death705

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We're reaching levels of Netori that shouldn't even be possible.

"I want to be a sperm inside of this man's balls so I can get ahead of his penis and impregnate the girl he's fucking before he can"
I don't think I'd personally go that far lol, I just like stories that switch things up for the characters in interesting ways and forcing a straight male into the body of a woman fits that criteria for me and if the dev were interested(they're likely not) it is a story route that has basically already been setup, that said obviously I'd want it to just be optional as I know most people would probably avoid that route
 

Shad0wB

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And what's up with the topic of "voicing" FET through AI training based on VA voices from the series ? Apart from the questionable legal status of such "audio" - from what I remember - Toph's voice (Michaela Jill Murphy|) in particular didn't sound good. But maybe someone will put something sensible together (someday) and - upload the files, even for self-compilation... What a beauty dreams ...
 
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And what's up with the topic of "voicing" FET through AI training based on VA voices from the series ? Apart from the questionable legal status of such "audio" - from what I remember - Toph's voice (Michaela Jill Murphy|) in particular didn't sound good. But maybe someone will put something sensible together (someday) and - upload the files, even for self-compilation... What a beauty dreams ...
Sure, using ai to voice characters in fan games can lead to legal disputes, but, let's be honest, it's a great idea!
 
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And what's up with the topic of "voicing" FET through AI training based on VA voices from the series ? Apart from the questionable legal status of such "audio" - from what I remember - Toph's voice (Michaela Jill Murphy|) in particular didn't sound good. But maybe someone will put something sensible together (someday) and - upload the files, even for self-compilation... What a beauty dreams ...
Sure, using ai to voice characters in fan games can lead to legal disputes, but, let's be honest, it's a great idea!
I messed around with some of the AI voice lines with 11.AI a while back. The free version made some okay dialogue, but it required multiple takes and lots of editing to get anything decent. I'm sure, inevitably, one day we'll see AI voices in games like this, but I think that's still a few years off at the very least. The commercial aspect and licensing voices is going to be the biggest hurdle those companies will have to over come.
 
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I messed around with some of the AI voice lines with 11.AI a while back. The free version made some okay dialogue, but it required multiple takes and lots of editing to get anything decent. I'm sure, inevitably, one day we'll see AI voices in games like this, but I think that's still a few years off at the very least. The commercial aspect and licensing voices is going to be the biggest hurdle those companies will have to over come.
It is no problem to use ai to voice fan games, after all, they are played by themselves, but if it involves commercial licensing, it is impossible in any case, which means that you have to compete for profits with the original work official, which is not something they can accept in any case.
 

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And what's up with the topic of "voicing" FET through AI training based on VA voices from the series ? Apart from the questionable legal status of such "audio" - from what I remember - Toph's voice (Michaela Jill Murphy|) in particular didn't sound good. But maybe someone will put something sensible together (someday) and - upload the files, even for self-compilation... What a beauty dreams ...
You'd turn this game into a 30gb download with all the required voice lines.
 

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It is no problem to use ai to voice fan games, after all, they are played by themselves, but if it involves commercial licensing, it is impossible in any case, which means that you have to compete for profits with the original work official, which is not something they can accept in any case.
You're not entirely right - while in the case of AAA productions it would be only a matter of (as I suppose) price, in the case of FET and other "fan" projects, let's call them - with a strong emphasis on adult content - there will be the aspect of associating a person with a voice and - the game, I don't think many actors would be particularly happy with the fact that they are associated with projects like FET... even if they were fans themselves ;)
 

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You'd turn this game into a 30gb download with all the required voice lines.
Maybe 20 years ago it would be a problem, but now ? How big was the installation version of (already quite a few years old) GTA V, or The Witcher 3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 (new), or even BG 3 - not to mention the monstrous 60+ GB patches ? In any case - I would download it anyway ;)
 
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Maybe 20 years ago it would be a problem, but now ? How big was the installation version of (already quite a few years old) GTA V, or The Witcher 3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 (new), or even BG 3 - not to mention the monstrous 60+ GB patches ? In any case - I would download it anyway ;)
Audio hasn't really had the same technological leaps some other formats have. And there's a lot of people playing VN's because their potatoes can't play anything heavier.

As an example, one of the biggest VN's on the site had someone asking earlier how do they work around an out of memory error. That game is only 10gb or so last time I remember downloading it.
 

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game wouldn't gain anything from voicing it, tbh i play any 'voiced' games mostly with voices muted, no music, just allowing effects on low volume is quite enough. FET wasn't really designed and written with voices in mind, else they would likely have tried from early versions on.
also there's the constant issue with synch if someone decides to fast through a scene. common downer for anything voiced, barely can be done.. ok there's the 'mute skipping' solution and one could use multiple streams for several scene speeds, but that's not a really good solution to that. sound files would grow huge with no real improvement.
sure i would agree to a bit more variety in the existing SFX, i mean, as example, any slapping sound is the exact same file, so it seems.
 

