Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.6b] [Mity]

[Sir Gary the Snail]

Heh im pretty excited to finally play through all the books in a row once the entire thing is finished.What do you guys think is gonna be their next project? Im down for something similar to this for sure!

Who knows. At this rate they won't start it until 2023 and it should be finished in 2035

 

[Whyhellothere]

No one is theorising, it isn't crazy to assume this is just another excuse. Don't say it's ok to not like delays and then dismiss us criticising delays in the same line. Ever since that first huge delay that lasted four months we've gotten month after month of posts filled with excuses about why the update hasn't come out and they've all been similar in nature. Now guess what? Last week they promise the game will be out early this week, they miss that deadline (big surprise!) and what's posted instead of the update? Post about a dog dying and how they don't feel like talking and how they're so overcome with grief. Get out of here with your "Shut up you're a baby you never planned to buy into this anyway you just pirate it.", you realise they started on an /stg/ thread right? I'll repeat myself again call me a baby, ungrateful or whatever I really don't care but give me good reason why we should invest our money into this project when they won't and when they constantly miss deadlines and spout excuses?

I thought I made it clear that I don't support it because of the late progress and agree to not paying a dime. So why I would I convince you to pay anything? Also I'm not talking about just anyone complaining but the people theorizing that the artist faked his dog dying just to make an excuse. And yeah that's theorizing to the T. "Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts" Like it's 100% facts that they delayed way too many times but to say yeah they used their dog dying as a way to delay the update is 100% a theory.

 

[Fake Rabi ~]

People arguing on the thread and i'm just like

 

[Whyhellothere]

If you don't like us criticizing a game developer for CONSTANTLY delaying release please quit acting like a child and don't read our posts. We paid for this game when it was good(from 2017 to 2019) and developers NEEDED money. Now they have MORE than enough money to dedicate all their effort and focus fully on the game so there would not be any 'bumps on the road' but instead they started to feed us with lame excuses. So we actually doing you a favor when we stopped supporting their bad behavior with our money in hope they will realize that what they 're doing now is wrong for their project and reputation. So you're welcome

If you read what I wrote you'll see that post was for those going overboard with it and that "never"paid a dime. I didn't see you flipping out out but rather giving proper criticism with a calm attitude.

 

[witteb]

Heh im pretty excited to finally play through all the books in a row once the entire thing is finished.What do you guys think is gonna be their next project? Im down for something similar to this for sure!

They are working on omnitrix. its a parody on ben 10 series.

 

[MrFuckNuts]

Seems this deserves a bump again. Turns out it was a combination of 1 and 6.

perpetual 3

 

[covenans]

Weren't they supposed to update toph road ? or i missed it ?

 

[Dark-xenon]

If you read what I wrote you'll see that post was for those going overboard with it and that "never"paid a dime. I didn't see you flipping out out but rather giving proper criticism with a calm attitude.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread who matches your description tbh. Tho I've seen people(other game developers) who criticized this coder guy based on the way he writes his CODE. And it was a healthy criticism. If you are not familiar with how to program Collectible Card Game - you just don't do it when you have a deadline.
This whole story actually reminded me this episode from Silicon Valley when Richard couldn't get his head around how to implement cloud service to their system and was forced by his co-workers to hire a teenager to write specifically that part. Ofc that didn't turn out the way they wanted but it's a comedy show after all
But the way MITY team handled this situation is even worse. Instead of OWNING their mistakes they just come up with more excuses to NOT hire additional help and to continue everything the way they are doing not realising that if this happened ONCE it can easily happen again but for the other reason. AND IT FREAKING DID! It already did! So I just don't understand how can ANY one not see this and continue to go with this false narrative of 'oh he flipped only one time just give them more time it will all be fine'
ALSO last thing: Either Artist CAN'T influence on coder at all(he's just a hired professional) and that's why they don't hire anyone else OR he FORCED coder to take a vacation after he 'burned out' when didn't manage to complete this CCG thing back in SEPTEMBER(!). You CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!

 

[FriendlyBear12]

We're forgetting that the coder is to blame for the current delay. He suddenly felt like adding additional stuff to the update(Most likely worthless minigame), making the artist look like a total fool, because he had already given us an estimate of release. Artist has said many times he want the old monthly/1½'ish schedule back but it's obvious he has no say in this. Coder does whatever he wants.

 

[RebelliousKnightMordred]

We're forgetting that the coder is to blame for the current delay. He suddenly felt like adding additional stuff to the update(Most likely worthless minigame), making the artist look like a total fool, because he had already given us an estimate of release. Artist has said many times he want the old monthly/1½'ish schedule back but it's obvious he has no say in this. Coder does whatever he wants.

