kazeiheikaya
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I didn't only say NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP i said considered "if in an active relationship", then went onto further elaborate. But regardless NTR's core definition, does largely refer to the state of being in a relationship/starting a relationship, and I'm using it properly even if we wanna take that route.
I said didn't have claim. AKA literally DID NOTHING with the MC yet, not even HINTS to a relationship lmao. You cant posess ownership over someone that you have yet to even get that far with, thats the most roundabout logic I've ever heard. So you're NTR'd if a love interest has a boyfriend that breaks up with them AFTER the MC meets them but they banged before breaking up? That makes 0 sense.
Even the context of my comment suggested what I said "THIS UPDATE" is when the NTR flags would start considering the MC Just basically started a somewhat intimate setting with them. & yes if we arent actively doing anything with the mother, sisters, childhood friends, and the game hasn't decided that the flag has been initiated for them yet, and they have to have a tragic falling out to push them into the idea of incest or realizing they fucked up, who am I to say otherwise? lol. Aslong as I dont have to be physically involved with everything going on, I could careless, but laying claim to everything the second the game starts doesn't make any sense. Theres so many great stories where characters start out in a relationship prior to getting with the MC, they're a love interest, but they didnt wait around their entire existence to leap into MCs arms.
just to be completely transparent, if a LI is introduced as a "used toy" and I liked her, I'll drop the game. If an LI is shown in past scenes where they get banged or have an orgy, or college days, w/e I'll drop the game. I'm not a fan at all of watching LI's in sexual situations, even if its out of their control and they're in a completely unwilling rape scenario, that could pull me away even if there isn't penetration yet. If NTR is avoidable but its only avoidable by ignorance (aka it still happens like you have the choice to watch a scene or go to bed) I'll drop a game. I got my own issues with it, ontop of it just disgusting me outright. But, and big but here, I just dont agree with the framing here, in the slightest. It's constantly looking under the bed and its been a theme in this thread. I just think its a bit ridiculous with the evidence we have thus far. Hell even Julia is staying as far away from her husband.
This is like a northpole/southpole take on NTR. Northpole is like "you're not a real man unless you can share your women like a true cuck" South pole is like "You like NTR unless you're a completely overly possessive piece of shit once you think a characters hot" and I'm here just dead center like "im cool as long as I don't know it, see it, experience it, you're free to do what you want aslong as its before & not after we shared a moment if we're starting something, everything else is finished." gotta be some real elements to it otherwise it just feels hollow lol.
This I Can almost FULLY agree with, yeah its not attractive to see other LI's in sexual provocative situations, talk about ex's, past sexual relations, etc. Not a fan of it myself, but its just not NTR which is the main issue I take with people that constantly preach about NTR on here. But thats also why choices exist, if it bugs you that much that blaire grinded, turn her down, if it bugs you victorias a prostitute futa, turn her down. I greatly dislike NTR too, but I still dont think its too close for comfort. People here are too harsh on dev's about how they wanna tell their story, they did literally nothing, blaire never even did anything with MC by that point and people are sounding alarms. Once the route starts is where I start the NTR line, because I cant tie people to an invisible leash to me. Doesn't mean in a relationship, doesn't mean dating, it means once intimacy with MC starts, in any regard, is when the cut off starts.
The only real alarm to me is that Dev said Victoria will optionally be part of situations with women, which up to that point, we thought Vic was gay(or trans-straight) so thats a bit odd. Which is why I dont see anything wrong with the blaire scene, she's obsessed with MC unreciprocated, but she did it to mock vic, and we were also under the assumption that vic was 'gay. '
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