Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.2b] [Mity]

[Lord Mega Satan]

Yes and no. The character keeps hopping, but he meets some characters again, some of whom do recognize him even though he is in another body, others however don't.

ah thanks, but then why does the mc even has a name? the people i see it using are the spirits sometime. plus the pregnancies would be awkward if the body owner does not remember them

 

[bigjay720]

so is there a point where "real mc" meets the girls? or are we just going to keep body hopping? because otherwise love route kind of feel without a point

The closest the ladies are to meeting the "Real MC" is the Post Story.
MC is, technically, in a different body but, the person was a brand new Airbender who did something stupid and ended up in a coma.

 

[Basi6129]

ah thanks, but then why does the mc even has a name? the people i see it using are the spirits sometime. plus the pregnancies would be awkward if the body owner does not remember them

That's mostly a framing device. You can project yourself into the MC by giving him your name, or roleplaying as Master Chief - whatever you like. Aside from that the MC makes the writing easier.

Playing as just some rando who coincidentally walks into all the Avatar/Korra characters, gains their trust and corrupts them, would be daring from a writing perspective - much nicer to have him just possess characters who are already there - thus we can easily bridge space and time and skip the hole "Who the hell is that creep?" part.

Couldn't we just play as these characters to begin with and drop the MC? Sure, but all of them would have to act out of character for the game to take place, they also would have to suffer from amnesia for their would be no reason to tell them things the characters know, but the player is unaware of and lastly their stories would be disconnected cause they are different people, instead of having a single grander campaign.

Having an isekaid MC just erases a bunch of inconsistencies and questions that would arise otherwise.

 

[Lord Mega Satan]

That's mostly a framing device. You can project yourself into the MC by giving him your name, or roleplaying as Master Chief - whatever you like. Aside from that the MC makes the writing easier.

Playing as just some rando who coincidentally walks into all the Avatar/Korra characters, gains their trust and corrupts them, would be daring from a writing perspective - much nicer to have him just possess characters who are already there - thus we can easily bridge space and time and skip the hole "Who the hell is that creep?" part.

Couldn't we just play as these characters to begin with and drop the MC? Sure, but all of them would have to act out of character for the game to take place, they also would have to suffer from amnesia for their would be no reason to tell them things the characters know, but the player is unaware of and lastly their stories would be disconnected cause they are different people, instead of having a single grander campaign.

Having an isekaid MC just erases a bunch of inconsistencies and questions that would arise otherwise.

i mean there is an inconsistency, If you pregnant Katara or not it does not matter, because that child is never mentioned, unless she strangled it upon birth and now keeping it a secret from us

oh and Katara also said she only loved mc and belonged to him, but then she married someone else, and did not even mention anything about that when they met again

 

[VinnneV]

I don't know if there are more people like me or if it's just me, but I think the highlight of the game is chapter 2 where we become Zuko. I even wanted a game just about Zuko and Azula. Zucest supremacy >>>>

 

[Basi6129]

i mean there is an inconsistency, If you pregnant Katara or not it does not matter, because that child is never mentioned, unless she strangled it upon birth and now keeping it a secret from us

oh and Katara also said she only loved mc and belonged to him, but then she married someone else, and did not even mention anything about that when they met again

Well MC tells her, that she is to move on when he leaves for his world.
And the pregnancy is kinda eye raising, but remember it's not even MCs child, he's in Aaang's body, therefor it's Aang's child and Aang is the one Katara canonically marries anyway. (Also the pregnancy stuff is only in game because a player may be into preggo stuff - therefor it matters even if it doesn't storywise ).

All of this could be addressed but it doesn't really have to. From Katara's perspective the MC is the essence of some otherworldly being on a mission from the gods, who temporarily inhabitated the body of the Avatar Aang, a guy she was interested in to begin with and than left to return at a later date in another body. I have no problem with her moving on in any way.

But aside from me being able to hand wave this away and regardless of whether you agree with me or find this very distracting or something in between - it's still a result of Mity's writing choices, and not a result of having some weird story elements imposed on him that would arise without the MC. So that's something I guess.

 

[TrueJackal]

so is there a point where "real mc" meets the girls? or are we just going to keep body hopping? because otherwise love route kind of feel without a point

Technically yes. In one of the endings, a very old Ikki shows up at the MC's home in the future. Nothing sexy, just to say hi.

But remember, the spirits in this game can't send your body back in time. They can only move your spirit through time.

