VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

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korochan48

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Did the story change in remake or only renders? No need replay it right? I dont really care about renders if decent enough good enough for me.
 
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Because I love repeating myself: Chapter 1 was remade in its entirety -- I'd get into the reasons why, but let's just say it's because I wanted to personally hurt people's feelings that were looking forward to Chapter 11, and went through a lot of effort to do so.

The following chapters (2-10) needed to have some code and story beats updated, but I've tried to leave as much untouched as possible. While I'm going through the chapters line by line, I'm adding some renders here and there, and tweaking some dialogue. But we're talking about 100~ renders, for scenes I've already built, lit, etc. and 90% of it is in Chapters 2/3, with 20ish added to Ashe's date scene. As soon as that's done, I'll be re-releasing Chapters 1-10 as Season 1, and Chapter 11 will kick off Season 2.

Now, let's play Jump to Conclusions!

  • I'm Milking My Supporters: True! You got me, nobody tell those naughty little cows. ;)
  • I'm Trying to Avoid the Abandoned Tag on This Fine Pirate Site: True! Granted, Chapter 10 only came out in November, and the abandoned tag doesn't kick in for at least a year.. And the Blue Valentine mini-sode came out in February.. And the Chapter 11 teaser in March.. And now a full chapter in April.. Shit, I'm putting a lot of work into not working.
  • Steam Demanded I Change the Content: Truueeeee! As you can see, Friends in Need is already on Steam, but they demanded I strip out any naughty content. So, I'm reworking it as a farming sim. The new title will be Friends with Seed. It still sounds dirty, but it isn't.
  • I'm Abandoning the Game: Trrruuuuueee-- *
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ok NeonGhosts ... this remake did turn out pretty good .... why the change in Nikki .... i mean the old one was sexier i think ... not that i hate this one ....
anyway you did a good job in this remake kudo's .. i'll stick around for further updates :love:
 
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NeonGhosts said:
Because I love repeating myself: Chapter 1 was remade in its entirety -- I'd get into the reasons why, but let's just say it's because I wanted to personally hurt people's feelings that were looking forward to Chapter 11, and went through a lot of effort to do so.

The following chapters (2-10) needed to have some code and story beats updated, but I've tried to leave as much untouched as possible. While I'm going through the chapters line by line, I'm adding some renders here and there, and tweaking some dialogue. But we're talking about 100~ renders, for scenes I've already built, lit, etc. and 90% of it is in Chapters 2/3, with 20ish added to Ashe's date scene. As soon as that's done, I'll be re-releasing Chapters 1-10 as Season 1, and Chapter 11 will kick off Season 2.

Now, let's play Jump to Conclusions!

  • I'm Milking My Supporters: True! You got me, nobody tell those naughty little cows. ;)
  • I'm Trying to Avoid the Abandoned Tag on This Fine Pirate Site: True! Granted, Chapter 10 only came out in November, and the abandoned tag doesn't kick in for at least a year.. And the Blue Valentine mini-sode came out in February.. And the Chapter 11 teaser in March.. And now a full chapter in April.. Shit, I'm putting a lot of work into not working.
  • Steam Demanded I Change the Content: Truueeeee! As you can see, Friends in Need is already on Steam, but they demanded I strip out any naughty content. So, I'm reworking it as a farming sim. The new title will be Friends with Seed. It still sounds dirty, but it isn't.
  • I'm Abandoning the Game: Trrruuuuueee-- *
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ok, i feel relieved at least...and maybe i'm still an ass for suggesting this...but put a link to this on the front OP page. I looked for an explanation there and didn't find one...i thought you would have put it in the dev notes. i should have used the search function for re-work or maybe just your name...i'm not sure if that works...and maybe i would have found something, but i didnt. so here we are and i overreacted...like a lot of people. Im incredibly relieved to see that it's not a full rework. The only reason people get this pissed is irf something matters to them...so at least you know people love your game. Are we still going to get "friends in need" versions in the future? the links here are "friends indeed".
 
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ffive said:
There is little to no new images and animations to render. The dev is just adjusting code of subsequent chapters to be uniform with changes to variables made in the remake of Ch.1.

He is also simultaneously working on the next chapter of the game, but of course can't expect people who'd rather scream their head off that the sky is falling, to know that much. Even if he's mentioned in the thread more than a few times.
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yeah i just saw his new post thanks.
 
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NeonGhosts said:
Because I love repeating myself: Chapter 1 was remade in its entirety -- I'd get into the reasons why, but let's just say it's because I wanted to personally hurt people's feelings that were looking forward to Chapter 11, and went through a lot of effort to do so.

The following chapters (2-10) needed to have some code and story beats updated, but I've tried to leave as much untouched as possible. While I'm going through the chapters line by line, I'm adding some renders here and there, and tweaking some dialogue. But we're talking about 100~ renders, for scenes I've already built, lit, etc. and 90% of it is in Chapters 2/3, with 20ish added to Ashe's date scene. As soon as that's done, I'll be re-releasing Chapters 1-10 as Season 1, and Chapter 11 will kick off Season 2.

