Ren'Py Fourteenth Fantasy : Harem Reborn [v0.2.1] [PopotoProductions]

[dbmpa]

The art is nice but the combat and crafting is too grindy. And some of these items could be easier to find.

 

[HuiEtyud]

I love the irony that the dev is "Popoto Productions" but vehemently isn't including lalafells.

I can hear Quicksand /say chat crying now.

 

[Geigi]

Dual gender options and sexuality either means the romancable cast is going to be small, and their stories short,

I think that based on the screenshots the characters in the game will be dateable no matter which protagonist you choose?

 

[Kismaz]

The game has a lot of potential, can't wait to see where it goes !
As for the harem in the name, if you don't plan to have that just yet while still having it shown in the title, even if it's just for the word play you're unfortunatly shooting yourself in the foot. A game doesn't need the harem tag to be good (even if it would be nice, I won't lie) and you are not obligated to compromise on your creative vision to please us but be sure to avoid what could be perceived as """"false advertisment"""" and perhaps change your title for the time being. Something like "A risqué realm reborn/ a realm re-porn" or something of that ilk would be just fine and spare you some useless trouble and some digruntled consumers.

Appart from that that small point it looks great. keep up the good work !

 

[Flying Chicken Man]

I very much like what I have seen so far, both in this thread and in the game. The bit about something something advance time so Alisaie can be included without worries is also nice, and I am also glad to see Ryne and Gaia. Who I hope are taken as a pair, because joining them sounds fun, but getting between them? Heavens no. This does not apply to Fourchenault and Ameliance, of course. I will gladly bang that dude's wife while he's off on official business. Someone's got to keep that big ol' bed of hers warm.

The lack of futa is a very minor disappointment, but it is more than offset by the addition of platonic friendship routes. I'm not interested in high-jumping on to Estinien's lance, but I don't want to leave the guy out. This way we can be bros!

I would also like to be able to choose which race you play as, but that's probably in "are you trying to kill my artist" territory, since just adding miqo'te alone means you'd need to redraw every single scene involving the WOL two more times, and that's a bit much to ask.

 

[NecroBunnyStudios]

Ooooh! Now this looks interesting! I'll have to give it a try.

 

[PopotoProductions]

Thank you all so much for the comments and reviews

I'll try to address some of the posts I haven't reacted to yet :

Omg a one night date and lovemaking session with Venat would be lit.

Well, being able to travel to Elpis and interacting with

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might be one of the things I'm the most eager to, so it'll be probably be more than just a one night date

Game looks like its going to end up in feature creep hell. Dual gender options and sexuality either means the romancable cast is going to be small, and their stories short, or we'll be like Seeds of Chaos and waiting for this to finish 20 years from now

This is cute, looking forward to more. As people have said, I'd be careful with the feature creep.

I'm very conscious of the creeping risk, mostly because I've seen that happen with way too many games as well.
I won't deny that this project is pretty ambitous, but here are three things I think can work in my favor :

• You're not too far off the truth when speaking about short stories. By the end of her questline in 0.1, Y'shtola's character progression is mostly done and what remain in future updates will be "epiloguey" content as we explore our newfound relationship with her in Sharlayan and the First (depending on the choice we made). So yeah, basically I chose to have a wider cast over having longer stories because I know full well I can't both have the cake and eat it.
• Unlike many other devs, I can't draw shit so I'm relying on outside artists to handle that part. Be they portraits, sex scenes, monsters, sprites or (hopefully soon) backgrounds, they'll cost me money but very little personal time to make. Which means I'll be able to focus on designing, writing and coding.
• I have a rough roadmap in mind with a base idea for a dozen romanceable characters to implement in a potential final build if I don't get enough financial support and have to rely on my own money. Obviously in a sandbox dating-sim based on a game like FFXIV, I'd love to be able to do much more (just look at all the characters people have requested on this thread) but technically with how the game is built I can bring the game to a rough 1.0 state with all the jobs & locations covered and then improve from there with new features if I get enough support for them.

