VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

[NeonGhosts]

is it me this run or did the dev change what can take place in the office with Pepper

Nope! Hasn’t been touched.

I’d have to check, but I think some of those options are dependent on mcdark points. So, if you’re on a mostly good path with everyone else, you may not be able to get all of Pepper’s dark content.

I use dark points as kind of a reference for how reckless and unhinged MC is capable of being, among other things.

 

[Xypher]

Yup, sorry everybody, only good, clean vanilla fun with Nicki from now on. I definitely don't intentionally put in a ton of options that enable you to be super dominant and uninterested in romance, while still keeping the love interests around.

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It's fine Neon, I love vanilla/wholesome route for Nicki as well, especially her friendship bond w/ Guy, it's sweet af.

 

[Bad Wolf]

It's not so much about realism as is about keeping the story somewhat grounded and believeable. Characters have to follow the rules of the universe they are in, otherwise is shitty writing, If the story offers no consequences for your actions than what is the point in having choices and paths in the first place if the end result is all the same?

I personally don't care if either path has repercussions or not. I just roll with whatever punches come my way due to my choices. If I get fucked over and lose a girl because I made a bad choice, so be it. I can easily go back and change whatever I did, if I want to. That's why I make saves at important decisions.

Anyone who gets upset over punishments/repercussions for their decisions, like losing girls, goin to jail, or even gettin murdered by a father, have other things goin on in their brain that I will not get into.

 

[EvolutionKills]

For those who played the latest update, investigated Cutiedoll, and wondered 'What in the ever-living-fuck is this a reference to?

Well, here you go.



Don't be put off by the video's length, the TikTok NPC streamer bit takes up just the first 17 minutes.

 

[ImperialD]

Nope! Hasn’t been touched.

I’d have to check, but I think some of those options are dependent on mcdark points. So, if you’re on a mostly good path with everyone else, you may not be able to get all of Pepper’s dark content.

I use dark points as kind of a reference for how reckless and unhinged MC is capable of being, among other things.

ok thanks .. i did runs thru both paths ... but i would guess it was some choices i made different both times

 

[varage]

Actually, it's an adult visual novel first and foremost. It has sex in it and other adult elements, but at the end of the day it's still a novel. There are many differing styles of these as well, some more sex focused and fast paced. Others more story-driven and/or slow-burn. This definitely falls into the more story focused side of things, with the sex and lewd scenes being an element that adds another layer to the story, but doesn't take the forefront.

Meanwhile, there are other novels/games where sex is in the forefront, it IS the focus of those games. It sounds like those games/novels might be more your speed. I say this because to me it seems like you're looking for porn instead of a story or even a game. This makes me wonder why you don't just go watch porn at that point though, or just go download games/novels and use a gallery un-locker, there's your porn.

You're not wrong definitely ways to make them stay but it will have to have some "love" scenes. Because you have to make her fall for you a believe there's good deep down inside you. So, she essentially falls in love with you while you don't with her and when her friends ask what you see in this guy she'll say he has a good side. Even if it doesn't exist. She will believe it does. Did he say he was reworking chapter 1 again?
But dropping all dark scenes with Nikki is a hella mistake. If that's what Neons going for because Nikki's already the most hated LI in game don't know why I love her and I liked her original look when she came to the door in chapter 1 the first time. She's so hated she's been patched out of the game lol I can only imagine what it'll be like if she no longer has dark content haha.
If he goes a dark love route he just needs to remember that NIKKI loves MC. MC doesn't love Nikki he controls NIKKI. It's tough to write but it is a trope for a reason. As for realism this is a relationship that is as real as time itself they have documentarys on why people stay in abusive relationships. Just throw lifetime on.

 

[EvolutionKills]

I always name him fucker, which is just endless fun, because everyone calls him fucker

Pro-Tip: Name the character 'I say!', and you turn every conversation into a Foghorn Leghorn skit.

