VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

NeonGhosts this is a seriously good game, there are 2 things however I would like to see.



1) Girl to Girl interactions, I would like for there to be bridging scenes and dialogues between 2 girls, for example based on jealousy (which I feel is something there is so little of in adult games, the girls just seem to accept the guy has multiple women) and girls being curious about your relationship with the other girl, for example it could lead to one girl with whom you have chosen a good path finding out you did something bad to another girl, it could make for a good dialogue.


2) Any pregnancy planned? That would be pretty cool especially towards making choices meaningful.

All in all this is probably one of the few games I have found that give so much freedom to the player.



3) Is Cassie a love Interest? As I am most looking forward to her scenes. Since she is our canon sister I would love to see some real scenes with her and some meaningful choices around family theme. And furthermore learn more about character's past. And how she views us now that we are rich and more successful etc.

1) Not the author, but the LIs haven't had an opportunity to interact much within the story, so it's not out of the realm of possibility. I agree that it would be cool in future content.

3) And yeah, Cassie's a LI

The dark path has to change by force. And it will probably disappear.

What makes you say that? He's just softening the scene in chp 1 for character progression reasons, he's not changing the entire path or anything.

 

[Pixillin']

Neon has been talking about this change for two years. He’s been talking about people misreading or misunderstanding Nicky for almost as long. I think there are some people who are just butthurt that their personal brain cannon has been thrown off and no amount of logic or argument is going to make them feel any better. I’ve also noticed that Neon has stopped posting here, which is sad.

 

[Joshy92]

I actually hate Brent after this chapter one remake. Before I was indifferent, but seeing how he treated Nicki really makes me want to kick his arse.

 

[Reafwalk]

Something I find highly interesting is how some folks here are able to hold onto two diametrically opposed realities at the same time.

Nicki didn't change at all, there was no change to Nicki, she's always been exactly how she is!

I love the new Nicki!

 

[Pixillin']

Something I find highly interesting is how some folks here are able to hold onto two diametrically opposed realities at the same time.

Nicki didn't change at all, there was no change to Nicki, she's always been exactly how she is!

I love the new Nicki!

Nicky didn't change at all. I've always loved Nicky - even more with the additional backstory though.

 

[Pixillin']

I actually hate Brent after this chapter one remake. Before I was indifferent, but seeing how he treated Nicki really makes me want to kick his arse.

TBH I've always wanted to kick Brents ass. Now we have even more reason to but Neon still doesn't give us the option.

 

[NeegNog]

Something I find highly interesting is how some folks here are able to hold onto two diametrically opposed realities at the same time.

Nicki didn't change at all, there was no change to Nicki, she's always been exactly how she is!

I love the new Nicki!

love her too ,she is now the number 1 girl for GUY , there isnt any girl thats close to her since she was there from the start ... but on the other side , she still leaves (and leaves guy hanging after he felt like he got her after all this time!) , and she only comes back after not finding any alternative to her troubles ? , wich is very BAD , but she is still one of the best...

 

[Pixillin']

love her too ,she is now the number 1 girl for GUY , there isnt any girl thats close to her since she was there from the start ... but on the other side , she still leaves (and leaves guy hanging after he felt like he got her after all this time!) , and she only comes back after not finding any alternative to her troubles ? , wich is very BAD , but she is still one of the best...

She isn't looking for an alternative to Guy really, she just doesn't want to come back and tell him that Brent burned through the $20k in a day and she's still $20k in debt. It's because of pride and embarrassment, not because she doesn't want to see Guy. And I agree, she's #1. I only have one save and it's Nicky solo path, I'm just really nice to everyone else - in exchange for nothing.

 

[DefaultNK]

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Well, I thought it was funny.

 

[NeegNog]

She isn't looking for an alternative go Guy really, she just doesn't want to come back and tell him that Brent burned through the $20k in a day and she's still $20k in debt. It's because of pride and embarrassment, not because she doesn't want to see Guy. And I agree, she's #1. I only have one save and it's Nicky solo path, I'm just really nice to everyone else - in exchange for nothing.

ngl im molesting anything that moves , but if i could , i would 100% make her my little evil assistant

 

[DoctorPervic]

in my opinion I love the new Nicki, way better then the old one. Way sexier.

 

[ffive]

in my opinion I love the new Nicki, way better then the old one. Way sexier.

Fun fact: her model is supposedly the same with what's used in 90% of the previous iteration of the game. It was just old CH.1 where she was different.

 

[Ragnar]

in my opinion I love the new Nicki, way better then the old one. Way sexier.

