no huge fan re-make/reboots i love when dev keep the same plot,with only light modification
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hope u aren't putting effort in the wrong place.The part where are saying "I'm going through the chapters line by line, I'm adding some renders here and there" a guarantee of burn out lolBecause I love repeating myself: Chapter 1 was remade in its entirety -- I'd get into the reasons why, but let's just say it's because I wanted to personally hurt people's feelings that were looking forward to Chapter 11, and went through a lot of effort to do so.
The following chapters (2-10) needed to have some code and story beats updated, but I've tried to leave as much untouched as possible. While I'm going through the chapters line by line, I'm adding some renders here and there, and tweaking some dialogue. But we're talking about 100~ renders, for scenes I've already built, lit, etc. and 90% of it is in Chapters 2/3, with 20ish added to Ashe's date scene. As soon as that's done, I'll be re-releasing Chapters 1-10 as Season 1, and Chapter 11 will kick off Season 2.
Now, let's play Jump to Conclusions!
- I'm Milking My Supporters: True! You got me, nobody tell those naughty little cows.
- I'm Trying to Avoid the Abandoned Tag on This Fine Pirate Site: True! Granted, Chapter 10 only came out in November, and the abandoned tag doesn't kick in for at least a year.. And the Blue Valentine mini-sode came out in February.. And the Chapter 11 teaser in March.. And now a full chapter in April.. Shit, I'm putting a lot of work into not working.
- Steam Demanded I Change the Content: Truueeeee! As you can see, Friends in Need is already on Steam, but they demanded I strip out any naughty content. So, I'm reworking it as a farming sim. The new title will be Friends with Seed. It still sounds dirty, but it isn't.
- I'm Abandoning the Game: Trrruuuuueee-- *
Have you played this new version? From the dev comments on the changes while he's been working on it this isn't now how things go. Or at least, the order of events is somewhat different. IIRC you also have option not to have sex altogether, so the "she fucked him and ran off" is down to your own decisions.
FatYoda
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yes i played it, and that's exactly how it went...the chapter ended right after you gave her money and she left your apartment to go back to talk to brent. and yes you had the option not to sleep with her. He could further change her story i gues in chapter 2 and make her not betray the mc, but that'd be a big change....and a VERY welcome one tbh. if she doesn't run off you could marry her...like immediately. She'd make a pretty great cuckqueen. the last bit isn't really serious...i'd like it, but i can't imagine that's where the story would go even if she did come back.
Nicki trying to solve her problems on her own instead of coming to you, hat in hand, for yet another handout after you already gave her a pile of cash, is "betraying the mc" how..? NGL, i seriously struggle to understand this mentality.
some player are too idealist,the game are more less based on some drama and suspense.
The reason people are concerned about a remake is that 'remake' usually means 'sanitising the shit out of it and ruining it'. This has been the trend with... controversial... games for several years by now, with games being remade and going to shit to appease the patreon gods. Shortly before being abandoned most of the time.
Would be helpful to have some details somewhere properly explaining what the remake actually is and what it changes. If only to alleviate concerns
Would be helpful to have some details somewhere properly explaining what the remake actually is and what it changes. If only to alleviate concerns
jish55
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God I hope that's not the case, especially if it means the removal of my favorite love interest.
Deyn21
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Oh, no. I hate remakes of games that are not even finished yet.
It means dev will waste another 2 years just to get to the point where we are now without remake. Ughhh.
I guess MC will not bang blonde girl before 2028.
It means dev will waste another 2 years just to get to the point where we are now without remake. Ughhh.
I guess MC will not bang blonde girl before 2028.
Nope, the "rape" scene in 1st chapter got deleted. MC now fucks his friend only in gentle way.
Uhm, she wouldn't be out of trouble. Brent uses the money Nicki got from you to double down on his "great idea" and only makes their debt larger. So, Nicki is still on the hook owning money to loan sharks, now even more of it. And by going to Guy she would be bringing that trouble and those loan sharks to his doorstep.
And Guy isn't some action movie protagonist who'd somehow resolve that with Dramatic Action Sequence.