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game wouldn't gain anything from voicing it, tbh i play any 'voiced' games mostly with voices muted, no music, just allowing effects on low volume is quite enough. FET wasn't really designed and written with voices in mind, else they would likely have tried from early versions on.
also there's the constant issue with synch if someone decides to fast through a scene. common downer for anything voiced, barely can be done.. ok there's the 'mute skipping' solution and one could use multiple streams for several scene speeds, but that's not a really good solution to that. sound files would grow huge with no real improvement.
sure i would agree to a bit more variety in the existing SFX, i mean, as example, any slapping sound is the exact same file, so it seems.
You are right in that. After sounding it would be necessary to think not only about synchronizing scenes but also - some animation of mouth movement and further - face, which could lead to FET parodying itself - look what happens with animations and lip synchronization in AAA games ... and producers of such have huge budgets and the most powerful technology. Maybe FET should stay as it is ...
 
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Interesting thing - I've been wondering lately - why do cartoonists give characters completely non-anatomical BIG HEADS? I understand that children's cartoons are the overwhelming majority of all cartoons, but - wouldn't it be better to maintain some boundaries of reason ? While ATLA and TLoK maintain some boundaries in this regard - Marty went all out - especially when it comes to book 3 and Toph - sometimes it borders on unintentional funny... Not to mention 99% of drawn porn that can be found on the web. I don't like the stupidity created by AI, but - I have to admit - it can sometimes do something that fits reality better than it seems. I mention this because I happened to see characters from ATLA and TLoK created by AI and - apart from some monsters from rule 34 sites - it even looked good ;) Is this the future of the industry ? I hope not though...
 

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game wouldn't gain anything from voicing it, tbh i play any 'voiced' games mostly with voices muted, no music, just allowing effects on low volume is quite enough. FET wasn't really designed and written with voices in mind, else they would likely have tried from early versions on.
also there's the constant issue with synch if someone decides to fast through a scene. common downer for anything voiced, barely can be done.. ok there's the 'mute skipping' solution and one could use multiple streams for several scene speeds, but that's not a really good solution to that. sound files would grow huge with no real improvement.
sure i would agree to a bit more variety in the existing SFX, i mean, as example, any slapping sound is the exact same file, so it seems.
The issues around the dev of Snow Daze aside, I really did like the voice acting in that game. I think VAs can really add to the quality of the games if it's done well.
 
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The issues around the dev of Snow Daze aside, I really did like the voice acting in that game. I think VAs can really add to the quality of the games if it's done well.
right, if a dev creates a project with voicing in mind from the beginning, and has the muscle to do that extra (very large) amount of work, the outcome can be quite nice.
i did play Snow Daze the second time with voices not muted, because wanted a slow burn with scenes actually playing out, and that was good enough. on the first (the ok what's the story like) playthrough i clicked through the scenes and was happy about the Mute because well ykno.
i think retrospectively voicing a game that didn't come with that plan in the development creates more problems than doing it from the start, that's why i don't see benefits in it for FET.
 

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Before I forget - @IdarksoulsI - there is still no "live" wedding with Korra and Jinora - only information that such an event took place, and then the game goes straight to the epilogue. Yes - you can watch a film of the wedding in the villa on Ember Island but - it's not the same ;))) Of course we are talking about version 1.1.2b Maybe report it to Marty ?
 

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Can't enter Desna's and Eska's room, I have finished all the events, and kya has appeared 'back of the game' in the festival, I have done all the events I think, only I Can't enter the room with out knocking, is there a specific time i have to go or something? I have done all the events with them where i knock the door, i cant do the enter one, is it not in the update yet?
 

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Can't enter Desna's and Eska's room, I have finished all the events, and kya has appeared 'back of the game' in the festival, I have done all the events I think, only I Can't enter the room with out knocking, is there a specific time i have to go or something? I have done all the events with them where i knock the door, i cant do the enter one, is it not in the update yet?
Have you tried knocking several times?
 

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Can't enter Desna's and Eska's room, I have finished all the events, and kya has appeared 'back of the game' in the festival, I have done all the events I think, only I Can't enter the room with out knocking, is there a specific time i have to go or something? I have done all the events with them where i knock the door, i cant do the enter one, is it not in the update yet?
You can't enter without knocking yet, maybe in the next updates
 
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So, is Toph uncharacteristically stacked in the real game, or is her having tits on the banner just a fakeout to keep people from attacking the game over there being Loli in it when seeing the banner in passing. (I.E. stacked in advertisements, but properly flat once in-game.) If she's actually that big in game, is there a mod to flatten her like there is for Katara?
 
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