Also Lance charge either needs to be buffed numbers wise or not take a turn because as it stands using a turn to buff and 3 turns to attack w/ buff is about equal to just doing 4 normal attacks.

Duly noted. For now it's mostly effective when coupled with the Jump ability but a little buff can't hurt.

Some unsolicited advice. You ought to make the game you want to make man. If you try to pander to all, quality will sink.
That said gender choice for a first game is big red flag around here, you're inviting feature creep and development hell.

Also you NEED to change that title if you plan on having any poly content whatsoever unless only women are involved. Otherwise you're baiting the wrong crowd for your game and then pulling a MASSIVE switch on them. So not only is the title turning off the crowd who might be interested in your game, but then you're getting rid of the crowd that does show up.

Now being part of the harem crowd, I'm out before this thread turns into a cesspool of NTR arguments.
Good luck on the game!

I'm gonna be honest if this isn't an actual harem game, that's fine. big fan of devs doing what they want. However as a prior comment says, ya unless that changes it needs a title change so it hits the proper market. I, personally have lost my excitement for it since while it has characters and a setting I enjoy, I don't enjoy the genre it's leaning into. not a fan of sharing/being an an open relationship. good luck regardless dev, hope you have success.

So, to flesh them out you make them talking sex CGs that just don't involve the MC that..... sure is a strategy I guess?

Drop harem from the title, shit is misleading.

The game has a lot of potential, can't wait to see where it goes !
As for the harem in the name, if you don't plan to have that just yet while still having it in the title, even if it's just for the word play you're unfortunatly shooting yourself in the foot. A game doesn't need the harem tag to be good (even if it would be nice, I won't lie) and you are not obligated to compromise on your creative vision to please us but be sure to avoid what could be perceived as """"false advertisment"""" and perhaps change your title for the time being. Something like "A risqué realm reborn/ a realm re-porn" or something of that ilk would be just fine and spare you some useless trouble and some digruntled consumers for the time being.

Appart from that that small point it looks great. keep up the good work !

Hey, this is not the new FF14 expansion, I got scammed! XD
Jokes on the side, I for one like the realistic approach in polyamory where everyone sleeps with everyone, but maybe the dev should put the option for pure harem for ntr/sharing haters.

Again, reading all your comments on that part makes it clear that I need to make a choice by the time I get to 0.2.

• Either I don't change anything at all and risk having lots of players feeling misled.
• Or I drop "Harem" in the title (I liked that pun ) and don't change anything else in the game.
• Or I keep "Harem" in the title and drop the polyamory/monogamy stuff.
• Or I both keep "Harem" in the title and the polyamory/monogamy stuff, but I also add an option to let people live their harem fantasy (for example, mimicking the "monogamous" choice for the romanceable characters while not locking the player from courting other people).

Not too keen on the first and third one. That last option would be the best compromise for everyone, but also the trickiest to implement. I'll take the time to think about it.

In any case, if anyone here felt tricked by the title and thought it was some kind of pseudo-marketing ploy, it really wasn't. Sorry 'bout that. As someone once said : such frustration, it was not my intention.

And lastly, the biggest upside is there are no backstabbing little potatoes (if you played the real FF14 you know what I'm talkin about).

Also what do you mean by that, that game is litterally made by a backstabbing little potato

Hildibrand and Nashu when?

I'm not sure doctors recommend to laugh while fapping I thought about having them in a special quest though

The art is nice but the combat and crafting is too grindy. And some of these items could be easier to find.

I'm planning to increase the received XP as part of some QoL changes in 0.2. As for the items you had a hard time finding, if you give me some examples I can try to be clearer in the game.

I love the irony that the dev is "Popoto Productions" but vehemently isn't including lalafells.

I can hear Quicksand /say chat crying now.

See above I'm the only Lalafell allowed here

I very much like what I have seen so far, both in this thread and in the game. The bit about something something advance time so Alisaie can be included without worries is also nice, and I am also glad to see Ryne and Gaia. Who I hope are taken as a pair, because joining them sounds fun, but getting between them? Heavens no. This does not apply to Fourchenault and Ameliance, of course. I will gladly bang that dude's wife while he's off on official business. Someone's got to keep that big ol' bed of hers warm.

