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Semondemon

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Playing an OC is too much of a cop out for my taste, i already didn't like it when it happened in book 2.
I dunno what caused a drop for me was I played as Azula's bro, I ignored it because the scenes were first person so I could ignore it. I don't like most of the male candidates for the love route and would prefer control is all.
 
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ogr blanc

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i still think the bro should be in the slave route, and the OC be in the love route. like it or not, incests in these games are almost always due to corruption, so it doesnt really work for me that the love route of chapter 2 is the one with incest.
 

Semondemon

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Zucest is one of the best cest ships around.
Doesn't mean I like it m8 nor do I like incest. You can like whatever but it doesn't mean I do nor do I accept it, I only ignored it 'cos first person perspective in scenes & I've had a thing for Azula since forever.
 

Balrog

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i still think the bro should be in the slave route, and the OC be in the love route. like it or not, incests in these games are almost always due to corruption, so it doesnt really work for me that the love route of chapter 2 is the one with incest.
IMO, Zuko should have been the characters in both route, just like Aang was the character in both route in book 1 and 3.
 

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I hope you've read the earlier art update which I posted last Friday or this one will make subzero sense.

First and foremost, thanks. Giving us your blessings in the comments in the last art update helped a lot. I know it must've been a disappointment to hear we'd take a break at such a horribly timed moment, but when something is necessary it's necessary.

I wasn't too worried about the reactions, but the coder was and hearing it's okay from you guys makes all the difference. So while he's hopefully doing fun and only fun stuff or simply resting, I was thinking and mulling things over during the weekend.

As I said before, I considered doing a mini-game or some pics inspired by this month's theme, Halloween. But then I was looking at the date and thinking can't I do something more in the time we have? Something people can look forward to and perhaps help me to become better at gauging when it's time to slow down and make sure the coder doesn't get to a point where things overwhelm him..?

Yes, I think there is... but it's a bit ambitious. I'm perfectly fine energy-wise. It's the coder who always has to bare the responsibility of giving all of us a working and entertaining build. He's been doing that for a long time and I really don't know what it's like to have that kind of mental pressure.

I've taken this weekend to think about the whole thing, do some preliminary work and I feel like I could do something better than just a mini-game or some Halloween inspired pics. As I said before I don't really want to keep working on scenes for future builds and get too far ahead of the coder, but if not that...then what?

And so, with that wordy introduction, I'm going to try my hand at a standalone "lost chapter" for book 4. It'll involve characters from the past and present mixed up with a heavy helping of Halloween. Time-wise it'd be set somewhere during the slave route of book 4.

It's going to be highly experimental, but I'd like to create something and do a "normal" thing where I'd upload the result to the bughunters first and afterwards the early access folks etc. etc.

Without the coder's help, it's going to be short and possibly riddled with bugs. I know enough to help the coder and program some really simple stuff, but I lack the real hands on experience to create something bigger and this is going to give me a small taste of that. I'd like to move a mountain of work but it's more likely to be a molehill in the end. I might not have a whole lot of time or experience, to make this happen, but that's fine. In fact, I'm looking forward to the experience.


I'm planning to release whatever I'll end up with (broken or not)on the 27th to the bughunters. A couple of days later the early access crowd etc. etc. So yeah, a slightly scary but also exciting miniproject which might open up a world of understanding on my part for what the coder has to go through and possible a short but hopefully fun extra for all the folks(you) who make this possible in the first place.


Now I might be able to drop some small updates on what will be going on, but I don't like to make a big deal out of it, so expect (if any) updates to be added to this post as additions.
I'll change the title and add something like: update 1, update2 etc to indicate a change, but I won't bother everyone with entirely new posts or notifications unless there's some really big news.

Expect a flaming pile of garbage, something nice or anything in between before the month is over! WOOHOOO We're going to do the thing Zhu li!!

Small warning: I might become rather unresponsive to pm's and the like during all of this madness since there's not a whole lot of time between now and the 27th.
Wish me luck and sanity, because I'm clearly in need of both.
All I read is that someone is either to greedy to pay an additional coder (coding FET isn't that specific of a task, that you couldnt find more ppl, if you wanted to), or to bad at managing their project. Either way I personally am getting tired of the "health-problems" in this crew. The first time it's nice that you are carefull, the second time also, but it is getting ridiculus. Stop beeing greedy with the money you get and hire additional help, that's worth their money.
 
