VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

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[Joshy92]

Ok everyone I have donned my armour

Time to become a knight in shining armour
These lovely ladies & Mason need protection & love
And they will get it no matter what.
And if Jamie or any dude tries to hurt them
well, they will unleash the raging beast I have hidden away

I will be paying very close attention to Brent especially.
You mess with my queen, you feel my wrath.

 

[Ottoeight]

As I understand they are ways of calling it so people don't get confused. They are not two games.
That is, if Friends Indeed is in beta, it means that all the vanilla content of this update is included. On the other hand, if Friends in Need is in alpha, it means that content is missing from the Taboo Patch. It is understood? It's the same game, really.

My mind is confused now.

 

[NeonGhosts]

Hey hey, I posted the Alpha/Beta builds over on my respective pages. Release schedule for the final version is as follows.

• $ 15 - 8/16
• $ 5 - 8/19
• $ 2 - 8/23
• Public - 8/26

My mind is confused now.

Friends Indeed has all the taboo content removed from the script itself, as well as the image folders. It's funded through Patreon.

Friends in Need is the classic version, which is still censored, but can be uncensored through use of a patch. It's funded through SubStar.

That's it!

 

[liazz577]

goddaym the model of britt

 

[robrize2169]

mc needs to hire a trainer to learn some fighting skills since he is building a harem of hot ladies who seem to all have shitty exes or stalkers..or hire Ashe's dad as a bodyguard..provided you haven't pissed him off...

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Hiring bodyguards would go against his habit of trying to not attract much attention to himself.
But other than Nikki's stalker ex who else could be a danger? Doubt that we will see the thief who stole Mason's things and that young asshole (forgot his name) who was a racist/rapist and blackmailer was already dealth with.

 

[robrize2169]

yeah Jamie, the racist, rapist pos could be further dealt with by having mc fuck with his university applications so he ends up having to go to a shitty college. after all, he did sucker punch mc and that should have repercussions..

 

[cloudfw]

The latter, mostly. I hinted at this when they meet in the park, and MC can either be sweet to her, or degrade her in the open. Kinda trying to show that MC might, in knowing that Ashe is kinky, treat her like less than/a slut, while still pursuing a relationship with her. Basically forming a toxic relationship where she wants one thing, and he's more obsessed with pushing her further and further, and out of her comfort zone.

Though Ashe does expose some more kinks in this one.

I just wanted to thank you for the work you are putting into this.
Not only are you doing a "good" and a "dark" path, but even being on a "good" path there are still possibilities to be quite manipulative while not being a brute. This is something so rarely done, and I very much appreciate it, since if I am playing evil I always prefer the Palpatine way and such a thing is done so rarely.

 

[allanl9020142]

Path A - you make a crucial choice and it jumps to Path B. Path B can have similarities, but how the characters act around you can be very different. In this game, however, each character has 3 to 5 different paths. The plot unfolds roughly the same, but the interactions are different.

Hmm, see that's what I'm not getting. I get having at least 3 paths for each character: Evil, Asshole, Nice. I just don't know how to categorize the other ones or whether they'd be all that different from the main 3 paths.

 

[Bigboi42]

Oh hell yeah i gotta toss you a 5er for sure on the 19th, i been waiting patiently for this shit

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Your classifications are too simplistic. For instance if you look at the walkthrough, there are 5 classifications for Nikki:

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These are all considered separate routes. Some of the other characters only have 3 or 4 at this point. So if you want to think of routes as "good" or "evil", more than one of the above can fit into those categories.

 

[allanl9020142]

Your classifications are too simplistic. For instance if you look at the walkthrough, there are 5 classifications for Nikki:

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These are all considered separate routes. Some of the other characters only have 3 or 4 at this point. So if you want to think of routes as "good" or "evil", more than one of the above can fit into those categories.

Aaaah. I get it now. I was too hung up on the archetypes. That makes this game even more interesting now, it's more about the relationship to each character and not so much which "Guy" you're playing as. You're usually kind of stuck in whatever "archetype" you choose to play as in these kinds of VNs. Seems like choices actually matter vs just being sorted into a category then running on a railroad with the illusion of choices.

 

[Joshy92]

I'm glad Drew and the rest of you are starting to understand I'm a romantic dude

I don't just want to make love to these beautiful ladies bodies
I want to make love to their souls too

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

mc needs to hire a trainer to learn some fighting skills since he is building a harem of hot ladies who seem to all have shitty exes or stalkers..or hire Ashe's dad as a bodyguard..provided you haven't pissed him off...

Or, he could just buy guns and conceal carry all the time. I don't know about his city's policy on guns, but the rich usually can afford some leeways.

 

[Danv]

just wondering - is Friends Indeed even viable at all? by the sound of it it's more serious rework vs just censored version + patch and require additional time investment, and i can't imagine a lot of people would be getting it if normal FiN is available on SS anyway, just to get it on patreon? not like it's beloved platform these days
also - wouldn't censored FiN already comply with patreon policy?

 

[armond]

Or, he could just buy guns and conceal carry all the time. I don't know about his city's policy on guns, but the rich usually can afford some leeways.

