VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1-7 v0.73] [NeonGhosts]

[Pixillin']

I hate her character for the same reason I hate people who enable addicts and fuck-ups in their lives and let them drag you down alongside them.
That's why I think the game will be better without her after the first chapter.

Yeah, the reason she's gone so long is that she tries to avoid dragging the MC into her shit, until she has nowhere left to go - then she asks if she can stay for a few days until she figures something out. A romantic relationship is the MC's idea (if you go that route), buying her new stuff is the MC's idea, giving her a job is the MC's idea, putting her in her own apartment (where she pays rent) is the MC's idea. Since then she hasn't tried to drag the MC into anything - Brent sorta does, but not Nicky. All she does is be a good girlfriend (if you go that route) and basically do so well as an assistant that the MC complains that he has nothing to do a few times. So I fail to see how she's like an addict who tries to drag you into her shit.

Like Dess said - Risa IS an addict who tries very hard to drag you into her shit, both the sex ring and shit with her father (who threatens MC and sorta Nicky too). Trying to fix Risa's shit is the most dangerous thing in the game so far (for the MC).

 

[Dessolos]

What the hell are you talking about?
I referred to Nicki's relationship with Brent and how she enabled his crazy spendings and his behavior until he dragged both of them down like the degenerate that he is.

well if you only consider old chapter 1 then yeah but that is the only time she is like that otherwise her return she is nothing like that at all. Which imo isn't fair to only count chapter 1 and not the rest.

Remake Chapter 1 from what I recall you can choose not to give her money and she doesn't even ask for it at least on the good path. She does enable Brent I will give you that but her not asking for the money makes her the opposite of what you describe since she is trying to deal with on her own and not involving the MC unless you just choose to help.

Yeah, the reason she's gone so long is that she tries to avoid dragging the MC into her shit, until she has nowhere left to go - then she asks if she can stay for a few days until she figures something out. A romantic relationship is the MC's idea (if you go that route), buying her new stuff is the MC's idea, giving her a job is the MC's idea, putting her in her own apartment (where she pays rent) is the MC's idea. Since then she hasn't tried to drag the MC into anything - Brent sorta does, but not Nicky. All she does is be a good girlfriend (if you go that route) and basically do so well as an assistant that the MC complains that he has nothing to do a few times. So I fail to see how she's like an addict who tries to drag you into her shit.

Like Dess said - Risa IS an addict who tries very hard to drag you into her shit, both the sex ring and shit with her father (who threatens MC and sorta Nicky too). Trying to fix Risa's shit is the most dangerous thing in the game so far (for the MC).

haha wish I saw your reply before I made mine yours is much better than mine and I could not agree more

 

[MF_DOOM]

She does enable Brent

That's exactly my problem with Nicki as a character, she let Brent drive her in a garbage truck all the way to the dump.
I hate people like that.

 

[Dessolos]

That's exactly my problem with Nicki as a character, she let Brent drive her in a garbage truck all the way to the dump.
I hate people like that.

that's fair if you dislike her for that even tho I disagree for your reasoning. ( tho that's cause im an introvert and I can understand that kind of behavior) But to say she drags the MC down with her is where I more or less hard disagree with you.

 

[Pixillin']

that's fair if you dislike her for that even tho I disagree for your reasoning. ( tho that's cause im an introvert and I can understand that kind of behavior) But to say she drags the MC down with her is where I more or less hard disagree with you.

IIRC Neon also said something about her coming from an abusive background - if that's the case it's not unusual for her to hook up with an abusive boyfriend. And after he ran up all that debt the first time, she goes back - with the money to get out of shit and every intention of breaking up with him but by the time she gets there he's already gotten them both in more shit - which she spends 9 months trying to get out from under before she shows up at MC's door. And she had left Brent anyway, he'd just dropped the whole problem he created in her lap before he left.

 

[MF_DOOM]

that's fair if you dislike her for that even tho I disagree for your reasoning. ( tho that's cause im an introvert and I can understand that kind of behavior) But to say she drags the MC down with her is where I more or less hard disagree with you.

No I was not talking about the MC at all, I was referring to how she enabled Brents crazy behavior and giving him money every time to spend on bullshit which resulted in her loosing everything basically and getting a bunch of ugly tattoos by some pevr as a gift.