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All I read is that someone is either to greedy to pay an additional coder (coding FET isn't that specific of a task, that you couldnt find more ppl, if you wanted to), or to bad at managing their project. Either way I personally am getting tired of the "health-problems" in this crew. The first time it's nice that you are carefull, the second time also, but it is getting ridiculus. Stop beeing greedy with the money you get and hire additional help, that's worth their money.
Didnt you know? being a Patreon porn-game developer is one of the most dangerous proffessions in the world, all of them suffer from multiple and several disseases, including physical and mental/neurological problems, which are ALL contagious and affect the whole team and even their families living accross the country

More Patreon devs die per year than cops and construction laborers!
 

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You guys think we'll see kuvira at all? Are there any other females (except jinora) that my fellow degenerates here want to see in book 4?
pretty much all of our fav avatar chars already in the game

maybe more toph/mai? i want common soldiers to fuck them and more cock on their face :D
 

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I know Zucest is a bit of a meme these days, but when the show was airing this scene's dialogue, voice acting and setting was done with a seductive tone on purpose. If this wasn't a kids show I 100% believe that their relationship would have been full on incestual overtones. It's why Zuko for the love route in this game makes sense in my eyes.

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Balrog

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I know Zucest is a bit of a meme these days, but when the show was airing this scene's dialogue, voice acting and setting was done with a seductive tone on purpose. If this wasn't a kids show I 100% believe that their relationship would have been full on incestual overtones. It's why Zuko for the love route in this game makes sense in my eyes.

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It's more of an old ship that has lost most of it's active fanbase than it is a meme TBH

The whole seductive tone was 100% intentional, the voice actress said as much on Tumblr back when creators actualy went there for some ungodly reason.

And the staff of the show included Zucest in their slideshow during a convention segment about shipping.

And with the stuff that went on in the comics, i'm pretty sure the incestual overtones are indeed there even if the comics weren't the best addition to the franchis (still better than Korra)

It being a kid show never stopped anyone from making / include stuff like incestual overtone, hell, the simpson included multiple direct incest joke.
 

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Well, I disagree on that one. This scene has no sexual tension at all but perfectly shows the evil genius that is Azula. Yes, she may(!) sound seductive, yet not in a sexual sense, but in a sense of luring Zuko to admit, he's not 100% sure the Avatar is dead.
Zuko remains an exception in the anime series when it comes to love. He is loved by quite some women but does he really love one of them? It may sound strange but I think the only woman in the show he really could love is Katara, because she's probably the one reminding him the most of his mother.
Azula on the other hand has some biiiig daddy issues. And that's because the thing that attracts and excites her the most is power, something her father has plenty of. I'm not even sure such a person could really love anyone. It's kind of sad.

But the game makes much sense on that matter. You can only share her bed if you prove you have more power than her. (And by using her dad btw.) Breaking her is the only way I can imagine, her becoming a new person.
 

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Well, I disagree on that one. This scene has no sexual tension at all but perfectly shows the evil genius that is Azula. Yes, she may(!) sound seductive, yet not in a sexual sense, but in a sense of luring Zuko to admit, he's not 100% sure the Avatar is dead.
Zuko remains an exception in the anime series when it comes to love. He is loved by quite some women but does he really love one of them? It may sound strange but I think the only woman in the show he really could love is Katara, because she's probably the one reminding him the most of his mother.
Azula on the other hand has some biiiig daddy issues. And that's because the thing that attracts and excites her the most is power, something her father has plenty of. I'm not even sure such a person could really love anyone. It's kind of sad.

But the game makes much sense on that matter. You can only share her bed if you prove you have more power than her. (And by using her dad btw.) Breaking her is the only way I can imagine, her becoming a new person.
Except Azula canonicaly had no freaking clue anything was wrong at that point as said in the novelization, she was just fucking with Zuko and Zuko was just being paranoid when he though she was setting him up (he overestimated her).

It's a big thing that Azula doesn't know half as much as she want other people to think, that facade going away due to Zuko running away under her nose and her friends siding with him in addition to her father's behavior are the biggest factors to her paranoid induced banishement of the palace's staff.

Also sorry but i don't swallow the Zuko / Katara thing for a single second, she doesn't even act in any way, shape or form like Ursa does.
 
