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Zerorox

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Oh, I see that you too have played University of Problems. :ROFLMAO:
Yeah I have played UoP, but yet there are 80%+ VN's with girls havin' just basic "personalities" :FacePalm:

I don't want to say some devs haven't talked with women in real life but instead have seen a lot of anime and dojinshi... only cause I prefer to praise good works/devs instead of criticizing bad works/devs :HideThePain:
 

NeonGhosts

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From everything the developer already did ingame i really doubt this story will turn into a telenovela type of drama.
At the outset of this project I had two hard-and-fast rules that I swore I'd stick to: no organized crime stuff, and no sci-fi. These are kind of specific, but I feel like anytime I've seen a game I like derailed, it's been due to one of these elements. So, I use them as short-hand to remind myself to keep things relatively grounded.

The most far-fetched aspect (outside of MC's fortune) is Nicki's storyline, I think. But without getting too into specifics, some of that stuff is pulled from experiences I've had with a close friend whose life was derailed by bad luck, and quickly spiraled. It's dramatized and compressed into a tighter timeline to be more of a worst-case scenario, but only just.

Also, I've since added, "No vacations," to my list of plot no-no's. Every time I'm playing a game and the dev is like, "Hey, you like this whole setting and all the characters I've set up? Well, get in the car because we're leaving all that shit to go fuck around somewhere else for a few chapters," I kind of die inside.

Sorry to sound like the killjoy, but I say stick to your guns and leave Ashe's mom on the sidelines. The bloating is only going to stop when you're willing to draw a line somewhere. Leave the mom for an easter egg (or the next game).
The only reason I'm tempted to include it, is because I see it as being a one-off event that can really slot into any chapter, and only in one of Ashe's paths. So, it'll be more of a treat for people who want to friend-zone Ashe, and won't need to affect much of the broader story. Still, I get where you're coming from. If it happens, it won't be for a bit. Brittani, Gabby, and Viola are up next for content, so any Ashe stuff is probably a couple chapters away.

Tbh why I like this game:
It's a game "Oh, I met that type of girl" or "I dated girl with similar situation, ended bad"
Not a game "Ah, that's 2 slut types, shy type, milf with bad husband type, damsel in distress type..."
P. S. Yeah, we can categorize them too but they're just more then that :)
I'm glad the girls come across as fairly multi-dimensional. I usually use someone from my life as a starting point for each character, add in a dash of fiction, and find some social issue that I'd like to address through them.

It would be the equivalent to FIN spending its final act as a police procedural with the MC on trial
Devil in Cellblock D.png

*gulp*
 

Echoesinthedarkness

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idk, I can see the ending where essentially mc gets trialed and every girl will either witness for or against him depending on what kind of relations they were in.
that probably doesnt sound that inventive on paper, but what matters is ingame presentation
 

tuskedkibbles

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The only reason I'm tempted to include it, is because I see it as being a one-off event that can really slot into any chapter, and only in one of Ashe's paths. So, it'll be more of a treat for people who want to friend-zone Ashe, and won't need to affect much of the broader story.
What about MCs who aren't uhh... *ahem* the "nicest" to Ashe? Say she doesn't like us very much because of this one night where absolutely nothing happened. You think her mom would be game still? Asking for a friend in need.

I'd throw him in jail for those sandals too.
 

Zerorox

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Not the worst sandals, at least he's wearin' it without socks :ROFLMAO:
P. S. let's friendzone 'em all and see if the game is still playable like "the real man need no pussies, he has strong arm" :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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karrek

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At the outset of this project I had two hard-and-fast rules that I swore I'd stick to: no organized crime stuff, and no sci-fi. These are kind of specific, but I feel like anytime I've seen a game I like derailed, it's been due to one of these elements. So, I use them as short-hand to remind myself to keep things relatively grounded.
Oh praise Satan, this is music to my ears. I was just minutes ago bemoaning how so many of the games with the hottest girls have too many guns and shit getting in the way of the actual good stuff. Blackheart is the only one who I think manages to do it well.

idk, I can see the ending where essentially mc gets trialed and every girl will either witness for or against him depending on what kind of relations they were in.
that probably doesnt sound that inventive on paper, but what matters is ingame presentation
If anything that seems like something that could be kind of a quick montage for a "bad ending" scenario. Just a few shots of girls testifying and the MC in jail, then some message about how you done fucked up, but not really a plot event in the game proper.

