VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

[Darklord1234]

Gabby is cute AF imo but yeah Nicki's whole arc is a shit show from beginning to end(so far).

 

[PyoT]

Mhmmm. Only played the good guy(tm) route, as far as I thought the decisions were "good" anyway, but the gap between ... trying not to be a blackmailing porn rapist guy, but then being an absolute lucky-perv porn protagonist in exchange ... that doesn't really work for me. It generally in other games doesn't already, but when it's in your face like this, in opposition to the "bad" choices, it really, really doesn't work for me.

I don't think it was awful or anything, I'm not even sure it could entirely be solved. Obviously it's a porn game, it must deliver on some porn content at some point. If playing the good guy route would (in an extreme) basically just be "skip all porn content" there'd be no point to that. But as it stands the disconnect is too strong for me.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Mhmmm. Only played the good guy(tm) route, as far as I thought the decisions were "good" anyway, but the gap between ... trying not to be a blackmailing porn rapist guy, but then being an absolute lucky-perv porn protagonist in exchange ... that doesn't really work for me. It generally in other games doesn't already, but when it's in your face like this, in opposition to the "bad" choices, it really, really doesn't work for me.

I don't think it was awful or anything, I'm not even sure it could entirely be solved. Obviously it's a porn game, it must deliver on some porn content at some point. If playing the good guy route would (in an extreme) basically just be "skip all porn content" there'd be no point to that. But as it stands the disconnect is too strong for me.

I'm confused; you want the good guy route to not have sex or? I'm not getting what you're trying to say sorry

 

[UltimateRidersC]

Gabby is cute AF imo but yeah Nicki's whole arc is a shit show from beginning to end(so far).

I disagree. Love dominate Nicki's!

 

[NeoEros]

Gabby is cute AF imo but yeah Nicki's whole arc is a shit show from beginning to end(so far).

Yeah Gabby might be my favorite LI so far (my current tier list: Gabby>Ash>Viola>Madison>Nicki>Brittani) because of her life experience and also her cuteness. It'll be really funny if there's a Gabby/Brittani/Madison route in the future where I can fuck Gabbie's stupid ex-bf up.

 

[Tuatha Dé]

As for the muscle girl, she'll be in the next update! Her name's Alex. There's actually a demo up under the $15 tier on my Patreon right now, which allows people to play through the prologue of the next update - it features content with Nicki, Alex, Carolina (not much, just a brief scene), and Pepper. Though, the sexual content is contained exclusively to Nicki. Here's a little teaser for Alex, who now has pink hair. I'd based her on this fitness influencer I have a crush on, and she changed her hair from blonde to pink, so it felt appropriate.

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I don't want to sound rude but Alex's face like something doesn't block me, I don't know if they are the eyes or the nose or eyebrows but I find it something strange, all your designs so far look spectacular but like this one particularly generates something strange for me.
P.S. Keep up the good work and we're all looking forward to chapter 4, good luck.

 

[Kukipett]

When i first started to play that game at the first release, i liked it but there was really some really bad options and the MC could get a total asshole. This was lefting me a bit worried that the game will just turn out to become some nasty rape fuck fantasy. Fortunately the dev seems to have made his MC more human. I totally liked the way he could have some raptus from frustration and anger but that he could calm down and be a nice guy.
I love the writing in this game, the more i play it the more i love it, i can say that it's one of my favorite game because it describes the human mind and feelings in the absolute right way.
I'm an old guy and i have seen a lot of nasty things and also beautiful things in my life and i love how this game is so close to what i experienced. Very good writing indeed!!

 

[NeonGhosts]

I don't want to sound rude but Alex's face like something doesn't block me, I don't know if they are the eyes or the nose or eyebrows but I find it something strange, all your designs so far look spectacular but like this one particularly generates something strange for me.
P.S. Keep up the good work and we're all looking forward to chapter 4, good luck.

Nah, I noticed it too, but too late to do much about it. I think it's a combination of a few things, though.

• I didn't pay enough attention to her makeup. The character's eyes look a bit small-ish without eyeshadow, and her face doesn't have significant contouring detail.
• The lighting in MC/Guy's condo is kind of flat and sterile by design, which tends to wash everyone out a bit.
• I'm still figuring out what the best sliders/expressions are for her.

It's also possible her design may just not work for some people! She has a strong jaw and nose, which differs from a lot of the button-nosed girls introduced so far. And you mentioned her brows - they are really light, since she's supposed to be a natural blonde, but I think they're a little too light, to the point of looking barely-there.

Still, I think once we see her in better lighting conditions, with better make-up, she'll look better.

 

[Drafox]

I have to agree that Nicki's appearance is off putting and will always remind you that some weirdo forced her to turn her body into a canvas..If there is an option to help her remove the tats since the MC is filthy rich and can afford it, things will get slightly better. Next step will be tracking his ass down and putting a bullet in his skull.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I don't mind both of their designs (Alex and Nicki).

