is a long shot but I doubt it will get an actual ending; I'd imagine it just concludes with you having 100% it.
SA should NOT compared to FOBS aside from art.
Sequels are currently too ambitious to be discussed as of this moment.
Therefor, enjoy the current builds and move on to something else until the end of the month when a new update drops.

Hope this cleared most of it but if you got any more questions you can always reply to this.
Have a great day! :D
 

Zane Carlson

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There is literally thousands of hentai games all over the place but how many is there a good (games) with actually in deph animations, good music, graphics/art?
...
This fobs remake so far i only checked like twice, dont want too much spoilers till they "finish it" but quality was high enough to be hyped.
My guess would be they don't want to put effort into it.
Shame really.
Churn something out, maybe get some bucks and leave or keep doing bare essentials until you decide the game is finished.
At least I know that some stop at that if they know it will lead nowhere.
In a conversation I once had with EvilDog they revealed that Punk-O-matic 2 was initially gonna be a porn game called Porn-O-matic but the question about what gameplay would be good fit made the project change trajectory to a sequel to Punk-O-matic.

As for the FOBS Remake it is ok to check the February update as it is mostly finished now.
Have fun! :LOL:
 

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme

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Whoa there, back up a lil bit.
I feel like we need to clear up some misconceptions here.

"Zell Accounts"
First up that DLsite page is not Zell's page but their coding partner Ansala; please don't get them confused.
Zell updates themselves on .

"State of Builds"
Next you got the whole conception of the builds all wrong.
First we had initial conception, then the A and B version and lastly today the REMAKE.

Initially the game was supposed to be just a gallery for animations with the added gameplay elements only coming later.
And even then there was a separate line of build for just testing. (Fanbox posts from roughly April 2018 to December 2021)

Version A and B are not experimental builds but in fact the fully realized projects, at the time, with new areas, enemies and animations added.
As stated before the reason for why there is a divide with A and B is that Zell actually reached the engines limits, similar to Scott Cawthon with UCN, resulting in having to make a sorta part 2 of the project.
They canceled it realizing that it would be better to find a new engine to work on the project again.

The Horry Gallery Test Builds were part of that process of learning to work with a new engine.
But their dev partner Ansala didn't like the direction of the theme went and they decided to split it.
Ansala would then incorporate it as SAs sequel while Zell would take it more into a horror scenario. ( )

And new here we are at the Remake.
Since that conclusion they have not just returned to fobs but also decided to fully remake it!
Including the February post, the last 10 updates Zell posted test/debug/tech builds with an update to what they worked on in the last month with remastered animations for returning enemies and even new ones.
They want to improve the short comings the old fobs had by making this into an actual game now.
Zell even mentioned in the January update that they wanted the February update to be the release version and I must say it is It's gotten really close it it with in my opinion only needing the tutorial to be implemented now.

"What is different?"
Now I could no possibly count off all the things but the most major additions are:
- 3 save slots instead of just 1 (title screen first option is new game, second is saves)
- a menu including settings, bestiary, etc. (access by pressing Tab)
- a map of the current area with fast travel to save points

I suggest you to and read up the changes from each month; and keep in mind to translate the page. (bottom of the page leads to next post in line)

So In Conclusion:
I doubt the game "never getting finished" is a long shot but I doubt it will get an actual ending; I'd imagine it just concludes with you having 100% it.
SA should NOT compared to FOBS aside from art.
Sequels are currently too ambitious to be discussed as of this moment.
Therefor, enjoy the current builds and move on to something else until the end of the month when a new update drops.

Hope this cleared most of it but if you got any more questions you can always reply to this.
Have a great day! :D
Got DAYUM. Bro pulled out the entire college lecture-
 
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Zane Carlson

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Unfortunately no. I have a guide for what is and isn't capturable linked in my signature (which you should see below this message), as well as a few other tips, tidbits, bits and bobs.
Hey I've been looking through your guide again and I was wondering why you kept the Harpies, Bees, Fenrir and mush girls even tho the x-out hearts suggest they can't be captured?
read the Walkthrough
Bro the guide maker already responded 2 minutes before you :ROFLMAO:
 

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme

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Hey I've been looking through your guide again and I was wondering why you kept the Harpies, Bees, Fenrir and mush girls even tho the x-out hearts suggest they can't be captured?
Since I'm just going back and editing the guide every time a new build comes out, I'm leaving them there for if/when they become capturable later. It's also so people who read the guide don't ask whether or not I forgot about/know if a certain monster can or cannot be captured.

The overall goal is to make it so the only questions that get asked are how to get somewhere and the majority of genuine suggestions are for if I genuinely got my information wrong.
 

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme

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I guess you could change At Large to uncapturable? idk
It's good as it is rn. :)
I might change that for clarity's sake knowing that people might not read that note in the beginning, but At Large is supposed to be a way of saying "they're not capturable yet, but they probably will be eventually." I'd rather use a term like "uncapturable" if there's ever a monster in the game that we know for certain isn't and never will be capturable.
 
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Has zell given any information about the horror game? I think all of the animations were done and he was putting the game together but I doesnt remember how long ago I read this.
 

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Has zell given any information about the horror game? I think all of the animations were done and he was putting the game together but I doesnt remember how long ago I read this.
Currently on hiatus. (you can check more details in the last section of the post below).

(Stealing someone's work -again and still in a lazy way-)
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In my opinion, THIS product is dead (as a game), and I’ll now try to explain my reasoning.
The first half of the game is a test of mechanics and new features. The second part (separate) is rich in content (though shorter in duration). It feels like THIS game (or games) serves as a training ground for the developer, where they experiment with new mechanics and see how they work, only to later implement them in proper games. A good example is Succubus Affection, which was released as a fully functional and playable game from start to finish. But this product seems neglected, and the developer will likely never finish it (it’s already been over 5 years). From my perspective, it hasn’t moved forward at all. Recently, when
Karl Speidel asked-what’s new in update, AverageSteve replied- that they’re testing new AI -_-, which only proves that this is a TEST for implementation into a completely new (different) game.
Otherwise, even a simple question arises - why did Succubus Affection come out so quickly (about which little was known), and THIS product still can't reach release and in general it is not clear in % how much work has been done (90%? 50%? 0.000001%? -_- HOW MUCH?). It's worth thinking about.

As confirmation of my words - the author ALREADY let it slip that he is working on Shironoyakata and SuccubusAffection2 and this news is on the dlsite page and he has clearly been working on it for a long time, i.e. another proof of what was said above.
And the question is asked again - is there no time for THIS product? Because it is a TESTING GROUND (I repeat myself already)...
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To put it simply—don’t expect THIS to ever reach a full release. Treat it as a tech demo and nothing more, but definitely not as a game.
Shiro No yakata and Succubus Affection aren't zell exclusive games.
That's Ansala.

If you need a history lesson here ya go...
https://f95zone.to/threads/forest-of-the-blue-skin-build-feburary-zell23.14195/post-9272461
 

Letestroll

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Shiro No yakata and Succubus Affection aren't zell exclusive games.
That's Ansala.

If you need a history lesson here ya go...
https://f95zone.to/threads/forest-of-the-blue-skin-build-feburary-zell23.14195/post-9272461
Well then, I never really went too in depth with the game development of these games, and woaw I just got a whoel lot of info from that.

Thanks for sharing the URL for that post and props to TheUnsaid for such a well written and comprehensible explanation on the situation.
 

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Hello, I have a question.

Every time the new update on the game comes out, I always download it but just get to see the new stuff added in, without the demo itself...

How do I get to play the real game demo with the upcoming updates?
 
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