 

[Dessolos]

I hate her character for the same reason I hate people who enable addicts and fuck-ups in their lives and let them drag you down alongside them.

this is why I thought you were including the MC. because of how you said drag you down along side them but if you weren't my bad. So in my mind that sentence included the MC. But if you were just referring to Brent bit then yeah I can't disagree there at all.

 

[MF_DOOM]

this is why I thought you were including the MC. because of how you said drag you down along side them but if you weren't my bad. So in my mind that sentence included the MC. But if you were just referring to Brent bit then yeah I can't disagree there at all.

Yeah, I guess I could have phrased it better, My bad.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

If I remember correctly, you need to rape her and mess your relationship with Carolina for her to be gone.
It would have been best if she never returns after chapter 1.

Actually, the connection with Carolina is the opposite; if you rape Nicki for the nth time in your condo while Maya is in the other room, you tank your relationship with Carolina (Nicki warns her about Guy).

For Nicki to disappear, you have to stay on the dark path and be totally unrelenting and unapologetic about it. Otherwise, she'll stick around and put up with Guy some more.

 

[ramvivat]

If I were a MC, I would suggest Mason write a book about what it's like to be a guy in a girl's body. It would help Mason get on his feet in life.

 

[Ragnar]

No I was not talking about the MC at all, I was referring to how she enabled Brents crazy behavior and giving him money every time to spend on bullshit which resulted in her loosing everything basically and getting a bunch of ugly tattoos by some pevr as a gift.

Please, no more Nicki criticism. The last thing we need is another remake

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Please, no more Nicki criticism. The last thing we need is another remake

Didn't you hear? Neon is going to remake it again... and again.. and again.. He will feed on this forum's tortured and desperate comments for eternity

 

[Joshy92]

Didn't you hear? Neon is going to remake it again... and again.. and again.. He will feed on this forum's tortured and desperate comments for eternity

Maybe he will add a secret Jamie route?

Guy could tear his arse open and show him a good time

 

[ffive]

Maybe he will add a secret Jamie route?

Guy could tear his arse open and show him a good time

 

[soprano31]

Maybe he will add a secret Jamie route?

Guy could tear his arse open and show him a good time

 

[MF_DOOM]

Maybe he will add a secret Jamie route?

Guy could tear his arse open and show him a good time

 

[ramvivat]

That's exactly my problem with Nicki as a character, she let Brent drive her in a garbage truck all the way to the dump.
I hate people like that.

heh, that's exactly how overcompensation works. You can't forgive yourself for something, for the mistakes of your youth, and so behavior like yours performed by someone else hurts the most and that's why it's annoying, since you can't influence the plot of the VN. I know that. I'm not laughing, dude. Although of course it's none of my business.

peace, comrade!

 

[CrazyRabbit]

I know, right?
Whenever I want to try a darker PT, I always end up either lovers with Nicki or best friends. For me, the content from other routes with her just doesn't exist.

In general, what makes FiN stand out from the mass of games with love/lust/dark MC paths is that they are really different. Usually, the devs pay attention only to the dark path (or corruption, humilation, whatever) If you don't choose the dark options you'll get basically the same playthrough with the same plot, events, dialogues only the lewd scenes will be skipped.

But in this game they are really different paths. The most striking example is Ashe: if the MC treats her with love and respect, he will be rewarded with a bunch of different lewd scenes in which she happily participates, enjoys doing kinky things and takes the initiative.

Well done.

Completely true.

Every path is carefully crafted, there are positive and negative way of behaving for LIs, fear, love, humiliation, hatred....
I can't play a dark path so I'm either a friend, best friend, FWB or full lover and I love that game for that. So much care and nuances in every path with every LI...

I must say it is indeed refreshing compared to most game where entire pages of scripts are skipped if you're not behaving like a horny animal.

 

[dudemanbrodude]

Chapter 5 was very short for me, I feel like I missed something....

 

[ffive]

Chapter 5 was very short for me, I feel like I missed something....

Which Chapter was it? Note that the game includes a couple of episodes (Brent's PoV and Halloween costume stuff e.g.) which were originally small side-stories and got eventually integrated into the game proper.