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MrJay

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Apr 21, 2017
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This is genuinely one of the best games on this site and I love it so much, and I'm not totally sure what the future plans for this game are exactly, BUT let me be perfectly earnest and say that if the future will ONLY hold exclusive paths for different love interests then that will probably be a dealbreaker for me, as much as I hate to say it. Apart from juggling X different savegame paths, one for each girl, being a huge headache and totally ruins the pacing for me every single time I have to load up the game in an older save, and waste time doing the same core story again and again, actually the BIGGEST issue is that I genuinely can't stand having to turn down girls, it just breaks my heart and not in any good way. Even just the scenes with Gabby in the last two updates are killing me and are enough to negatively color my experience of the entire playthrough of those updates, although I can bear it if there's a prospect of it being fixable in the future so that's my hope for Gabby and for right now. It's like this for me: Are you telling me I would have to play a path where I turn down Nicki at some point just to get the full Gabby path? Obviously I can't do that. I simply physically can't do that to Nicki, that's how invested I get in these stories and I'd rather just give up on ever experiencing the rest of this game that I love than have to go through that ever.

And since this seems to somehow be controversial to some people, even though I genuinely can't see why, having all LIs in a single path doesn't have to mean it would make this a harem game. It COULD be a harem game, that's one way to solve it, but it's not the only way to solve it, there are basically infinite different ways to solve that "issue" and there are plenty of games that do that without being harem games.

I saw a few comments tangentially related to this and I just felt like I had to get this off my chest, maybe I'm totally off base here and if that's the case I don't mind looking the fool, I can deal with that.
 

Darkcroxz

Newbie
Oct 14, 2019
53
26
Whilst talking to Carolina and choosing a favour or date, I chose a date and then soon after this error appeared -

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/script.rpy", line 34083, in script
menu:
File "game/script.rpy", line 34103, in <module>
"Suggest Brittani." if brirel == 0 or brirel == 1 and bri_fear == False :
NameError: name 'bri_fear' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpy", line 34083, in script
menu:
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1903, in execute
choice = renpy.exports.menu(choices, self.set, args, kwargs, item_arguments)
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 976, in menu
condition = renpy.python.py_eval(condition)
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1092, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1085, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/script.rpy", line 34103, in <module>
"Suggest Brittani." if brirel == 0 or brirel == 1 and bri_fear == False :
NameError: name 'bri_fear' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809
Friends in Need
Fri Apr 28 13:50:54 2023
```

I can ignore and move through it but wondered the Suggest Brittani option I can see in there? Was it to appear?
be prepared, that error is not the only one
 
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Jorund

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Jun 10, 2018
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I am in the middle of downloading the update but this post brings a question: I don't see the gay tag in the tag cloud, you mention getting a bj from Mason.... isn't mason a boy? Can we avoid any gay content?
The BJ is avoidable and
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Just want to say i start to really love that game. I get it why some loathe Nicki, but i just can't... just hope that doesn't bite me in the ass later.
And as this seems to not becoming a harem game after all makes it just harder to figure out how to go on with all the possibilities. A gallery would be really great, makint it eaiser to have different saves for different routes .. cause right now i have just too many saves already just to see scenes i blocked on my 'canon' playthrough.

Oh and some (stupid) speculation:
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Jimayo

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Jan 1, 2018
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Whilst talking to Carolina and choosing a favour or date, I chose a date and then soon after this error appeared -

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/script.rpy", line 34083, in script
menu:
File "game/script.rpy", line 34103, in <module>
"Suggest Brittani." if brirel == 0 or brirel == 1 and bri_fear == False :
NameError: name 'bri_fear' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/script.rpy", line 34083, in script
menu:
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1903, in execute
choice = renpy.exports.menu(choices, self.set, args, kwargs, item_arguments)
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 976, in menu
condition = renpy.python.py_eval(condition)
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1092, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "J:\Games\FriendsinNeed-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1085, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/script.rpy", line 34103, in <module>
"Suggest Brittani." if brirel == 0 or brirel == 1 and bri_fear == False :
NameError: name 'bri_fear' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809
Friends in Need
Fri Apr 28 13:50:54 2023
```

I can ignore and move through it but wondered the Suggest Brittani option I can see in there? Was it to appear?
Yes, in fact it should be a number of options. We're supposed to have a choice but the error is skipping it.
 
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ename144

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Sep 20, 2018
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wish there'll be a harem path (or partial harem path like Bare Witness) since there're tons of main LIs to choose (if the Character Guide is canon)
Honestly, Bare Witness is a shining example of why I *don't* want a harem path. The instant girls start getting harem content, their solo-path content winds up feeling underwhelming and incomplete. Mora's path in BW was almost embarrassingly spartan without all the orgy scenes to continue her story.

In theory I'm not opposed to partial harems as long as it could be done right and makes sense with the personalities of the girls involved (I could see Ashe being up for it, but not Carolina, for example). But in practice FIN already has so many girls and so many paths available for them there's no way it can ALSO do justice to a bunch of harem options. Better to leave that for a dedicated harem game.
 
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The ArcKnight

Nylon enthusiast, Harem enjoyer.
Donor
May 19, 2018
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Wait, there is no harem path?
I....don't know if I want to continue playing if that is the case.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game but....
You've done almost too good a job getting me to like these characters.
There are faaaaaar too many LI's I'm interested in to be forced to reject all but one.

I get replayability, but I'm not playing a game 12 times just to see all the girls paths I want.
Especially with how many games come out each day that are vying for player's attention/support.
 