Finally, I have to get this off my chest: every time I think of this game I get that Placebo song stuck in my head.
A friend in need's a friend indeed
but a friend with weed is better
a friend with breasts and all the rest
a friend who's dressed in leather
 

NewTricks

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idk, I can see the ending where essentially mc gets trialed and every girl will either witness for or against him depending on what kind of relations they were in.
that probably doesnt sound that inventive on paper, but what matters is ingame presentation
Like the ending of Seinfeld?
 

Mr. Muscles

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Great game. It's really, really good.

I was about to dismiss it for some reason once I started playing it, but I got hooked on it rapidly after this ridiculous thought of mine. I'm actually surprised that there's some actual depth to the characters and events throughout the chapters despite the rape tag.

In my experience, until now at least, the games with these tags always turn out to be a mindless experience, and that's just not my cup of tea.

So, I'm happy that it's not the case here, even if I'm not assaulting anyone when give the choice. The 'normal ' content is great.
Good stuff (y)

EDIT: By the way, I really don't understand the visceral Nicki hate, I was expecting something horrendous out of her when I stumbled into this thread and saw the extra options. She's a good character, but hey, that's just me.

Either way, great work. Will support dis game on P.
 
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PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Great game. It's really, really good.

I was about to dismiss it for some reason once I started playing it, but I got hooked on it rapidly after this ridiculous thought of mine. I'm actually surprised that there's some actual depth to the characters and events throughout the chapters despite the rape tag.

In my experience, until now at least, the games with these tags always turn out to be a mindless experience, and that's just not my cup of tea.

So, I'm happy that it's not the case here, even if I'm not assaulting anyone when give the choice. The 'normal ' content is great.
Good stuff (y)

EDIT: By the way, I really don't understand the visceral Nicki hate, I was expecting something horrendous out of her when I stumbled into this thread and saw the extra options. She's a good character, but hey, that's just me.

Either way, great work. Will support dis game on P.
Yeah, same here man. I know it's fucked up to a lot of people and no one asked lol, but I found this game specifically searching 'rape' tags. They're not super common as you can imagine :ROFLMAO: And most of them are exactly as you say... just mindless, shallow bs... so I was kinda expecting the same with this one. But, of course, as I found out, this one was a gem :) Very erotic patch content indeed.

The characters have so much depth, though, that I realized why I avoid "romance" in most games... the LIs and the writing are just not good enough to keep my attention much less my erection.. that's sorta-kinda why I even started searching 'rape' tags here to begin with, it's the typical porno-fetish-escalator-to-hell where you get bored with stuff and need something different that will 'shock' you or w/e. Not to dicksuck Neon too much :p, but this game (along with LomL & BoB) kinda rekindled my interest in wholesome romance content.

So, now I get to enjoy the game as a super villain or a super hero and appreciate each route in their own unique ways. Gotta admit, though, as I get more attached to the characters, I do get a tinge of guilt when I'm evil.. but then I keep going anyways 'cause it's just a game :cool:
 

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EDIT: By the way, I really don't understand the visceral Nicki hate, I was expecting something horrendous out of her when I stumbled into this thread and saw the extra options. She's a good character, but hey, that's just me.
The hate isn't because she's a bad character, it's because she made choices that make it look like she's using the MC for his money and even when coming back begging for help she friend zoned him.

She IS a great character but her choices have made her polarising. She's probably one of the better written characters i've seen in an adult game but she's still Marmite, you'll either love her or hate her.
 

karrek

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I would even say the fact that she's so polarizing as a person proves that she's a very good character, since she's complex enough that people can reasonably have different interpretations of/reactions to her actions and motivations.

Personally, I feel my relationship with her is highly transactional, because she made it that way, but I don't hate her, or even dislike her. I just don't feel any special care for her either.

You might say I'm a well-wisher in that I don't wish her any particular harm. ;)
 

Joshy92

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I can't believe some people hate Nicki if i had my way the mc would marry her and be exclusive to her
that's right no other girl for me
 
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Mr. Muscles

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I would even say the fact that she's so polarizing as a person proves that she's a very good character, since she's complex enough that people can reasonably have different interpretations of/reactions to her actions and motivations.

Personally, I feel my relationship with her is highly transactional, because she made it that way, but I don't hate her, or even dislike her. I just don't feel any special care for her either.

You might say I'm a well-wisher in that I don't wish her any particular harm. ;)
I just thought that the "remove Nick from the game" patch was a bit tad overdramatic :KEK:

But yeah, she and Ashe are my front-runners for any long-term commitment “ending”, if the game allows it.
 
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