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NeonGhosts

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Raoddik

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Honestly, I'd really like to redo the code for the first two chapters, but it'd force everyone to restart their games.. Which isn't ideal. But, it may be better than continuing to build on a shaky foundation.
Well, better to do it sooner than later then I guess. Overall it's not that big deal (starting from the start) when game is straightforward VN imho (some with mini games are pain to start again > >), the skip button was made for something after all. :p

Just don't forget big warning that old saves don't work just so half people can miss it anyway and report errors. :p
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Well, better to do it sooner than later then I guess. Overall it's not that big deal (starting from the start) when game is straightforward VN imho (some with mini games are pain to start again > >), the skip button was made for something after all. :p

Just don't forget big warning that old saves don't work just so half people can miss it anyway and report errors. :p
Agree. Now while the game isn't that big would be better.
 

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Honestly, I'd really like to redo the code for the first two chapters, but it'd force everyone to restart their games.. Which isn't ideal. But, it may be better than continuing to build on a shaky foundation.
It's not that long replay. But for smoother transition providing saves for every path I think would settle that issue.
 

Hongfire Survivor

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Finally, just a little note on why I don't allow for huge story divergences, based on preference. For instance, would it have made sense to provide an alternative for MC to the photoshoot with Brittani? Like.. I don't know, MC encounters Mason and takes him to lunch, and learns all about his history. Easy enough! Oh, but Brittani's scene is kind of the main sex content for the update, so now I need to wedge some sex into Mason's scene. Oh well, just an extra 100+ renders. 100 x 7 minutes it takes to render an image, I'm looking at an extra 12 hours of rendering time, not counting what it takes to pose.. And then there's images to correct due to clipping, lighting issues, etc.. Call it 25 hours, and now I've added an extra week or more of development time.
I kinda wish people would try to do their own VN/KN just once to see how complicated it gets if you get too ambitious.

You also forgot to add in when you update your NVIDIA Studio driver and DForce decides not to work, but you don't know it was the update because you haven't rendered in a few days :whistle:

Oh that shirt that you've been using in over 50+ renders? Whoops, it now crashes Daz Studio :KEK:

Keep telling people how it is! There is a limit when you are a one person dev team.
 

decerto113

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I dont understand why there isnt an option here to tell her to get fucked for trying to use you. Its currently
option 1. Be super nice
option 2. Be a creep
option 3. Be a pyscho

There should an option between 1 and 2, Option 1.5. Be disappointed/angry.
 

_Berto_

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I dont understand why there isnt an option here to tell her to get fucked for trying to use you. Its currently
option 1. Be super nice
option 2. Be a creep
option 3. Be a pyscho

There should an option between 1 and 2, Option 1.5. Be disappointed/angry.
You mean this option? 1672296093344.png

Joking aside; I know what you mean. It would be nice to have an option for no relationship. But it's another path/branch to consider for the dev. I also think Nicki is integral as the story develops. I think treating her nicely is the better option if you want nothing with her.
 
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HentaiKami

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People wanting fourth option for first scene with Nicki should remember that at that point MC has been in love&lusted after Nicki for a while. It's not always necessarily easy to turn that kind of offer down in that situation, even if you feel hurt by her coming to you for money.
 

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I kinda wish people would try to do their own VN/KN just once to see how complicated it gets if you get too ambitious.
I dont understand why there isnt an option here to tell her to get fucked for trying to use you. Its currently
option 1. Be super nice
option 2. Be a creep
option 3. Be a pyscho

There should an option between 1 and 2, Option 1.5. Be disappointed/angry.
:LOL::ROFLMAO:
That is actually some fucking comical timing

There is (an excelent) walkhtrough, see the 1st page.
Oh ok, my bad then. Never needed walkthrough for this game, and so I trusted the person I replied to, thought maybe he had at least, ya know, looked.... at the front page towards bottom... where everything always is.. guess not.... :ROFLMAO:

Iirc so far the incest is just roleplay between Ashe and MC, so not yet any real incest, but perhaps opens up option for it later in the game.
Yeah, but there will definitely be incest in later chapters, dev confirmed it. Right now, it's just setting it up. Still, the guy I replied to should know that's what the patch will (eventually) do. And in unpatched game, I'm not even sure if some scenes were removed, like naked Ashe turning into naked sister after bedroom scene? Not sure if that's against patreon rules or what

incest roleplay between Ashe and MC
Orly? Haven't experienced that scene yet... I guess she doesn't want to roleplay with you after you grape her :ROFLMAO: Mmmm, one day I will definitely replay this game on all the routes just to see everything. Will be very satisfying experience I think :)
 
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:LOL::ROFLMAO:
That is actually some fucking comical timing


Oh ok, my bad then. Never needed walkthrough for this game, and so I trusted the person I replied to, thought maybe he had at least, ya know, looked.... at the front page towards bottom... where everything always is.. guess not.... :ROFLMAO:


Yeah, but there will definitely be incest in later chapters, dev confirmed it. Right now, it's just setting it up. Still, the guy I replied to should know that's what the patch will (eventually) do. And in unpatched game, I'm not even sure if some scenes were removed, like naked Ashe turning into naked sister after bedroom scene? Not sure if that's against patreon rules or what


Orly? Haven't experienced that scene yet... I guess she doesn't want to roleplay with you after you grape her :ROFLMAO: Mmmm, one day I will definitely replay this game on all the routes just to see everything. Will be very satisfying experience I think :)
The incest RP is between Brittani (the actor) and the MC, as far as I remember.
 
