kaisertheliar

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What's the current definitive version link? Been 4 years since I DL'd pregmod and bing won't find the github. Any mods or art packs that are stable that people recommend?
 
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Hey guys rule assistant trouble again, how does the "Remove label(s) from slave (separate by '|')" function work? I tried typing in a word to remove all instances of that word in the custom labels of all the labels of the slaves, but it doesn't seem to work. Does it do something else?
 
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What's the current definitive version link? Been 4 years since I DL'd pregmod and bing won't find the github. Any mods or art packs that are stable that people recommend?
why are you using bing? are you okay?
also I just searched "free cities pregmod github" in bing, and it was the first result
 

rhoghadessa

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Might be unpopular feedback but they need to add a story for revenge purging against ex-buyers or ex-owners of our boomerang sold slaves.. because it's starting to get super annoying whenever slaves that you've raised very well and ensure get a good buyers almost always return abused by their previously assumed "good" buyers..
I think the boomerang event only fires if you sold a slave to a fellow Arcology Owner? Not too sure because they're the ones who pay the most of the lot, so I almost always sell my slaves to them (unless selling to them would cause Devotion/Trust losses, or to the independent former Peacekeepers). Do they fire if you sold them to citizens or the other places like a slave trader, dairy farm or pharmaceutical lab?

That said, some of them aren't the fault of their ex-owner - for instance, the boomerang event for if you sold the slave to a 'Paternalism Arcology' (states something about the Arcology Owner wanting to provide good care for slaves but ironically only wants broken in ones) does have the slave state that 'things were good until their owner got kicked out' (presumably in a coup) and what sounded like a Degrationalist took over. Though even if you really wanted to take 'revenge' for this change, you'd have to know which Arcology bought the slave first (which isn't mentioned at all), so that you can take action against that Arcology by eventually taking over it.

Does anyone know if the girl you get from the snatch and grab event can have perfect face? Cuz I remember the very first one I got had it but that was months ago and some things seem to have changed in the code...
(Also, I've not been able to trigger its follow up event where you get to choose what to do with her altered genes. How trigger?)
Assuming on Pregmod, but I think her Face is fixed to 55 or something? Or maybe it's just my luck and I always get her as 55. Looking at the actual coding out of curiosity, it only has ' snatched.face = 15; ' for any references to 'face' (the only other one is whether she starts with Exotic or Androgynous face, depending on whether you have pedomode on). Her Intelligence is not mentioned and can vary from her showing up Brilliant (and within range to hit 100 Intelligence with drugs) or Quite Stupid (which is great if you're running a bimbo Arcology, I guess?).

So I assume that just means '40 + 15'? Which is kind of annoying if she comes out 18 years or older, because the only way to get her to the beauty checkpoint where she can eventually get a Perfect Face for people of that age group is to put them on aphrodisiacs for a long time and hope you have gacha luck to trigger the face attractiveness effect of it. The alternative method for underaged slaves is still dependent on RNG as well (if you had turned on that option), though potentially not as bad as the 'forever aphrodisiacs' method.
 
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Assuming on Pregmod, but I think her Face is fixed to 55 or something? Or maybe it's just my luck and I always get her as 55. Looking at the actual coding out of curiosity, it only has ' snatched.face = 15; ' for any references to 'face' (the only other one is whether she starts with Exotic or Androgynous face, depending on whether you have pedomode on). Her Intelligence is not mentioned and can vary from her showing up Brilliant (and within range to hit 100 Intelligence with drugs) or Quite Stupid (which is great if you're running a bimbo Arcology, I guess?).

So I assume that just means '40 + 15'? Which is kind of annoying if she comes out 18 years or older, because the only way to get her to the beauty checkpoint where she can eventually get a Perfect Face for people of that age group is to put them on aphrodisiacs for a long time and hope you have gacha luck to trigger the face attractiveness effect of it. The alternative method for underaged slaves is still dependent on RNG as well (if you had turned on that option), though potentially not as bad as the 'forever aphrodisiacs' method.
I dug into the source files a little more and used debug mode a bit after I posted here and found out what my problems were:
A - the snatch and grab girl is fixed at 15 beauty (but I didn't find anything stopping her from spawning with Perfect Face, so I guess my rng was bad or I'm misunderstanding how the trait spawns lol) and androgynous if 18+ and exotic if underage.
B - she needs to be assigned to a job that allows her to spawn a weekend event: penthouse, master suite, servant and such (not obvious to me in the code, but the debug mode confirmed it) in order to spawn her follow up event.
C - the follow up gives her +25 or - 25 int depending on your choice which doesn't seem to count towards her psychostim or psychosuppressant count, basically allowing you to be 40 int off from the ideal int value for your playthrough, I guess.
I managed to pull a 100 int one so that was pointless :ROFLMAO:
But, yeah, thanks anyway ;)
Cheers~

Also, I didn't know aphrodisiacs could improve face?! Wut!?
Damn... Maybe I should get one of the less attractive girls hooked on it to check :ROFLMAO:
 

svornost

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Heavy feminine hormones can also have a face softening effect, which is much more reliable than the aphrodisiac effect.