 

[Basi6129]

I don't know if there are more people like me or if it's just me, but I think the highlight of the game is chapter 2 where we become Zuko. I even wanted a game just about Zuko and Azula. Zucest supremacy >>>>

Well Sir. I had never actually played the chapter 2 love route - because they are siblings and jikes. But this latest comment finally got me curious enough and I started it. At the moment I've gotten up to the point when they are playing spin the bottle and I can already testify. This route is really enjoyable, it's way more developed than the slave route, and it's simply hilariously written.

Definitely a highlight.

 

[F1forhalp]

point is, this 'hopping' to somewhen needs an available body at the target time/location. that basically denies the 'original MC' to meet them in person, well except the ancient Ikki, because she's around long enough to catch up in time with this 'original MC' at the very end.

see this is why you don't effin' jump back in time! it messes up everything from that point.
big wholesome snakey snake even tells explicitely, it had to fix quite a bunch of paradoxes it's splitsies had created with all the time hopping.

*edit* found a typo. now it's MINE.

 

[Lord Mega Satan]

Well MC tells her, that she is to move on when he leaves for his world.
And the pregnancy is kinda eye raising, but remember it's not even MCs child, he's in Aaang's body, therefor it's Aang's child and Aang is the one Katara canonically marries anyway. (Also the pregnancy stuff is only in game because a player may be into preggo stuff - therefor it matters even if it doesn't storywise ).

All of this could be addressed but it doesn't really have to. From Katara's perspective the MC is the essence of some otherworldly being on a mission from the gods, who temporarily inhabitated the body of the Avatar Aang, a guy she was interested in to begin with and than left to return at a later date in another body. I have no problem with her moving on in any way.

But aside from me being able to hand wave this away and regardless of whether you agree with me or find this very distracting or something in between - it's still a result of Mity's writing choices, and not a result of having some weird story elements imposed on him that would arise without the MC. So that's something I guess.

hey nah, i was just curious because it creates a lot inconsistencies with the love Route, like with Toph if you marry her, she will say they are still married and Lin is their daughter, but not explanation is about Suyin. it kind of feel incomplete since Mc and girls keep saying they love each other more than anything in the world, so i feel slave route would probably be main route of the game

 

[Basi6129]

hey nah, i was just curious because it creates a lot inconsistencies with the love Route, like with Toph if you marry her, she will say they are still married and Lin is their daughter, but not explanation is about Suyin. it kind of feel incomplete since Mc and girls keep saying they love each other more than anything in the world, so i feel slave route would probably be main route of the game

From what I can see at the moment it's probably the other way around, since the love routes have been developed further ^^. But I'd guess the intention is for them to be equal branches - however that will supposedly work ...

 

[Lord Mega Satan]

From what I can see at the moment it's probably the other way around, since the love routes have been developed further ^^. But I'd guess the intention is for them to be equal branches - however that will supposedly work ...

i mean mc or any of the the girl do not seem to be dedicated to each others, they make big promises but when they are not each other they just go their own way, the only connection they seem to have feels sexual, i guess its because of the attempt to merge Avatar canon with Game's universe. but hey i am not complaining i love the game it's been a journey, these can easily be fixed by adding few extra dialogues or changing few already existing. plus would love to know what to all the girls we met^^

 

[Basi6129]

i mean mc or any of the the girl do not seem to be dedicated to each others, they make big promises but when they are not each other they just go their own way, the only connection they seem to have feels sexual, i guess its because of the attempt to merge Avatar canon with Game's universe. but hey i am not complaining i love the game it's been a journey, these can easily be fixed by adding few extra dialogues or changing few already existing. plus would love to know what to all the girls we met^^

You could also argue they form an especially deep connection, since they don't seem to be preferential towards a particular body that the MC is possessing. Granted it's not developed that far for all girls, but for Katara at least it is.

 

[VinnneV]

Well Sir. I had never actually played the chapter 2 love route - because they are siblings and jikes. But this latest comment finally got me curious enough and I started it. At the moment I've gotten up to the point when they are playing spin the bottle and I can already testify. This route is really enjoyable, it's way more developed than the slave route, and it's simply hilariously written.

Definitely a highlight.

I've always been a fan of the sibling romance trope.

Zuko and Azula have the most interesting relationship in the series. They grew up together, know each other unbelievably well, and were once happy. They were also raised to be enemies and nearly killed each other.

On the fateful, infamous night he went to her room. They were all alone, and she was so close - too close. Her voice, her movements, her stare… everything was as far from a normal sibling interaction as possible. It is all there.

But most people will never see it for what it is. And for what it could be.

And this is all explored in this chapter, it's much better than following the slave route where you just happen to fuck the characters and move on to the next chapter... :v

 

[Rockroser]

Im wondering now if the route choice in one book has any effect on the following books... Does anyone know? Before i try testing it for myself.