Now, let's play Jump to Conclusions!

  • I'm Milking My Supporters: True! You got me, nobody tell those naughty little cows. ;)
  • I'm Trying to Avoid the Abandoned Tag on This Fine Pirate Site: True! Granted, Chapter 10 only came out in November, and the abandoned tag doesn't kick in for at least a year.. And the Blue Valentine mini-sode came out in February.. And the Chapter 11 teaser in March.. And now a full chapter in April.. Shit, I'm putting a lot of work into not working.
  • Steam Demanded I Change the Content: Truueeeee! As you can see, Friends in Need is already on Steam, but they demanded I strip out any naughty content. So, I'm reworking it as a farming sim. The new title will be Friends with Seed. It still sounds dirty, but it isn't.
  • I'm Abandoning the Game: Trrruuuuueee-- *
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Sorry, but I still don't understand what the changes were and why they were made. From the explanation I only understood that they were made nothing more, and there is no direction. Well, it became darker, lighter, maybe the dialogues are more logical? Well, what is the reason for creating a remake, not for the sake of adding several renders?
 
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korochan48 said:
Did the story change in remake or only renders? No need replay it right? I dont really care about renders if decent enough good enough for me.
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The story has changed a bit (or at least that's what I've heard, because I haven't played it yet) and from what I know the old saves won't work
 
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NeonGhosts said:
Because I love repeating myself: Chapter 1 was remade in its entirety -- I'd get into the reasons why, but let's just say it's because I wanted to personally hurt people's feelings that were looking forward to Chapter 11, and went through a lot of effort to do so.

The following chapters (2-10) needed to have some code and story beats updated, but I've tried to leave as much untouched as possible. While I'm going through the chapters line by line, I'm adding some renders here and there, and tweaking some dialogue. But we're talking about 100~ renders, for scenes I've already built, lit, etc. and 90% of it is in Chapters 2/3, with 20ish added to Ashe's date scene. As soon as that's done, I'll be re-releasing Chapters 1-10 as Season 1, and Chapter 11 will kick off Season 2.

Now, let's play Jump to Conclusions!

  • I'm Milking My Supporters: True! You got me, nobody tell those naughty little cows. ;)
  • I'm Trying to Avoid the Abandoned Tag on This Fine Pirate Site: True! Granted, Chapter 10 only came out in November, and the abandoned tag doesn't kick in for at least a year.. And the Blue Valentine mini-sode came out in February.. And the Chapter 11 teaser in March.. And now a full chapter in April.. Shit, I'm putting a lot of work into not working.
  • Steam Demanded I Change the Content: Truueeeee! As you can see, Friends in Need is already on Steam, but they demanded I strip out any naughty content. So, I'm reworking it as a farming sim. The new title will be Friends with Seed. It still sounds dirty, but it isn't.
  • I'm Abandoning the Game: Trrruuuuueee-- *
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While your sarcasm is appreciated, I sense the frustration in your post and that is exactly what I was referring in my post.

Reworks/Reboots makes fans of the game nervous and impatient and start generating a general negativity on the game thread. It can affect developers such as yourself negatively and in a lot of cases is the first step to games becoming abandoned.

I truly appreciate you for still posting on F95. I have seen a lot of developers leave their game thread, due to assholes posters. However, despite your best intentions, it is not unreasonable for posters to become weary of a remake, give the history of a lot of remakes/reboots on f95. Some just have a very nasty way of expressing their frustrations.

In any case, I love your game, since a long time already. The fact that you still post on F95 is really heartwarming. So godspeed and the best of luck with your game!
 
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FatYoda

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ImperialD said:
ok NeonGhosts ... this remake did turn out pretty good .... why the change in Nikki .... i mean the old one was sexier i think ... not that i hate this one ....
anyway you did a good job in this remake kudo's .. i'll stick around for further updates :love:
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completely disagree, she's prettier now. She'll look better with some of her tattoos i think, but her face is a little softer. it's a nice change.
 
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Sorry, but I still don't understand what the changes were and why they were made.
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The changes were aimed to adjust the relationship between the protagonist and his best friend Nicki, in part to address complaints of people who were hating on her and in part because the dev wanted to give the prologue of the game more details.
 
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Sorry, but I still don't understand what the changes were and why they were made. From the explanation I only understood that they were made nothing more, and there is no direction. Well, it became darker, lighter, maybe the dialogues are more logical? Well, what is the reason for creating a remake, not for the sake of adding several renders?
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if i remember correctly the ch1 is not made by current dev, this current dev want to rewrite and made the change so the story connected and made more sense for new story.
 
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ffive said:
The changes were aimed to adjust the relationship between the protagonist and his best friend Nicki, in part to address complaints of people who were hating on her and in part because the dev wanted to give the prologue of the game more details.
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Oh, thanks for the answer. I see... well, I guess it was necessary since it was done...
 
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