 

[varage]

I personally don't care if either path has repercussions or not. I just roll with whatever punches come my way due to my choices. If I get fucked over and lose a girl because I made a bad choice, so be it. I can easily go back and change whatever I did, if I want to. That's why I make saves at important decisions.

Anyone who gets upset over punishments/repercussions for their decisions, like losing girls, goin to jail, or even gettin murdered by a father, have other things goin on in their brain that I will not get into.

I think it's more they are scared he's going for a ONLY love route with a girl tbh. Meaning they don't think they'll get anymore dark scenes with her. TBH Ashley rape scene on lives stream should a been one of those "BAD choices" you're talking about haha. except it should a ended with the cops beating your door down from a realism stand point.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

And here i am wondering if i should wait until the update comes to my tier or just play it already.

 

[Bad Wolf]

I think it's more they are scared he's going for a ONLY love route with a girl tbh. Meaning they don't think they'll get anymore dark scenes with her. TBH Ashley rape scene on lives stream should a been one of those "BAD choices" you're talking about haha. except it should a ended with the cops beating your door down from a realism stand point.

Either way, doesn't affect me. I have two saves: Gabby - Love/Mason - Love.

 

[varage]

Either way, doesn't affect me. I have two saves: Gabby - Love/Mason - Love.

Don't effect me in the least I don't like the rape scenes tbh lol. I'm just saying I see from their perspective. I'd be upset if I love woo'd a girl and then at chapter 4 they locked me into a DARK path with her. "Meaning even if I went a dry run where I only focused on her by the end she'd end up as a foot stool for me in my mansion after retirement."

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Either way, doesn't affect me. I have two saves: Gabby - Love/Mason - Love.

Carolina ftw.

Maybe Viola too, both love path obviously.

 

[NebulousShooter]

First I want to state again, I'm not saying the dev is out of line for making the story they want. I fully believe a dev should tell the story they want to. Of course I also don't think that devs should go back and change things (this "Nicki remake" makes me nervous).

That said I don't give a fuck about believability or realism. I want entertainment which until Nicki left I was getting 100% from this vn. The dev may want to shy away from it but is damn good at creating hot depraved scenes.

You asked the point in it? To be entertained, if I want morals, consequences and deeper meaning the last place I'd turn is an adult visual novel. I know it's not a porn vn but the dev is really strong in writing hot scenes which I enjoy and is the reason I play this vn.

Everyone is different. I'm happy for those that love the vanilla path, but don't you think they would be a little upset if an li left because the mc was too nice?

I think this dev has talent. I wish no ill on them nor am I mad. Something I enjoyed is no more and it's just sad. No biggie.

While him being good at hot scenario is true, I think you are dismissing IMO his biggest talent, which from the games I played so far he seems unparalleled in, and that is attention to details across multiple possible routes and scenarios and all of them happen as consequences of what the MC has done so far in the game. Every small variation in renders and/or dialogue comes as a consequence of past choices, its unfortunate that one of those had an undesirable result for you, but if you treat them like a monster constantly, it makes sense for them to try to escape their fate, eventually.

Nicki specifically since among Vaughn, the Loan shark dude, Brent and MC, MC on the dark path has done the worst to her, not even close. Expecting her to take it from start to finish of the VN, it would mean character progress hasn't happened and in any type of media where characters end the same way they started the story are badly written. And Neon is not a bad writer.

If you were expecting this to be the Dark Version of WVM where no matter how you play you still win everything, sorry, then you haven't been paying attention...

 

[Bad Wolf]

Don't effect me in the least I don't like the rape scenes tbh lol. I'm just saying I see from their perspective. I'd be upset if I love woo'd a girl and then at chapter 4 they locked me into a DARK path with her. "Meaning even if I went a dry run where I only focused on her by the end she'd end up as a foot stool for me in my mansion after retirement."

Well, it would be fun for a one time RP event with your girl. Hell, my ol' lady wanted me to collar her and walk her around the living room on a leash like she was a puppy once. It was funny though. Did it, don't need to do it again though.