Then the solution is clear isn't it? Why doesn't the artist just leave and move onto another project with people more organised? Oh it's because their current project with the two of them just doing whatever and missing deadlines consistently still gets them paid 20k a month. It's obvious the amount of money they earn has made them both complacent, that's just how people usually go. The coder also wouldn't be able to do whatever he wants if they just brought in another to either help with the code or light a fire under the current coder's ass and make him work.

 

[Semiguacamole]

We are still missing Art Assets 44

The asset page only goes to Art Assets 43
While the latest Art Assets 45 have been already posted here and on the asset page, #44 is still missing.
Not to mention that the OP here only goes to #40.

I've checked and an actual zip with #44 is still nowhere on this thread.

 

[thefetussundae]

Oh it's because their current project with the two of them just doing whatever and missing deadlines consistently still gets them paid 20k a month.

Bingo. It isn't in either of their best interest to get to the end of this project, and the last year has shown people will still send them money even if they completely stop working. They made a combined 90k for an art update over 4 months, when you're being paid that much "writers block" isn't a very good excuse.

When they finish the game they'll inevitably lose subscribers while they gear towards the new one. They may have started with great intentions but like you said, they've become complacent. Heck I would say they're dependent. It happens when you start dealing with that amount of money coupled with such blurry legal requirements around it.

 

[shmurfer]

We are still missing Art Assets 44

The asset page only goes to Art Assets 43
While the latest Art Assets 45 have been already posted here and on the asset page, #44 is still missing.
Not to mention that the OP here only goes to #40.

I've checked and an actual zip with #44 is still nowhere on this thread.

Actually read the thread instead of the first post. The OP isn't updated in that thread but #44 and #45 are posted in the replies.

 

[darkgunner079]

Its a shame that they'll see absolutely none of this feedback because their patron feed gets drowned by "its ok take all the time you need ill keep giving you guys money even if this game never gets updated again" posts every time they use another sob story as an excuse for the constant delays

I liked MITY, I really did. But it gets harder and harder to be anything but suspicious when pretty much every single update for the past few months (maybe even a year?) has followed the exact same pattern every time: Delays and excuses, usually involving some emotional issues that paints them as a victim allows them to do whatever they want and get a free pass because anyone who criticizes them is seen as an asshole/entitled

 

[DarkDank]

Its a shame that they'll see absolutely none of this feedback because their patron feed gets drowned by "its ok take all the time you need ill keep giving you guys money even if this game never gets updated again" posts every time they use another sob story as an excuse for the constant delays

I liked MITY, I really did. But it gets harder and harder to be anything but suspicious when pretty much every single update for the past few months (maybe even a year?) has followed the exact same pattern every time: Delays and excuses, usually involving some emotional issues that paints them as a victim allows them to do whatever they want and get a free pass because anyone who criticizes them is seen as an asshole/entitled

The fucking constant cock sucking on the Patreon is very annoying, I agree.
And if this update is delayed past the end of this month I'm canceling my pledge 100%. I stopped it during the 4th month delay last year. Coder can have burnout, I get it, but I'm not giving money away for that.
That being said, I do believe the Artist is genuine when he says the coder gives him bullshit timelines, then fails to deliver. Artist has said before that coder won't get back to him for a day or two. Probably email or discord and coder just ghosts. People can be like that.

I guess what I'm getting at is outrage is appropriate at times, it just seems like right now, with that last post, people think the dog was about the delay of the game. It wasn't. It was just about why there was no blog post with the art update.
Let's roast the mother fuckers when it's time, and shit even for the coder saying it was coming within a week 2 weeks ago. But not for something that's not related one way or the other towards the delay.

 

[Evans15]

So, how do you guys think the last book will be like? I think they will visit the spirit world in a space that doesn't follow the rules of times and space, so that the final battle against the "Evil Spirit" every girl from past books join in, then end in a huge (and awesome) orgy with MC.

 

[Whyhellothere]

So, how do you guys think the last book will be like? I think they will visit the spirit world in a space that doesn't follow the rules of times and space, so that the final battle against the "Evil Spirit" every girl from past books join in, then end in a huge (and awesome) orgy with MC.

Not sure but I'm only excited cause it's Avatar Korra and I always thought she was the best looking female character I've seen, partially cause I love a girl with some muscle.

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

So I got the powder from Shady. (In Book 4)
How to use it on Korra?

 

[Jack-orka]

If you spoke already to Korra and saw the scene where she drinks protenin shakes or whatever, talk to your wife

 

[Evans15]

Not sure but I'm only excited cause it's Avatar Korra and I always thought she was the best looking female character I've seen, partially cause I love a girl with some muscle.

This isn't the last book, there will be a fifth, the book that will unite both routes into a single ending, which in my opinion is kind of stupid because there is no middle ground in slave and love route.