Damn, I came to fap not to feel.. damn. Its hard to be a complete bad guy when you feel for those characters. Good writing as always. I just hope for bigger updates each time. Once you get hooked on the story it ends in each update. Damn. I didn't even fap.. as I was feeling the story more than find it hot or erotic. How to be a bastard philantropist when you can help those girls and enjoy them too.. Really nice game and writing style.
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Got a feeling that will probably be one of the bad routes.
You're basically forcing him to live a lie and pretend to be something he's not. He's already got issues, got a feeling that will push him over the edge.
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neonghost Guy needs a new wardrobe, the white t-shirt hurts. Give him a leather jacket or something.
At least leather gives you +1 against butter knives
At least leather gives you +1 against butter knives
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So do the people that think gender and sex are somehow different things consider the Mason scene sisi or forced feminization? Il say this about the dev between this and the slave thing with the black girl he is taking some chances.
NeonGhosts How about an extra option with Mason to not use the wig if you refer to her as a girl and just reuse the other renders.
NeonGhosts How about an extra option with Mason to not use the wig if you refer to her as a girl and just reuse the other renders.
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Going by the rest of your comments you aren't at the end yet so read on at your own peril. The writing in terms of madisons marriage is kind of on the wall:
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I've looked into the code a bit and have not seen any indication that making her feminine is resulting in increasing our "dark points" or such thing.
The only variables affected by that path are "msgen" which is a boolean variable, meaning it only states wether or not we chose this possible path. The only choice we can make that's gonna affect our "dark points" is by choosing "Roughly molest her", rather than "Ask[ing] her to clean the studio" which can be avoided obviously, although I don't know what kind of relationship the set values for our relationship variables mean.
All in all, I don't see any variables that would suggest that's gonna be part of the evil route, other than at the end which can be avoided even with us referring to her as a woman.
So it might as well become a path where she actually acts as a woman with time outside our influence.
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There was actually a discussion on this in dev's discord. I can't recall it well but iirc, while not a good or "evil" path, its a "bad" path for Mason as its technically going against his personal preference.
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Yeah, misgendering people is not A Cool Move. That shouldn't be a surprise.
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I don't know much about gender issues and I'm not really interested. There are millions of people discussing such issues right now all over the West. Now, I can tell you something about it; you can't force anyone to feel they're of the opposite gender. The dude who started all this gender theory thing did an experiment that failed miserably. If anyone wants to read more look for the Reimer case.
I hope Neonghost stays away as much as possible from the real life counterpart of all this. This is porn, and while you can add drama and whatnot, some real life issues are too much to be discussed in escapism produts imo.
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I doubt NG will go very in depth about such topics but given the more realistic backdrop to the story he is writing, some of it will definitely overlay into FIN.
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Oh i know about it. This in particular stands out
"Forced "sexual rehearsal"[
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]Money continued to supervise and report on the twins' gender development as the "John/Joan case" until the twins were 13 years old.[
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, who published a biography of Reimer in 2001, the sessions with Money included what Money called "childhood sexual rehearsal play":
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Money theorized that reproductive behaviour formed the foundation of gender, and that "play at thrusting movements and copulation" was a key aspect of gender development in all primates. Starting at age six, according to Brian, the twins were forced to act out sexual acts, with David playing the female role—Money made Reimer get down on all fours, and Brian was forced to "come up behind [him] and place his crotch against [his] buttocks". Money also forced Reimer, in another sexual position, to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. On "at least one occasion" Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities.
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"This is the guy that came up with this theory. A real stand up guy and definitely not a pedophile.
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How the hell is any of that relevant to this game?
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I just played the scene with Mason and surprisingly I loved it. I especially liked being able to be mean to him (her while she gives you a blowjob), but then being able to hug him and treat him well. It's a kind of roleplay that I didn't know I liked, but I do. And he seemed very tender to me as he falls asleep in your arms.
A very well written scene.
In Gabby's scene I wanted to be able to do things with her beyond forcing her to bark. Have I done something wrong, or does she reappear later in the chapter?
A very well written scene.
In Gabby's scene I wanted to be able to do things with her beyond forcing her to bark. Have I done something wrong, or does she reappear later in the chapter?
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I mean, treating Mason as girl not giving dark points kinda makes sense, you can treat her affectionate and be caring, even if you choose to treat her as girl, or be a dick and treat her roughly.
I'm curious where the path will lead to, if Mason will change and accept being a girl, if it will lead to some dark path or whatever Neon has planned. If it ends bad to treat her as girl so be it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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We are all adults here, with actual working neurons between the ears, no?
MC never forces Mason one way or the other, he makes some preference
while they kinky play their foreplay together.
There are actual crossdressers in the world and also BDSM guys and girls,
who are absolute hard knuckle assholes outside of the bedroom,
but who love sissy/slave kinky foreplay.
Whenever MAson wants to have some fun, MC can state his likes and his whatevs.
MC going forceful means dark parth, MC acceptin Mason denials and them coming to terms
about how they will go about playing with eachother, that is the ball game.
MC never forces Mason one way or the other, he makes some preference
while they kinky play their foreplay together.
There are actual crossdressers in the world and also BDSM guys and girls,
who are absolute hard knuckle assholes outside of the bedroom,
but who love sissy/slave kinky foreplay.
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Whenever MAson wants to have some fun, MC can state his likes and his whatevs.