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RC-1138 Boss

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I dont understand why there isnt an option here to tell her to get fucked for trying to use you. Its currently
option 1. Be super nice
option 2. Be a creep
option 3. Be a pyscho

There should an option between 1 and 2, Option 1.5. Be disappointed/angry.
Because then there would be no game.

The events of the prologue lead to the main theme of the game: Guy using his money to help people in need (in the good guy route) or abuse them (in the bad guy route).
 

NeonGhosts

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Because then there would be no game.

The events of the prologue lead to the main theme of the game: Guy using his money to help people in need (in the good guy route) or abuse them (in the bad guy route).
Yeah, I've always stood by my initial stance that, without the sexual component of his meeting with Nicki, Guy would never feel that strong impetus to form a charity, and set the events of the game in motion. And I felt it would make Nicki's three-month absence less meaningful, in some ways. Having your best friend disappear after you either sleep with her or take advantage of her is one thing, but having her just dip out entirely after you helped her and asked for/gained nothing in return felt a little harder to explain.

But, I am coming around to the idea of making a friends-only path with Nicki, which would dovetail into her friend path that picks up in the beginning of Chapter Four. It'd require some extra writing and renders for a new path in Chapter Three and Four, and some consideration regarding where to allow players to re-integrate into the other possible paths, but I think it's doable. Right now all of Nicki's and MC's interactions assume a base-level of intimacy that makes them comfortable/apathetic to being at least partially naked around each other. So it'd need to be explained away to use existing renders, or I'd need to put them both in clothes. Or give them alternate interactions entirely, which could honestly be the path of least resistance.

So, we'll see. Not promising anything for now, but it might be nice to have a longer friends-to-lovers/bang-assistant track, now that more of the game is in place. When I wrote the first chapter, it wasn't a sure thing that the rest of the story would be told - I didn't have a PC that could run Daz effectively, I didn't know how to use Daz, and my ability to code a serialized story was definitely in question. As things have come together, it makes a little more sense to potentially give players the options of keeping Nicki as purely a friend.

Plus, I kind of like writing the platonic stuff anyways.. The other day I sketched out a loose idea for a scene involving Gabby friendship route, which I think will be really cute, once I get around to it.

I can't wait to see more of Brittani with I
Current plan is to have her reappear in Chapter Five, setting up her next big event in Chapter Six. I'd also like to write in a little bit where MC and reach out to her via the phone to show her how the photos came out. I already put them up on my Patreon, but it'd be cool to put them in-game, too.

I kinda wish people would try to do their own VN/KN just once to see how complicated it gets if you get too ambitious.

You also forgot to add in when you update your NVIDIA Studio driver and DForce decides not to work, but you don't know it was the update because you haven't rendered in a few days :whistle:

Oh that shirt that you've been using in over 50+ renders? Whoops, it now crashes Daz Studio :KEK:

Keep telling people how it is! There is a limit when you are a one person dev team.
Hah! Yeah, I don't remember if I talked about it, but I updated to the new version of Daz mid-way through Chapter Four's rendering (because it suddenly began crashing all the time), and it broke some things that I suddenly had to work around - but it did stop crashing! Still, not ideal and not fun.

Speaking of onerous little game-dev problems, I made a bunch of these cellphone screens for pop-up text conversations throughout the game, only to realize the time displayed at the top of each didn't work for the scenes that required them. Hoping I can get them implemented for the next build, since I think they look better than displaying the text in the chatbox.

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Hongfire Survivor

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Hah! Yeah, I don't remember if I talked about it, but I updated to the new version of Daz mid-way through Chapter Four's rendering (because it suddenly began crashing all the time), and it broke some things that I suddenly had to work around - but it did stop crashing! Still, not ideal and not fun.

Speaking of onerous little game-dev problems, I made a bunch of these cellphone screens for pop-up text conversations throughout the game, only to realize the time displayed at the top of each didn't work for the scenes that required them. Hoping I can get them implemented for the next build, since I think they look better than displaying the text in the chatbox.
Yeaap, I can see now why some folks don't update their Daz Studio.

I love those cellphone screens. Nickidoodle :LUL:
 
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