The lack of futa is a very minor disappointment, but it is more than offset by the addition of platonic friendship routes. I'm not interested in high-jumping on to Estinien's lance, but I don't want to leave the guy out. This way we can be bros!

I would also like to be able to choose which race you play as, but that's probably in "are you trying to kill my artist" territory, since just adding miqo'te alone means you'd need to redraw every single scene involving the WOL two more times, and that's a bit much to ask.

Yeah I don't how I'll deal with Ameliance and Fourchenault yet, though I still have some time before we reach Sharlayan.

As for what you said about Estinien, that's exactly what I designed the Friendship route for It would be a waste not to interact at all with the characters you're not attracted to. Besides, that can add some replayability value (and justify making a New Game+ feature) as the quests and dialogues are somewhat different.

Like you said, choosing your WoL's race might become tricky when making the CGs with 7 different version each. Probably doable if I somehow managed to make 30k/month on Patreon and pay an artist for each but by that time I'd probably get a visit from Square's lawyers And people warning about creep hell would have a (justified) stroke.

 

[Slaybrood]

All planned ! I'll start working on it soon



Even with only a few looping images, having these kind of animation would be a dream come true, but that will depend on how much burden that puts on the artist (Syllax)'s shoulders, not mentionning the extra cost.

After seeing so many NSFW projects get overambitious and fail (or get stuck in development limbo), I first wanted to focus on having multiple still pictures, rather a small handful of animations for the same period of development time. That may change in the future, but honestly I can't say for sure at the moment.

Ahhh... Zenos and his Battle-Sexual Tension with the WoL.
What about Lyse? Hilda? Tataru Krile? Ryne? Alisaie? M'Naago? Y'Mithra? Nashu? HILDIBRAND?!?

 

[winmace]

Can't wait for FWoL to experience Zenos when we both accept we are battle sexuals

 

[ToasterCrazy]

I love your idea here and the fact you used the best girl as the starter, extra points in my book. Looking forward to seeing what you have in store

 

[Mayostorm]

I love to see so much dev engagement! Looking forward to future updates!

 

[BoyD.Joy]

Yooooo? Yoooooooo!

 

[blergh123]

So is it even possible to find shallots in current version?
NVM i hadnt noticed the split into 3 areas

 

[N_Yah]

Hey, this is not the new FF14 expansion, I got scammed! XD
Jokes on the side, I for one like the realistic approach in polyamory where everyone sleeps with everyone, but maybe the dev should put the option for pure harem for ntr/sharing haters. And lastly, the biggest upside is there are no backstabbing little potatoes (if you played the real FF14 you know what I'm talkin about).

Speaking specifically about "realistic" as it applies to this setting: There's a good deal of Harems within FF14, but I can't think of any Poly/Open relationships shown.

There probably is some I've forgotten, it's a pretty big world with a lot in it. But when you've got everyone from random catboys to a Roedegyn policeman with a harem, I don't think it's fair to say a harem is unrealistic.

 

[dmb566]

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (game/text/romance_yshtola.rpy, line 1439)

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/text/romance_yshtola.rpyc", line 1392, in script
  File "C:\Users\austi\Downloads\Fourteenth_Fantasy_Harem_Reborn-0.1-pc\FFHaremReborn-0.1-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\austi\Downloads\Fourteenth_Fantasy_Harem_Reborn-0.1-pc\FFHaremReborn-0.1-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1151, in py_eval
    code = py_compile(code, 'eval')
  File "C:\Users\austi\Downloads\Fourteenth_Fantasy_Harem_Reborn-0.1-pc\FFHaremReborn-0.1-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1088, in py_compile
    raise e
  File "C:\Users\austi\Downloads\Fourteenth_Fantasy_Harem_Reborn-0.1-pc\FFHaremReborn-0.1-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1034, in py_compile
    raise orig_e
  File "C:\Users\austi\Downloads\Fourteenth_Fantasy_Harem_Reborn-0.1-pc\FFHaremReborn-0.1-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1027, in py_compile
    tree = compile(source, filename, py_mode, ast.PyCF_ONLY_AST | flags, 1)
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (game/text/romance_yshtola.rpy, line 1439)

Windows-10-10.0.22631 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
Fourteenth Fantasy - Harem Reborn 0.1
Fri Jun 21 09:55:24 2024

During the 3rd quest for female mc

Did you find a fix?