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So, originally the dev from The Regional Manager (great game, great guy, go play it!) did the art for Chapter 1. I used his model for Nicki, but there were certain things about her that I didn't love, and I wound up changing a bit before I took over rendering Chapter 2. I gave her more distinct eyes, tweaked her face a bit, blah blah blah. So, the Nicki present in Chapter 1, matches the Nicki that exists from Chapter 2 and on. I changed her hair from the original, just because that original asset was dForce hair, which is a giant pain in the ass to work with.ok NeonGhosts ... this remake did turn out pretty good .... why the change in Nikki .... i mean the old one was sexier i think ... not that i hate this one ....
anyway you did a good job in this remake kudo's .. i'll stick around for further updates
I just wasn't happy with it, honestly. Due to how it was made (with me writing, and someone else rendering) it just never felt as cohesive as I wanted it to. And I couldn't have as many renders as I wanted, because another dev was doing the art, while working on his own game, so he only had limited time to fuck with it. The new version lingers more on Nicki and Guy's friendship, goes into his original crypto investment a bit more, introduces some characters earlier, and adds more variety to the sex scenes. I wouldn't say it's just a new coat of paint on an old story. It's more like a retelling of the original, with more elements added.
Difficult to say, but my best guess would be mid-late July? I'm still early into Chapter 11, and it should be a pretty large chapter.
Eh, I'm not really frustrated. I'm pretty accustomed to this pattern by now. I do [X], some folks says it's the death of the game, and then we rehash the exercise in four months. Been that way since the first release. I just wish people would realize that, if their intent is to whip me into submission like a dog, it's just.. Not going to work? That seems to be the impetus, right?
"How fucking dare you do this thing I don't like! Bad! Bad developer!"
Like.. Maybe that works for some people? But, I'm always working as quickly as I can, and yelling at me about X, Y, or Z isn't going to make me go faster.
Still, I appreciate the kind words!
FatYoda
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i forgot about that...i'm glad you pointed that out. you are right then. it's not a betrayal. but i don't know anyone who'd rather have their friends disappear out of their lives than help them when they can. But i understand why she didn't go back at least.
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The currently available remake is for "Friends Indeed" version of the game which always lacked the dark paths.
You'll have to wait for the update to the regular version to get your rape on.
jish55
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I'm just sad we have to wait even longer for the full implementation of the Gabby relationship, especially since mc ended things with her back in 2023.So, originally the dev from The Regional Manager (great game, great guy, go play it!) did the art for Chapter 1. I used his model for Nicki, but there were certain things about her that I didn't love, and I wound up changing a bit before I took over rendering Chapter 2. I gave her more distinct eyes, tweaked her face a bit, blah blah blah. So, the Nicki present in Chapter 1, matches the Nicki that exists from Chapter 2 and on. I changed her hair from the original, just because that original asset was dForce hair, which is a giant pain in the ass to work with.
I just wasn't happy with it, honestly. Due to how it was made (with me writing, and someone else rendering) it just never felt as cohesive as I wanted it to. And I couldn't have as many renders as I wanted, because another dev was doing the art, while working on his own game, so he only had limited time to fuck with it. The new version lingers more on Nicki and Guy's friendship, goes into his original crypto investment a bit more, introduces some characters earlier, and adds more variety to the sex scenes. I wouldn't say it's just a new coat of paint on an old story. It's more like a retelling of the original, with more elements added.
Difficult to say, but my best guess would be mid-late July? I'm still early into Chapter 11, and it should be a pretty large chapter.
Eh, I'm not really frustrated. I'm pretty accustomed to this pattern by now. I do [X], some folks says it's the death of the game, and then we rehash the exercise in four months. Been that way since the first release. I just wish people would realize that, if their intent is to whip me into submission like a dog, it's just.. Not going to work? That seems to be the impetus, right?
"How fucking dare you do this thing I don't like! Bad! Bad developer!"
Like.. Maybe that works for some people? But, I'm always working as quickly as I can, and yelling at me about X, Y, or Z isn't going to make me go faster.
Still, I appreciate the kind words!
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, i'd much rather Nicki did come to Guy, even if it meant more trouble for him. I mean, she is a friend, and you want to be able to help your friends. It's just i can understand at the same time why she didn't -- because she wants to "support" Guy too, and in her mind this means not getting him involved further. So it's regretful but i can't exactly dislike her for it.