VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

[Dessolos]

Nah its time efficient. Instead of playing the same main story again and again for 10 LI, you could play it once for 10 LI.

eh I don't see it as that when I can use ctrl skip through content ive seen doesn't really feel like im playing the game 10 times. Even so I personally find the idea of harems boring and just takes me out of the game and the thrill of winning the girl over / finally getting them to be my girlfriend. As it just doesn't feel special to me when that is going to happen to the other 9 girls and they won't have a problem with sharing the MC / act like it's no big deal or it's normal most of the time. Not just that the relationships usually always feel really weird to me in harems in most games when the girls know about it. Doesn't mean I won't play them if I like the characters or story but just not for me at all.

That's why I agreed with him , I do get why many do like them as it's just a little bit more convenient not by much or it's just a fantasy they have and enjoy.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

One thing I'm going to try to do, is open up some of the corruption options so there's a little more flexibility/light path potential. You can already "just" be fuck-buddies with Nicki, without being romantic. A character like Mason or Risa would be amenable to a "situationship" without monogamy, because of their personal views on sex. I still plan on adding a light sugarbaby route for Gabby, and softening Ashe's corruption route so you can get on her light corruption route without being a dick. Chapter 10 has a character imply she might be interested in a no-strings situation.

Now, are you going to be able to marry nine girls at the end? No. But, I think there will be a way to have a less serious relationship with most of the girls.

I'm not a fan of no strings attached

and I hate fuck-buddies

I have separate save files for each

and all I ask is the option to talk the girls I love into a monogamous relationship

with babies and everything

 

[Dessolos]

I'm not a fan of no strings attached

and I hate fuck-buddies

I have separate save files for each

and all I ask is the option to talk the girls I love into a monogamous relationship

with babies and everything

Same I can only tolerate fuck buddies or no strings attached if evolves from FWB to a serious monogamous relationship. If it only stays at that just isn't for me as if I know there will never be anything serious hard to feel anything for the relationship even if I do feel something for the character.

Which is why one of my favorite AVN characters I hate and won't play her FWB path instead I wait until chapter 7 to have sex with her as at that point she is actually ready to start something serious. So I miss alot of content by doing that but worth it.

 

[Deleted member 8029906]

Plenty of games on this site with that content. Use the tag search. You'll find something. That content doesn't fit the plot of this game.

yeah but most of them are abandoned or html games which are just plain text with pictures, there are only quite few of them and sissification tag didnt helped much but somehow came here where i looked up for mtf, thank u tho

 

[AlexMpog]

eh I don't see it as that when I can use ctrl skip through content ive seen doesn't really feel like im playing the game 10 times. Even so I personally find the idea of harems boring and just takes me out of the game and the thrill of winning the girl over / finally getting them to be my girlfriend. As it just doesn't feel special to me when that is going to happen to the other 9 girls and they won't have a problem with sharing the MC / act like it's no big deal or it's normal most of the time. Not just that the relationships usually always feel really weird to me in harems in most games when the girls know about it. Doesn't mean I won't play them if I like the characters or story but just not for me at all.

That's why I agreed with him , I do get why many do like them as it's just a little bit more convenient not by much or it's just a fantasy they have and enjoy.

Agreed

Also for me it's hard to take a LI as a character seriously in harem.
One moment she is all lovey-dovey and even jealous, and another moment she is like "oh, you wanna fuck another women?- sure, I don't mind".

It feels like she is not really genuine in her feelings lol.
There are a few exceptions, but almost all my Fav LIs are from non-harem games.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Same I can only tolerate fuck buddies or no strings attached if evolves from FWB to a serious monogamous relationship. If it only stays at that just isn't for me as if I know there will never be anything serious hard to feel anything for the relationship even if I do feel something for the character.

Which is why one of my favorite AVN characters I hate and won't play her FWB path instead I wait until chapter 7 to have sex with her as at that point she is actually ready to start something serious. So I miss alot of content by doing that but worth it.

exactly I have multiple saved files

but right now my two favorite girls seem like they're ready to start a serious relationship

one of the reasons why I prefer Ashe as my number one

because it feels like she always wanted a serious relationship with me

and I never had to beg

and if I told her I wanted kids she give me a baby

 

[Machete]

Agreed

I think it depends how you build it. If if makes sense with the story it can be nice to just get them all, see like Desert Stalker. In other games where the chicks are like "hey babe, now you join my harem" "oky doky, darling!", just because, then it can go from lame to cheesy to plain annoying.

 

[Elduriel]

exactly I have multiple saved files

but right now my two favorite girls seem like they're ready to start a serious relationship

one of the reasons why I prefer Ashe as my number one

because it feels like she always wanted a serious relationship with me

and I never had to beg

and if I told her I wanted kids she give me a baby

I have one for Nicki gf, one for Ashe, and a fuckboy one where it's mostly just sex no hard commitment. That could split into more once some others routes are developed more.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I have one for Nicki gf, one for Ashe, and a fuckboy one where it's mostly just sex no hard commitment. That could split into more once some others routes are developed more.

I haven't played in a while I've been saving up my updates but Nicki is my second save

I'm really tempted to start playing it again when this update comes out or saving it up

 

[Maviarab]

and softening Ashe's corruption route so you can get on her light corruption route without being a dick.

Nooooo...is perfect as it is!