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Oh, she may not know for certain but she's convinced enough to lie about the Avatar's dead to her father in case Suko is lying to her (screenshot from the scene where she's getting suspicious) and she's absolutely right about it.



I don't see her as weak or overconfident, there's plenty of situations where she's reading and manipulating people on the highest level. Toph can't even tell if she's lying.
In my book she's the most impressive character in regards to power play and real powers. She's kind of an evil Iroh.
 
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Balrog

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Oh, she may not know for certain but she's convinced enough to lie about the Avatar's dead to her father in case Suko is lying to her (screenshot from the scene where she's getting suspicious) and she's absolutely right about it.



I don't see her as weak or overconfident, there's plenty of situations where she's reading and manipulating people on the highest level. Toph can't even tell if she's lying.
In my book she's the most impressive character in regards to power play and real powers. She's kind of an evil Iroh.
She get doubtful at times but mostly dismiss it as his melodrama, if Azula had really been convinced Zuko was bulshitting, she'd have used it, even if at that point she was pretty chill with him (the novelisation has her be actualy serious about restoring Zuko and the whole team up thing, that wasn't a trick, though one of the staff guy said on twitter that they weren't really sure themself on that so we got a few mixed signal in that storyline, take that as you will, i personaly don't put much stock in twitter info but it does fit), it's pretty obvious, Azula always used everything at her disposal.

She isn't weak but she isn't as strong or all-knowing as she try to portray herself to others and her reading people only extent to fear except for Zuko who she can actualy play like a fiddle most of the time (the only time she miss something about him is while he was acting uncharacteristicly dishonorably due to his internal conflict and that was after 3 years without seeing him, that's damn impressive), that was kinda the point of the 'i love him more than i fear you' scene (a scene that the comics ruined, with Mai breaking up with Zuko over the stupidiest shit like they are freaking Ross and Rachel and falling for the first obvious honey trap that came around).

Also her fooling Toph is because Azula always lie, as Zuko said (which only he seems to have realised), she lie even to herself almost constantly so obviously there wouldn't be a difference between when she lie or not.

IMO, that's the irony of the character, she give that aura of power and authority and technicaly even really has it but end up really being just a puppet for Ozai until her breakdown, everything she did and gain, she always immediatly gave to her father after all (which she probably realised, which is why she barely even acknowledge he exist in the comics and is more focused on Zuko and Ursa.)
 
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Well, I disagree on that one. This scene has no sexual tension at all but perfectly shows the evil genius that is Azula. Yes, she may(!) sound seductive, yet not in a sexual sense, but in a sense of luring Zuko to admit, he's not 100% sure the Avatar is dead.
Zuko remains an exception in the anime series when it comes to love. He is loved by quite some women but does he really love one of them? It may sound strange but I think the only woman in the show he really could love is Katara, because she's probably the one reminding him the most of his mother.
Azula on the other hand has some biiiig daddy issues. And that's because the thing that attracts and excites her the most is power, something her father has plenty of. I'm not even sure such a person could really love anyone. It's kind of sad.

But the game makes much sense on that matter. You can only share her bed if you prove you have more power than her. (And by using her dad btw.) Breaking her is the only way I can imagine, her becoming a new person.
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Yeah, no sexual tension at all...
 

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I was never on that incest train but Zucest is one of my few exceptions. It's a pity that Mity created an OC on slave route in Book 2, because love route in that book is best of part of this game and I just hope that he will add more content to that story (wishful thinking)
 
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Semondemon

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Well I never meant to derail the thread with my disdain for incest, I had a sister who despised me and I never saw the point to the whole shebang so I proactively avoid it as I've said. If you like it what am I gonna do over it? fugeddabout it
I'd rather play as someone with nothing to do with Korra maybe a standby and we grant him avatar powers because our soul is in him and we fug Korra or someone specific that the goof ass you play as would fit into if not that.
 

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Well I never meant to derail the thread with my disdain for incest, I had a sister who despised me and I never saw the point to the whole shebang so I proactively avoid it as I've said. If you like it what am I gonna do over it? fugeddabout it
I'd rather play as someone with nothing to do with Korra maybe a standby and we grant him avatar powers because our soul is in him and we fug Korra or someone specific that the goof ass you play as would fit into if not that.
It's not derailing, we're just actively talking about characters that are in the game and how book 2 was constructed, discussion is pretty interesting IMO, though i haven't really seen someone tell me why the OC was necessary yet.
 
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