And yes, the Snatch and Grab slave's followup is a permanent modifier to her base intelligence. It's better than drugs, and can be stacked with them, intentionally.

I'd actually meant for it to be the first of a bunch of such followup events that allow special story event slaves to come back to the player and remind you of their origins, but I only ended up writing the one (and another writer did a second one off my list, for the orphan girl in RE Malefactor, if you choose to adopt her).
 

rhoghadessa

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Also, I didn't know aphrodisiacs could improve face?! Wut!?
Damn... Maybe I should get one of the less attractive girls hooked on it to check :ROFLMAO:
It can only do so once, and raises their Face by +10. However, the RNG for it is so bad that if you're going to go down this route, the girls will be on them for an extremely long time - potentially giving them health problems that can end with them dying from a heart attack if you haven't upgraded your Pharmaceutical Fabricator enough to get the upgrades that make all your drugs safer in general. Maybe the Body Purist policy that 'forces drugs to be clean' helps? Unless it functions just like the other FS policies of that kind and impacts the Arcology more than anything else.

But yeah, because of that very rare chance to get that +10 effect, I have RAs that literally tell me whether a slave is effectively 'Below 50 Face' (with hormone therapies to go with it), within '50-60 Face' (no changes, just a 'RA title'), is a 'Natural Beauty' (60-79 Face; also just RA title), is at 'Beauty Checkpoint' (80-99 Face; RA title as well) or has 'Perfect Face' (at 100 Face). Even if you don't have the Gene Sequencer yet at the start the Rules Assistant can assign these rules on new slaves you get, so without needing to go into Remote Surgery to check, you can already know right away what their rough Face value is. It also functions as a way for me to know if I should start applying aphrodisiacs, whether they are at 60-79 Face and thus can be pushed to 80+ Face via Remote Surgery without it being obvious (after getting the Remote Surgery upgrade), and whether they are at 80+ Face and thus I don't need to touch them as it'll naturally go up to 100 when they're Worshipful and Profoundly Trusting (and/or if they're not Exotic, to shift their face to that).

Note that if you want aphrodisiacs to be able to do that +10 Face thing, you must not purchase the 'refined aphrodisiacs' upgrade. Once you buy that upgrade almost none of the physical changes from using it can occur anymore, including the extremely rare +10 Face. At most you should buy the upgrade that lets addicted slaves be able to handle aphrodisiac withdrawal just fine, so that if it actually does trigger, you can immediately take them off it (unless you like running an Arcology full of sex-crazed slaves, that is).

Heavy feminine hormones can also have a face softening effect, which is much more reliable than the aphrodisiac effect.
That is the case, but for 'adult' slaves (18+ years old), it only brings the Face value to 50 at most. Thus unless you then perform facial plastic surgery on them twice (thus making it obvious even for Body Purists if you had the upgraded Remote Surgery), they won't be able to hit the 80+ 'beauty checkpoint' where their Face automatically shifts towards 100 Face. As far as I know the only other way currently is to have younger than 18 year old slaves and the 'Watch slaves grow up' option, which while stops minors from having their hormones physically change them every week, instead has a chance to apply a +10 Face hormone effect on their birthday (I think they had to be at least on 'Heavily Female' on their birthday for a chance?). But this means waiting potentially years if RNG doesn't favour you on this regard, and impossible if a slave is ugly enough (though I guess most people would just sell them at that point, if they're doing their own eugenics program).

Having said all that, I kind of wish there are more ways of improving your slaves' Face and Intelligence values, even if it means slowly doing expensive genetic treatments that give 100 Carcinoma or something. Or perhaps a way to raid the Futanari Sisters to get a glimpse of their methods - other than the whole futanari/shemale thing, their other main thing is that somehow the older their members are, the more beautiful and smarter they are. It's to such that those at near standard slave retirement age of 45 you grab from them are almost always 100 Intelligence and Face - surely there'd be a way to get at it? Because otherwise other than rolling upgraded Utopia Orphanage slaves, buying slaves from Elites (if Eugenics FS) and from a few events, it's pretty much difficult to try to get the perfect slave. I almost always go Utopia Orphanage as it is purely because of this; but otherwise usually invite the Futanari Sisters in as well so that when I have the Immortality Project, I can get almost guaranteed perfect slaves from them instead.
 