Eh, the remake one is just for Ch1 later still she will come back tatooed.
I don't mind tatoos but some people hate it.

 

[Pixillin']

Eh, the remake one is just for Ch1 later still she will come back tatooed.
I don't mind tatoos but some people hate it.

Depends on the tat and the person. The only thing I don't like about Nicky's tatoos is that she doesn't like them. I wouldn't *make* her get rid of them, but I kinda hope she decides to if only because no one should have to wear a reminder of a dark part of their lives, on their skin, every day, forever.

 

[Ragnar]

Depends on the tat and the person. The only thing I don't like about Nicky's tatoos is that she doesn't like them. I wouldn't *make* her get rid of them, but I kinda hope she decides to if only because no one should have to wear a reminder of a dark part of their lives, on their skin, every day, forever.

Removing big ass tatoos is not easy and the skin is damaged big time. But this is a game so magic tech can be a thing.
I hope we can give some tatoos and piercings to some of the girls in the dark route.

 

[NeegNog]

Removing big ass tatoos is not easy and the skin is damaged big time. But this is a game so magic tech can be a thing.
I hope we can give some tatoos and piercings to some of the girls in the dark route.

thats alot of effort to costumize characters , it will double or triple the dev time for such small details , not worth it

 

[penzor]

Ya know... I saw someone mention how Nicki didn't even try to offer to pay the MC back and how much they hated her for it. Maybe that could be an optional good path: "I'll give you the 20k Nicki, but here's the catch, you will pay back the money by working for ME instead of wasting your life in that convivence store with your prick of a bf. I have an idea about starting this charity and need a sex-er-secretary.... and you already look so cute in a skirt an stockings..."

last option is more interesting tho, basically "Gas, grass or ass - nobody rides for free"

 

[Boopadooparoop]

Well, I don't know. Will the story really remain unchanged after the remake? I think it's difficult. The dark path has to change by force. And it will probably disappear. Perhaps some financial dominance will remain, but it will probably be much more watered down than in the original. And in the nice path... Many more things can be kept here. But it will also have to be tweaked a bit.
Honestly, I wouldn't assume the story won't change.

You could be right, I looked back at what Neon has said and there IS a plan to update bits and pieces through chapters 2-10. If you use search you can see what was said directly. It seems to be very minimal though, mostly focused on the Ashe date in chapter two. I personally wouldn't go as far as to believe the change for chapter one requires tossing the baby with the bathwater, but stranger things have happened. I was just pointing out what's there currently. Only the writer really knows the path a story will take until its written, ultimately have to entrust they have a satisfying vision.

 

[soldano]

The author made no indication he's planning to change any of it, despite mentioning all other changes he's doing/planning, so i don't see any reason to presume that. Like, why exactly the dark path has to change? Dark Guy is established as a misogynist creep who will rape his closest friend and who gets off on lording his newly acquired advantage/invulnerability... just like Kobalt had "promised him" in the very opening.

We'll see. But there are several things that make me think so:
- In the remake, it's gone. It's not that the dark path has been toned down or reworked. It's simply gone. The most "dark path" thing that can happen in the remake is that you play that striptease game with Nicki. You don't even force her to do it. It's not blackmail either. At most, we could talk about manipulation there.
- In the latest updates, the "Dark path" has been losing strength and time in the game. It's becoming less important to the plot, and less interesting to play. I'm referring to the "hard Dark path," the one with rape. But the blackmail and financial domination path has also lost strength and importance, although not as much.
- It's been rumored that there are plans to bring the game to STEAM. If that's true, obviously the "Dark path" will have to be softened a lot. And rape will disappear.

And personally, I don't think it's a bad thing that the brutal rape of Nicki in Chapter 1 is gone. In fact, rape bores me. I prefer the blackmail and financial domination in Dark Path (something that's also gone), since it's much more fun than just being a psychopath. The problem I have with the remake is that everything is bland and flabby. It's like playing the early game without the Taboo patch, so to speak. And if we add to that the fact that my favorite character in the game, which was Nicki, is now an idealized woman, flawless, without rough edges, etc. Well, I'm not exactly optimistic about the game's future, honestly. But we'll see. For me, this game was the best one on this site. But if the changes follow the remake's line, I'll stop playing it. I found the remake boring to play. If that had been the original Chapter 1, I wouldn't have continued playing the game. I wish the game the best of luck, but I won't be funding it again.

 

[69enthusiast]

What the fuck? I waited so that the dark path and the storyline is completely fleshed out since this game does it so well and they're apparently removing it?????