The obviously correct answer, the question then becomes what would guy carry. A glock is to simple but I don't get the feeling he's a gun nut either, so he's not going to have a Beretta 93r either. Something unique but not too specialized.... maybe a usp because he saw misato use one in eva

 

[U330661]

just wondering - is Friends Indeed even viable at all? by the sound of it it's more serious rework vs just censored version + patch and require additional time investment, and i can't imagine a lot of people would be getting it if normal FiN is available on SS anyway, just to get it on patreon? not like it's beloved platform these days
also - wouldn't censored FiN already comply with patreon policy?

I think the point is that Patreon doesn’t like censored versions if they have references in their code.

iirc even having an uncensored version on another platform is enough to get banned from Patreon, they just don’t check that much.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

The obviously correct answer, the question then becomes what would guy carry. A glock is to simple but I don't get the feeling he's a gun nut either, so he's not going to have a Beretta 93r either. Something unique but not too specialized.... maybe a usp because he saw misato use one in eva

I don't see Guy as a firearm afficionado, so he'll either buy the ol' reliable Glock or whatever fudd lore he believes in.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Hmm, see that's what I'm not getting. I get having at least 3 paths for each character: Evil, Asshole, Nice. I just don't know how to categorize the other ones or whether they'd be all that different from the main 3 paths.

Aaaah. I get it now. I was too hung up on the archetypes. That makes this game even more interesting now, it's more about the relationship to each character and not so much which "Guy" you're playing as. You're usually kind of stuck in whatever "archetype" you choose to play as in these kinds of VNs. Seems like choices actually matter vs just being sorted into a category then running on a railroad with the illusion of choices.

Sorry for the wall, haha. Anyways, obviously, someone correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, but here we go. So, basically, any evil action Guy does increases his own dark points which influences his inner thoughts and reasoning and things like that. I think it also opens up certain actions, i.e. in Pepper's interrogation scene, I don't think you can do certain (bad) things unless you have enough MC dark points (MC dark points are separate from individual LI dark points). But, that seems to be the extent of it. I guess Neon mostly uses it in order to make Guy's thoughts align with his actions, as it would be weird as hell if he's thinking wholesome thoughts even after he's graped Ashe, Viola, & Pepper...

On top of that, each character has happy points and dark points as well as a relationship status or 'route'. Happy points are pretty self-explanatory, as it reflects how much they like you, but what some people may have missed is that not only can happy points open up options to the MC, it can also influence the likelihood of a character forgiving a.. let's say less-than-nice action. For example, in the changing room with Gabbi, you can try to finger her ass; if she doesn't have enough happy points, she won't like it and it'll come to a stop pretty quickly; on the other hand, if she does have enough, she will end up liking it and even reach orgasm. In that same scene, she gives you the choice of cumming in her mouth or on her tits; you can instead choose to cum on her face and, similar to the other action, if she isn't happy enough, she will be angry and cry; but, if she is happy enough, she will instantly forgive you and seem to have no problem with it "that's ok, I trust you daddy." It's honestly fucking great and is effectively a toxic subroute of romance (and corruption/findom as well? I actually haven't tried that route yet on a playthrough, so I'm not sure how available happy points are on it). My prediction is that successfully cheating with multiple girls will rely heavily on this (i.e., whether they trust you and believe your lies or not, give you benefit of the doubt, etc.)

Dark points (for the LIs) I'm less sure about tbh. Maybe my memory is bad, but I don't recall what actions, if any, were changed or opened up with dark points with any of the girls. It's possible he hasn't utilized them as much yet, I just don't remember. If happy points reflect how much they like you and are willing to forgive mistakes or toxic behavior, the logical flipside of that is dark points reflect how much they hate you and perhaps how likely they are to jump on mistakes or further toxic behavior; or perhaps how much control/domination you have over them and how likely they are to be afraid and allow you to do evil things without complaint? Not sure.

And I guess the relationships/routes are also pretty self-explanatory. In general, you have friend, romance, corruption/findom, and evil/sadistic/domination/grape/whatever else people have called it up to now. Some girls have more routes and I have no idea what they entail; I guess they're branches from the general routes, i.e. Nicki apparently has a toxic romance route according to another comment. So, I guess to finally sorta attempt to answer your question about route switching, I think Neon's plan is to either add another route for situations like that where it makes sense, or to specifically add a variable that gets checked, i.e. whether you switched from corruption/findom to romance, or romance to grape, etc. I'm guessing for route switches that entailed something very meaningful (whether good or bad), it would get reflected in the character's behavior and dialogue, at least for a while. Like, it's hard to believe that the straight romance route should get the exact same reaction and dialogue as someone who switched from the asshole/findom route onto the romance route (assuming that's possible for anyone). But, for other route switches, it might make perfect sense to more-or-less have it the same, i.e. friend to romance vs romance off-the-bat seems like there wouldn't be much of a meaningful difference other than the character referencing it here and there, i.e. friend-to-romance "took a little bit, but I finally saw what made you so great" versus romance-from-the-start "it was love at first sight". Or if the romance route had 1 or 2 extra sex scenes, the friend-onto-romance route would reflect the lack of those events. Stuff like that, probably.

So, as you can see, it's all very complicated and can understandably get quite confusing But, that's honestly what makes it so, so good and gives it an amazing replay value. It's possible Neon will change some of these things in the chp 1 revamp, as he said he's going to streamline stuff and add code references to specific actions (for example, whether you did anal with Nicki, or just oral, etc.). Don't know if he plans for that to replace happy points and (LI) dark points in any significant way?