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I'd actually meant for it to be the first of a bunch of such followup events that allow special story event slaves to come back to the player and remind you of their origins, but I only ended up writing the one (and another writer did a second one off my list, for the orphan girl in RE Malefactor, if you choose to adopt her).
I also dimly remember one where you first get an event to abduct the daughter of some rich old world guy, with a follow up where the MC fucks her while on a call with him. Although I haven't gotten even the initial event in ages. Might be a retired vanilla event?
 

GammaXai

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Is there an android version that will work on my phone?
Pregmod and I think the base game are both available as html files so will run on 'anything' but the game state often gets too big for most browsers so people are urged to use fchost on pc.
 
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I have RAs that literally tell me whether a slave is effectively 'Below 50 Face' (with hormone therapies to go with it), within '50-60 Face' (no changes, just a 'RA title'), is a 'Natural Beauty' (60-79 Face; also just RA title), is at 'Beauty Checkpoint' (80-99 Face; RA title as well) or has 'Perfect Face' (at 100 Face). Even if you don't have the Gene Sequencer yet at the start the Rules Assistant can assign these rules on new slaves you get, so without needing to go into Remote Surgery to check, you can already know right away what their rough Face value is.
Huh... I don't know why I'm so hesitant to use the RA a lot. This is very efficient lol

And yes, the Snatch and Grab slave's followup is a permanent modifier to her base intelligence. It's better than drugs, and can be stacked with them, intentionally.
Ah... That's nice. Thanksu good chap!
Having said all that, I kind of wish there are more ways of improving your slaves' Face and Intelligence values, even if it means slowly doing expensive genetic treatments that give 100 Carcinoma or something.
This would be amazing to have. Especially considering how limited we are using the other methods...
My preferred method of creating perfect slave girls with job experience right now is to just wait till week 45, unlock body swapping, buy a wetware cpu with 85+ int and order a husk from the flesh heap and reset the husk till it has 80+ face and swap the cpu into it. Instant near-perfect slave girl with near-max obedience and trust in one turn :ROFLMAO:
it'll naturally go up to 100 when they're Worshipful and Profoundly Trusting
And if this is real, she'll get maxed out with no effort at all in the next turn when you fix the last few things wrong with her using the auto-surgery.

Futanari Sisters
:WaitWhat: Huh? Where are they? I've never seen them...? Any options I'm missing?

Because otherwise other than rolling upgraded Utopia Orphanage slaves, buying slaves from Elites (if Eugenics FS) and from a few events, it's pretty much difficult to try to get the perfect slave. I almost always go Utopia Orphanage as it is purely because of this; but otherwise usually invite the Futanari Sisters in as well so that when I have the Immortality Project, I can get almost guaranteed perfect slaves from them instead.
As much as I like the wares of the Utopian Orphanage, I've gotten better stock from the Hippolyta Academy. They work wonders if you have the body purist and physical idealist fs and have a chance to roll with 90+ int if you never do the weekend event where you invest in the school lol. And they can have near perfect faces. The girls from the Utopian Orphanage need a little too much work for my taste.

Oh well, have fun people!
Cheers~
 

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:WaitWhat: Huh? Where are they? I've never seen them...? Any options I'm missing?
I'd assume if you start a new arcology and set the "proportion of slave girls with dicks" to 0%, futa content won't appear in your game. The "Free Cities that understood that girls are girls" option in the intro will set that to 0%.

You can still change that during a running game if you go into Options -> Content & Flavor. Not sure if it will add the Futanari Sisters school if you do that after the school introduction though.
 
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Arasutaru

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didnt know where to ask but does anyone who uses comfyui have the issue where when you have the server of the game to use custom workflow it gives socket in use error? been trying to fix it for god know how long now
 

rhoghadessa

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As much as I like the wares of the Utopian Orphanage, I've gotten better stock from the Hippolyta Academy. They work wonders if you have the body purist and physical idealist fs and have a chance to roll with 90+ int if you never do the weekend event where you invest in the school lol. And they can have near perfect faces. The girls from the Utopian Orphanage need a little too much work for my taste.
Yeah, unless I'm doing a specific run like say Pastoralists, I usually go for the Utopian Orphanage and Hippolyta Academy as my usual schools I'd grab slaves from. Hippolyta Academy often does have slaves that show up with 100 Face right off the bat, though their Intelligence isn't always so high. They're always tall and fit as well, which is great for Physical Idealist as you say. They're always 20-29 years old as well.

But for Utopian Orphanage, after you invest in them, you'll often be able to roll for slaves with at least 60 Face (within range of achieving Perfect Face with a single Remote Surgery touch up) and at least 85 Intelligence (within range to hit 100 Intelligence with the intelligence boosting drugs). It will take a bit of rerolling sometimes though because they can show up with as low as 65 Intelligence; which isn't so bad, but if you're going to be picky about it, might as well go for the best. On the other hand, the Utopian Orphanage slaves will also almost always be at the lowest age setting you set in Pregmod, which can be a bad thing.