 

[Joshy92]

While him being good at hot scenario is true, I think you are dismissing IMO his biggest talent, which from the games I played so far he seems unparalleled in, and that is attention to details across multiple possible routes and scenarios and all of them happen as consequences of what the MC has done so far in the game. Every small variation in renders and/or dialogue comes as a consequence of past choices, its unfortunate that one of those had an undesirable result for you, but if you treat them like a monster constantly, it makes sense for them to try to escape their fate, eventually.

Nicky specifically since among Vaughn, the Loan shark dude, Brent and MC, MC on the dark path has done the worst to her, not even close. Expecting her to take it from start to finish of the VN, it would mean character progress hasn't happened and in any type of media where characters end the same way they started the story are badly written. And Neon is not a bad writer.

If you were expecting this to be the Dark Version of WVM where no matter how you play you still win everything, sorry, then you haven't been paying attention...

I personally think Neon is one of the best writers on here.
His writing is way better than alot of the popular games on here imo.

 

[varage]

Well, it would be fun for a one time RP event with your girl. Hell, my ol' lady wanted me to collar her and walk her around the living room on a leash like she was a puppy once. It was funny though. Did it, don't need to do it again though.

Yea but thats role play haha. Thats not the same as what im talking about. "Of what i think they're worrying about."
Example.
Chapter 1: I'll use nikki as an example she's freshist in my mind. (Kiss her/Nothing just take the money
Chapter 2: knock/be sweet
Chapter 3: Let her join you in bed love scene
Chapter 4: tell her you would fall in love with get a picket fence live happily ever after./ask her on a date.
Chapter 5: Tell her to fuck off and you never wanna see her again, or rape her -only choices-
chapter 6-End of game: spend the rest of the game degrading her and making her into a sex slave. edit: With a picket fence of course.

 

[armond]

I personally think Neon is one of the best writers on here.
His writing is way better than alot of the popular games on here imo.

I think you're underselling it a little, the cohesion between all the different routs and options and choices that actually matter, by the standards of what you generally see on this site, Neon is essentially a Master of storytelling.

 

[depeche mode]

brittanis mom is so going to get it

 

[Bad Wolf]

Yea but thats role play haha. Thats not the same as what im talking about. "Of what i think they're worrying about."
Example.
Chapter 1: I'll use nikki as an example she's freshist in my mind. (Kiss her/Nothing just take the money
Chapter 2: knock/be sweet
Chapter 3: Let her join you in bed love scene
Chapter 4: tell her you would fall in love with her and ask her on a date get a picket fence live happily ever after./ask her on a date.
Chapter 5: Tell her to fuck off and you never wanna see her again, or rape her -only choices-
chapter 6-End of game: spend the rest of the game degrading her and making her into a sex slave.

I get what you're saying. I just know no one has anything to worry about when it comes to NeonGhosts's writing. He will never pigeonhole anyone into a path they don't want.

 

[SlapE]

You're not wrong definitely ways to make them stay but it will have to have some "love" scenes. Because you have to make her fall for you a believe there's good deep down inside you. So, she essentially falls in love with you while you don't with her and when her friends ask what you see in this guy she'll say he has a good side. Even if it doesn't exist. She will believe it does. Did he say he was reworking chapter 1 again?
But dropping all dark scenes with Nikki is a hella mistake. If that's what Neons going for because Nikki's already the most hated LI in game don't know why I love her and I liked her original look when she came to the door in chapter 1 the first time. She's so hated she's been patched out of the game lol I can only imagine what it'll be like if she no longer has dark content haha.
If he goes a dark love route he just needs to remember that NIKKI loves MC. MC doesn't love Nikki he controls NIKKI. It's tough to write but it is a trope for a reason. As for realism this is a relationship that is as real as time itself they have documentarys on why people stay in abusive relationships. Just throw lifetime on.

I think you replied to the wrong person with this post there bud, figured I'd let you know.