MC going forceful means dark parth, MC acceptin Mason denials and them coming to terms
about how they will go about playing with eachother, that is the ball game.
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There's still a possibility that the variable "msgen", which probably stands for "misgendering" ist gonna be used later on in the game for dark points, but up until now this game hasn't had this kind of style, that your choices will lead to consequences later in the game but right in this moment and thus lead to alternate paths (and thus the consequences).
I think Neon has something planned in this case which is actually a nicer path but can also become a darker path depending on future choices.
Unfortunately this topic has resulted into a major political discussion in this thread which I don't wanna participate into. I was just asking about future scenarios and now people include gender theories and other stuff. Let's just play the game and everyone enjoys the content he/she chooses.
As someone who has no idea where you were going with the Mason storyline I have to say it ended up being one of the hottest scenes so far. Amazing work setting that up. I can totally understand if you'd rather not but would you be willing to share who some of your OnlyFans inspirations were? This is all new to me and having really enjoyed what you did with Mason I'm kind of interested in finding out more.REGARDING THE BRI_FEAR/BRIFEAR BUG:
Alright, here's what happened, to the best of my memory. I had the original variable labeled as 'bri_fear' at the start of Chapter Four: Part One, but then it was 'brifear' when actually applied to a path in the script. This meant that some people could have 'brifear = True' but there was no 'brifear = False' control variable for people who never did anything to frighten Brittani. Which meant that, when it came up later for the babysitter convo, it resulted in errors either way.
And unfortunately I didn't catch it until someone pointed it out with the newest update in the Beta. So, for the next release I changed them all to 'brifear' so at least someone starting a new game wouldn't get the same error. It should resolve if you load a save from the end of Chapter Three, just prior to the scene where we see Alex installing MC's hot tub while he's gaming with Nicki. As that's the first place the new variable is located. If not, you can start a new game -- but it's not really necessary.
As people who follow the thread know, once the next installment comes out I intend to redo Chapter One entirely, clean up any cascade effects, revamp all the variables, and release it. All the babysitter stuff won't matter until Chapter Five, which will come after the Chapter One reboot that forces everyone to start a new game anyways. So -- don't sweat it, it's not a big deal.
Thanks to everyone that's played, supported, or said a kind word! I love release days.
Alright, quick lightning round because I have a cold and I'm not feeling terribly well:
Oh thanks, I went ahead and fixed those!
Thank you! Simple words of encouragement and support genuinely mean a lot.
Thanks so much for the comprehensive review!
To speak to the continuity errors, you're right, that topless cheerleader photo does need to change. I'll add that to my big whiteboard full of little things to fix. On the goth photo though, Brittani does actually allow you to keep one of those, because she thinks it makes her look 'tough.' Still, I'll look at cleaning that scene-to-scene transition up a bit.
I wouldn't say that.. This update was originally going to end with MC taking Gabby and Madison to get Ryan out of jail. Gabby lovers will likely get a bit of catharsis when that finally happens.
Always a chance.. Bonnie's not a main love interest or anything, but I have a one-off scene in mind for her if you're on one of Ashe's paths.
Sometimes being a good guy means being a little patient. Next update shows there might be some unexpected consequences to always being an asshole.
Interesting conundrum, isn't it?
I generally hope to avoid bad ends for any of the love interests, even on their bad paths. No spoilers or anything, but I'd rather see their stories end with them having survived MC and grown from it, rather than crumble. As for Mason's gender in particular.. I'm still figuring that out, honestly! Mason's based on a combination of two people I know in real life, but I also took some inspiration from a few trans dudes I know (or know of) online. One in particular went from using fem pronouns, to non-binary, to masculine, and back to non-binary.
Thanks so much! That's very kind.
I'm glad people have generally had such positive responses to Mason. Warms my heart!
And yeah, Nicki just keeps being more and more fun to write and render. And Maya + anyone just seems to bring out a fun dimension to their character.
I actually had a plan for one love interest to act as MC's bodyguard (and it wasn't Alex, she of the many muscles), and later scrapped it. Like MC tells Nicki, he's not famous, he's more like a 'regional figure of interest.' But, that could change after he goes on the news to talk about the charity.. >_>
I haven't made any changes to the script, so it's possible whoever packaged it for Android messed something up? As for Cassie's introduction, stay tuned. I know I've been saying that for a hot minute, but..
I imagine her as being a second-generation Mexican-American, likely from California or Texas. To be honest, I stole the "cucuy" thing from a Spanish-speaking girl I knew years ago who'd always say it. I checked the internet to verify it was a thing, but did t really research further.
Ayyyyy, another UFC fan! That's also why MC's photographer buddy's last name is Nogueira.
Thanks so much for the thorough, thoughtful review! I will say.. There are some mean girls incoming. So, stay tuned and maybe even good MC will have the option for a little Chaotic Good retribution.
I also have absolutely no idea where you're going with the photo teases (I assume the photo Maya took of MC and Nicki was another hint. I guess this is one of the long term plot threads but damned if I know what's being foreshadowed. Is it girls with colored hair???) Anyway, excited to see where you take things, please keep up the great work
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Or you can act like a person with some morals and don't accept sexual favors in exchange for your help.
To me is not about pronoums, it's about helping someone or taking advantage of their situation.
This is not exclusive to Mason path by the way.
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