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Kond

Member
Jul 8, 2018
391
1,372
First played this game, its good. But Nicki is a no go for me, happy to have an option to at least not have a romantic relationship with her, she got railed by her douche bf, all that shit happened to her and then when she has no other way out she goes back to MC with some self pity to buy a emotional response from him and finally have a way out from her situation, wanting to date him and stuff. I know this is not just with her and that this is due to the nature of the game... but was "fun" to see as this really happens a lot in RL. In some sense i remembered A.O.A where most women had some shit happening to them.
 

Kond

Member
Jul 8, 2018
391
1,372
Wait, there is no harem path?
I....don't know if I want to continue playing if that is the case.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game but....
You've done almost too good a job getting me to like these characters.
There are faaaaaar to many LI's I'm interested in to be forced to reject all but one.

I get replayibility, but I'm not playing a game 12 times just to see all the girls paths I want.
Especially with how many games come out each day that are vying for player's attention/support.
I didnt read previous pages, but are you sure? It seems very strange this game not having a harem path, i totally had a harem vibe playing it.
 

Joshy92

Devoted Member
Mar 25, 2021
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This is genuinely one of the best games on this site and I love it so much, and I'm not totally sure what the future plans for this game are exactly, BUT let me be perfectly earnest and say that if the future will ONLY hold exclusive paths for different love interests then that will probably be a dealbreaker for me, as much as I hate to say it. Apart from juggling X different savegame paths, one for each girl, being a huge headache and totally ruins the pacing for me every single time I have to load up the game in an older save, and waste time doing the same core story again and again, actually the BIGGEST issue is that I genuinely can't stand having to turn down girls, it just breaks my heart and not in any good way. Even just the scenes with Gabby in the last two updates are killing me and are enough to negatively color my experience of the entire playthrough of those updates, although I can bear it if there's a prospect of it being fixable in the future so that's my hope for Gabby and for right now. It's like this for me: Are you telling me I would have to play a path where I turn down Nicki at some point just to get the full Gabby path? Obviously I can't do that. I simply physically can't do that to Nicki, that's how invested I get in these stories and I'd rather just give up on ever experiencing the rest of this game that I love than have to go through that ever.

And since this seems to somehow be controversial to some people, even though I genuinely can't see why, having all LIs in a single path doesn't have to mean it would make this a harem game. It COULD be a harem game, that's one way to solve it, but it's not the only way to solve it, there are basically infinite different ways to solve that "issue" and there are plenty of games that do that without being harem games.

I saw a few comments tangentially related to this and I just felt like I had to get this off my chest, maybe I'm totally off base here and if that's the case I don't mind looking the fool, I can deal with that.
I personally despise harems because it feels as if there is no conflict or drama and everybody just loves the mc Because he is so perfect
Also I don't want to share or be shared with anyone
Harem to me is like NTR is to other people
 

MrJay

Active Member
Apr 21, 2017
552
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Wait, there is no harem path?
I....don't know if I want to continue playing if that is the case.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game but....
You've done almost too good a job getting me to like these characters.
There are faaaaaar to many LI's I'm interested in to be forced to reject all but one.

I get replayibility, but I'm not playing a game 12 times just to see all the girls paths I want.
Especially with how many games come out each day that are vying for player's attention/support.
This is what I mean. I can play games that have a singular LI just fine, they can be great. But if the dev is introducing all these amazing girls to me but telling me I can't have them all at the same time, the only thing I can feel is disappointment. I don't care if I have to cheat on them with each other or however they want to excuse it.

It also seems a little contrived in a game that has some pretty heavy maledom at times and pretty deranged kinks in the taboo patch but apparently convincing the girls to share a "dream guy" is beyond the scope of belief? But again, I'm not yet entirely sure if harem path is totally written off or not.
 

Joshy92

Devoted Member
Mar 25, 2021
11,246
24,796
Also people relax this will most probably have a harem path so no need to keep saying you won't play because there is no harem
I mean jeez harem fans are just as bad as ntr fans always saying how they won't play a game until there is a harem option

P.S. not every game needs a harem because stories with harem are always the same shit (Look at WVM)
 

NeoEros

Active Member
Feb 23, 2022
533
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Honestly, Bare Witness is a shining example of why I *don't* want a harem path. The instant girls start getting harem content, their solo-path content winds up feeling underwhelming and incomplete. Mora's path in BW was almost embarrassingly spartan without all the orgy scenes to continue her story.

In theory I'm not opposed to partial harems as long as it could be done right and makes sense with the personalities of the girls involved (I could see Ashe being up for it, but not Carolina, for example). But in practice FIN already has so many girls and so many paths available for them there's no way it can ALSO do justice to a bunch of harem options. Better to leave that for a dedicated harem game.
I agree with your take on BW there, and that's why I ultimately choose to only play three main paths (MASH and the other two separate LI paths), since I feel like the solo paths of the first four felt unfulfilling in comparison with the harem one.
 
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MrJay

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Apr 21, 2017
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I personally despise harems because it feels as if there is no conflict or drama and everybody just loves the mc Because he is so perfect
Also I don't want to share or be shared with anyone
Harem to me is like NTR is to other people
I will say that harem games absolutely can have conflict and drama (most of them do) and if anything, drama between or over potential LIs has to be the least interesting form of drama possible and I can't understand why anyone would willingly subject themselves to that. But that's just my personal opinion and I've said my piece on this matter already.
 
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