 

[Khan Targaryen]

Wish I could kick Nikki out the damned house, only came over to beg for money, fuck out of here. I'm not asshole-ish enough to rape her and she's also not that appealing so that leaves me in a pinch.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

It is because of Nicki that the story of the game unfolds. So you can't really take her out of it.
Besides you don't really need to have sex with her, can just stay in friendly terms with clear boundaries.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

It is because of Nicki that the story of the game unfolds. So you can't really take her out of it.
Besides you don't really need to have sex with her, can just stay in friendly terms with clear boundaries.

Ya.... maybe I'm dumb or something, but I really just don't get the hatred for poor Nicki lol she's such a battered LI in more ways than one

 

[Darklord1234]

If you can't understand why people hate Nicki then you must not have read anything lol.

 

[BillyPlums]

If you can't understand why people hate Nicki then you must not have read anything lol.

Because, of course, nobody could read this story any way other than the way you did.

When I read the story, I could see that Nicki is a battered girlfriend. She felt se had no options other than to do what dickwad (I forget his name) said. So she dressed up like he wanted, and tried to seduce the MC into giving some cash.

Is this the only way to see this? Of course not. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

If you can't understand why people hate Nicki then you must not have read anything lol.

I played the game, she's fine in my book A good bit of the criticisms are either pure preference, like tats which don't bother me, or stuff that sounds kind of silly to me, in sort of the same way that some people insist their college LIs or MILFs to be virgins or something, so I'll just skip over those. The writing ones, though, I just don't get.... the game is called "Friends in Need", and the first literal friend in need people hate her because she needs cash bad enough to ask for it. Haven't any of you guys known someone who's really weak-willed and easily manipulated? Add to that desperation, and that's Nicki's whole point I thought is she's easy to run over (which is why the dark path is so fun btw ); it starts with her (now ex-)bf, potentially continues with you, and then finally two more men afterwards. I don't get why that's hate-worthy? Maybe frustrating for people who aren't doormats because we wouldn't fall into that hole to begin with and the way out seems so clear to us, but there are lots of women like that around who don't work that way, I've known them. I was actually listening to an evolutionary psychologist a while back who specializes on the sexes and he talked about the methods of some very abusive men who manage to keep some of these women and why it actually works; it's tragic and depressing, but also was a very interesting and educational listen: Andrew Huberman & David Buss if anyone's curious. Just imagine something like that going on in the background.

Anyways, I don't get the hate, but to each their own I guess

 

[Khan Targaryen]

Because, of course, nobody could read this story any way other than the way you did.

When I read the story, I could see that Nicki is a battered girlfriend. She felt se had no options other than to do what dickwad (I forget his name) said. So she dressed up like he wanted, and tried to seduce the MC into giving some cash.

Is this the only way to see this? Of course not. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

No, she should've dumnped the fucker, obviously he didn't care about her. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. This is something plagues lots of people irl, even men.

Maybe frustrating for people who aren't doormats because we wouldn't fall into that hole to begin with and the way out seems so clear to us, but there are lots of women like that around who don't work that way, I've known them. I was actually listening to an evolutionary psychologist a while back who specializes on the sexes and he talked about the methods of some very abusive men who manage to keep some of these women and why it actually works; it's tragic and depressing, but also was a very interesting and educational listen: Andrew Huberman & David Buss if anyone's curious. Just imagine something like that going on in the background.

Anyways, I don't get the hate, but to each their own I guess

I agree with you somewhat, but only because I also know a pushover in my life(It's like talking to a brickwall. They say I'm right then go back to what they're doing. Pisses me off), especially when they come back to complain). Doesn't make me like her anymore though. I would help her, but I couldn't be friends with her until I got my 20k back, especially since she blew it because of her own stupidity. I'd also want her to be dressed in my house when she's not in her room or alone to keep things professional. I also don't know why the MC decided to get a stupid condo, I would've had a house made(Two floors with a basement, made from ICF and Steel). And where's his door at anyways?

End Repsonse.

I also don't like that you either have to be extremely forgiving and nice or a evil piece of shit, there should be a middle ground. And do you have to be a creep to be put on the lover route? End of chapter 3 and everyone's a friend only.|

EDIT: I actually like Nikki somewhat now, funny how things can change so quickly. She's still stupid for what she did though

 

[Khan Targaryen]

I have to agree that Nicki's appearance is off putting and will always remind you that some weirdo forced her to turn her body into a canvas..If there is an option to help her remove the tats since the MC is filthy rich and can afford it, things will get slightly better. Next step will be tracking his ass down and putting a bullet in his skull.

Forced her? No the hell he didn't, she could've refused and left, but she needed money because of her own bad decisions. Can't blame the dude for giving her 70k, you should be thinking about the scummy loan sharks.

 

[NewTricks]

Nikki would be a much more interesting character if she was actually as awful as her haters think she is.

 

[Rorikon215]

At the risk of being informed I'm very stupid and lack basic comprehension skills, I'm still baffled by the level of hatred she's getting. I remember being vaguely sympathetic, but then since it's a game and not real I went for all the most horrible options to do to her anyway. Not because I thought she was an awful person, but because *I'm* roleplaying as an awful person.

Speaking of which, when are we getting to the little sister content?


Also I don't get people moaning about the length of the halloween update either. Being that negative is hardly gonna be good for a creators morale.