As far as 'standard' slave schools go though the Slave School itself I feel like is currently one of the worst ones to go for. The slaves from them are too variable, while not giving you outright dumb slaves will sometimes give ugly slaves, and because their slaves are almost always 18 years old (age of majority), they charge a premium for them. Even the school upgrade for them doesn't make them worth it. The other school I don't like at all is that school that removes all genitals completely, though that's purely because of my anti-anal tastes - and that school only exists to produce oral/anal slaves. I suppose they're great if you're running Eugenics and don't want to just sterilise slaves, though.
 
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I'd assume if you start a new arcology and set the "proportion of slave girls with dicks" to 0%, futa content won't appear in your game. The "Free Cities that understood that girls are girls" option in the intro will set that to 0%.
Ah okay... Makes sense lol
You can still change that during a running game if you go into Options -> Content & Flavor. Not sure if it will add the Futanari Sisters school if you do that after the school introduction though.
That didn't work :confused: Dammit... Oh well, next playthrough, I guess.


But for Utopian Orphanage, after you invest in them, you'll often be able to roll for slaves with at least 60 Face [...] and at least 85 Intelligence [...].
The problem I have with UO is that they often have body shape issues (too thin waist or mannish shoulders) which sometimes get fixed, but often don't.
at 80+ Face and thus I don't need to touch them as it'll naturally go up to 100 when they're Worshipful and Profoundly Trusting
This has never happened to me, though...? I have multiple girls who are at 80-90 face and Worshipful and Profoundly Trusting but nothing...? Maybe there's another condition I'm missing?

As far as 'standard' slave schools go though the Slave School itself I feel like is currently one of the worst ones to go for. [...] The other school I don't like at all is that school that removes all genitals completely [...]
Yeah, the cattle ranch is great for the dairy, hippolyta academy for farmgirls, and the utopian orphanage for basically everything else (if you don't mind the sub-optimal body types), but the rest aren't great if you're running body purism and physical idealism like I am :ROFLMAO:

Wetware CPU swapped into a husk and then fixed up is still the cheapest way to fill leadership roles with the perfect girls tho imo (but paternalism hates this, so I always have to delay paternalism till I have all the girls I want from the CPU makers. Hopefully one of the updates later down the line activates the code that adds the sellers to the black market.)
 

Arasutaru

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i noted ther was a crap ton of updates in the github since i last played and saw something abt events? do sex events finally get gen'd? it seems we can render events but not sure which or when
 

rhoghadessa

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This has never happened to me, though...? I have multiple girls who are at 80-90 face and Worshipful and Profoundly Trusting but nothing...? Maybe there's another condition I'm missing?
As far as I am aware, for the girls' Face to automatically start pushing towards 100 by themselves, the basic conditions are:
- (Current) Face: At least 80
- Devotion: >=95
- Trust: >=95

Then in their Week End report, it'll say something like about 'minute flaws' on their face going away or something, in dark green text. If there were additional criteria required for that I'm not sure off the top of my head; maybe doing too much plastic surgery can make that impossible to happen? I always play like a Body Purist and never do implants/excessive plastic surgery (enough to maintain 'All Natural').

Yeah, the cattle ranch is great for the dairy, hippolyta academy for farmgirls, and the utopian orphanage for basically everything else (if you don't mind the sub-optimal body types), but the rest aren't great if you're running body purism and physical idealism like I am :ROFLMAO:
The male version of the Hippolyta Academy, the Gymnasium-Academy, is apparently also pretty good if you run pastoralists. That's because Semen is much more valuable than just breast milk, and they come out tall and fit as well. Though if one wanted to min-max their gains from the slave schools, the Futanari Sisters is probably still the best - their 'upgrade' lets you pick between having them go with your typical Japanese hentai futanari (vestigal/internal balls Futanari), or huge balls futanari. Huge balls mean more semen, so you can break the game real easily by having a bunch of gigantic titty futanaris with huge balls in your Dairy (especially if you created some right at the start).

I'm not sure if you have to join their orgies a few times as well or not for it to trigger as well as having done an upgrade for them, but when you've got a fully upgraded Organ Farm and such, the Futanari Sisters will approach you for permission to use it. Namely, they want permission to use them to have ovaries printed to them all (because the Futanari Sisters, genetics-wise, are XY (male)). So I think until that event fires the Futanari Sisters girls can't become pregnant and will have a Masculine hormone balance at the start.
 

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I think the random face improvement is from fem hormone balance, but it is very slow. Like if you aren't lucky, maybe you only get +1 face over 10 weeks. Hadn't noticed the random +10 from aphrodisiacs though, that's pretty good.
 
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