 

[PopotoProductions]

Did you find a fix?

Yes, it seemed to come from a faulty Python condition.

For now, you can click Ignore and that should skip the scene altogether so you're able to keep playing. Before that, you can also click Rollback to make a save, that way you'll be able to see the scene when I post the fixed version tomorrow (along with some other minor fixes)

 

[neonclear]

The grind feels like it's just there to prevent players from blowing through the content. With a dash of frustration to stop the player from mindlessly grinding, forcing the player to return to town to rest to prevent an exp penalty. Why design things that deliberately make the game unfun? Cute game otherwise.

 

[Acepter]

Running into this error FWoL path 3rd event scene. Haven't tested with MWoL yet

Edit: Looks like this error was reported earlier. Just noticed now. Ignoring skips the scene and continues dialogue but it doesn't trigger as finished so I'm basically locked

 

[MadLad Nomad]

All planned ! I'll start working on it soon



Even with only a few looping images, having these kind of animation would be a dream come true, but that will depend on how much burden that puts on the artist (Syllax)'s shoulders, not mentionning the extra cost.

After seeing so many NSFW projects get overambitious and fail (or get stuck in development limbo), I first wanted to focus on having multiple still pictures, rather a small handful of animations for the same period of development time. That may change in the future, but honestly I can't say for sure at the moment.

I do hope you guys find time to make some small animation, again I'm not expecting anything crazy, just the same 4 images maybe that loop, which I would assume takes the same amount of time as rendering 4 regular game images... I'm no developer though so don't take my uninformed comments personally, but yeah with my limited knowledge I assume rendering 4 images for a sex scene that loop should be somewhat easy enough for someone things like Blowjobs and such so we at least don't see just a still image and 10 lines of text explaining how good it feels let me see Y'shtola head bob back and forth

 

[PopotoProductions]

Did you find a fix?

Running into this error FWoL path 3rd event scene. Haven't tested with MWoL yet

Edit: Looks like this error was reported earlier. Just noticed now. Ignoring skips the scene and continues dialogue but it doesn't trigger as finished so I'm basically locked

0.1.1 version is online here are the MEGA links (

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). Saves are compatible.

The bug should be resolved by now. I also fixed a couple of other things and tweaked some numbers to lighten (but not entirely remove) the fighting and crafting grinds.

The other changes requested, like having an inn in Ishgard or whatever I'll have decided for the monogamy/polyamory choice, will have to wait for 0.2 as I didn't want to take the risk of creating new bugs by adding new stuff.

I'll also work on an Android version, but obviously I need to make some changes to the display and game behaviours (ex : can't right-click to access the main menu, can't hover over a skill to see tooltip, etc.)

I do hope you guys find time to make some small animation, again I'm not expecting anything crazy, just the same 4 images maybe that loop, which I would assume takes the same amount of time as rendering 4 regular game images... I'm no developer though so don't take my uninformed comments personally, but yeah with my limited knowledge I assume rendering 4 images for a sex scene that loop should be somewhat easy enough for someone things like Blowjobs and such so we at least don't see just a still image and 10 lines of text explaining how good it feels let me see Y'shtola head bob back and forth

While I'm still somewhat new to Ren'Py (this is my very first project), I don't think animating the scenes as the developper wiould be the hardest part. After all, I was able to animate some basic effects for Black mage spells or the pixel sprites. Like I said in an earlier post, the main hurdle would be on the artist's shoulders, especially as I don't want the updates to take too long to make