 

[Deleted member 313508]

I can get behind Desert Stalker harem because it makes sense but in most games doesn't make any sense.
The anime harem trope is trash period.

The loving harem makes sense in that world. It's one of my favorite games for that reason.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Nooooo...is perfect as it is!

I'm sure there will be options. There are already a ton of options in this game that don't require major deviations to the plot but still give a good flavor with different thoughts and dialogue. That's what makes this game great. The paths are similiar enough that renders can be reused across them, but the FEEL of the paths are totally different. I wish more games did it this way. But most seem to just want to railroad you into what is essentially a kinetic game.

 

[Ragnar]

The loving harem makes sense in that world. It's one of my favorite games for that reason.

Yeah, there should be a good reason for women to share a guy besides "magic dick". I can see it in FiN if Guy becomes the sugar daddy of some poor girls, like we can see it irl with instathots and some rich guy. Not love, just business.
On the good Guy route some threesomes can work but nothing more than that imo. In example Nikki already shows envy toward other girs and she is not the MC girlfriend, same goes for Ashe during breakfast.

 

[Dogorti]

Harems can work but it depends on the girl's personalities and if they don't agree to the idea of the harem at first, I mean if you make all the girls cuckqueans it's pretty boring. In this game it could work with a few girls and depending on the path. But yeah, harems with 30 girls are usually bad, my preferred limit is about 6-8 girls.

 

[Dessolos]

exactly I have multiple saved files

but right now my two favorite girls seem like they're ready to start a serious relationship

one of the reasons why I prefer Ashe as my number one

because it feels like she always wanted a serious relationship with me

and I never had to beg

and if I told her I wanted kids she give me a baby

My main saves are Ashe , Nicki and Risa I keep bouncing between these 3 as my #1 for different reasons. Ashe and Nicki you can have an actual relationship with. While I don't know if Risa will ever be more than FWB sadly at least not for a long while. Not because she doesn't want one but cause of her issues prevent her from having one. So im hoping Guy can help out to the point she will get into one eventually as I do really like her character and feel bad for her and just want to be there for her and honestly I find her alot of fun to be around.

 

[NeonGhosts]

I'm sure there will be options. There are already a ton of options in this game that don't require major deviations to the plot but still give a good flavor with different thoughts and dialogue. That's what makes this game great. The paths are similiar enough that renders can be reused across them, but the FEEL of the paths are totally different. I wish more games did it this way. But most seem to just want to railroad you into what is essentially a kinetic game.

Yeah, I should've clarified, this light corruption path would be in addition to her jerk corruption path. I see them as having a similar trajectory, but one is more about Guy/the player extorting her, while the other is more of an enticement. "I could be very good for your career," vs "I could be very bad for your career."

Currently, there's already the possibility for Ashe to warm up to Guy after she sees him save Viola from her landlord, and generally behave decently. This proposed new route would just make it easier to get there. I could even see getting there from the purely nice route, if for example the player didn't let her sleep over on night one, and made it clear he sees her as more of a bootycall than a potential relationship.

 

[Joshy92]

Mason is very flexible so I always assumed he'd be okay with multiple girls heck he would let guy do whatever he wants.
I can't wait to see his face when I say 'you're the only one for me baby'

I do wonder though what would happen if I say I want to commit to a serious relationship with all the girls but then still fuck all of fhem.

 

[Dessolos]

I do wonder though what would happen if I say I want to commit to a serious relationship with all the girls but then still fuck all of fhem.

That's a save I usually make eventually on most games that arent harems. As I just like to see the chaos and outcome even tho it might be hard to watch making so many lovely ladies cry. But It's purely a curiosity save never a main save

 

[Joshy92]

That's a save I usually make eventually on most games that arent harems. As I just like to see the chaos and outcome even tho it might be hard to watch making so many lovely ladies cry. But It's purely a curiosity save never a main save

I can't cheat even on a separate save. I just think it will be interesting if later in the story a girl wants a serious commitment but I bang some other girl what will she do? I don't think she'll really care but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Lightaces]

One thing I'm going to try to do, is open up some of the corruption options so there's a little more flexibility/light path potential. You can already "just" be fuck-buddies with Nicki, without being romantic. A character like Mason or Risa would be amenable to a "situationship" without monogamy, because of their personal views on sex. I still plan on adding a light sugarbaby route for Gabby, and softening Ashe's corruption route so you can get on her light corruption route without being a dick. Chapter 10 has a character imply she might be interested in a no-strings situation.

Now, are you going to be able to marry nine girls at the end? No. But, I think there will be a way to have a less serious relationship with most of the girls.

Really, the only place a "harem" seems reasonable would be the corruption path. Gabby, Pepper, Nikki, Risa, and Mason all seem, on a corruption path, a real possibility to bring along that route. Maybe others, but I pay less attention to most of the rest. Even Viola, given the right carrot (paying her mother's medical bills) and stick (buying out her landlord, threatening eviction), could go down a very....interesting route. And boy, what a corruption that would be!

But the truly dark path just uses the girls up - we've already completely lost two of them, and there will be more to come, presumably. And that path should have harsh consequences for Guy. I like playing that route, but if Guy doesn't at least end up in prison, I'll be unhappy. Think of what happens to Lisbeth's guardian in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. That would be a perfectly reasonable outcome. All the girls gather round as Alex uses her foot to drive the point home. Yup, totally fair. Maybe after, the girls can have a little barbecue. But a good 40 year jail term works too.