NeonGhosts

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A game with ftm trans LI, how rare indeed. And the way his background delivered ? chef kisses flying around. A high praise for you dev....Will there be any future plan for mtf trans LI ?
Thanks! Much appreciated!

I doubt I’ll include a FtM love interest, honestly. It’s just not really my thing, and as a result I think I’d do it badly.

I’d previously floated a design for a trans girl, and by the responses it was clear I missed the mark of what people want from that particular addition. The vibe I got was that people want the fantasy of an extremely perfect and cute girl who just happens to have a cute dick.

But if I was going to do it, I’d want to be honest about it, and it’d be informed by the experiences of my trans friends. Stuff like failing to pass due to height, having numerous electrolysis appointments to remove stubborn facial hair, dealing with mood swings and acne as a result of taking hormones.. Not all the fun fantasy stuff people want.

Maybe if I ever do an anime-style game. I did enjoy Bible Black, back in the day.
 

Joshy92

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It might sound silly to some
But when I look at Mason I don't think about gender or stuff like that
I just see a beautiful person
Who deserves love & Happiness
And I will make sure he gets it
 

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A game with ftm trans LI, how rare indeed. And the way his background delivered ? chef kisses flying around. A high praise for you dev....Will there be any future plan for mtf trans LI ?
100% agree that was very well done. And a great character !
 
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Thanks! Much appreciated!

I doubt I’ll include a FtM love interest, honestly. It’s just not really my thing, and as a result I think I’d do it badly.

I’d previously floated a design for a trans girl, and by the responses it was clear I missed the mark of what people want from that particular addition. The vibe I got was that people want the fantasy of an extremely perfect and cute girl who just happens to have a cute dick.

But if I was going to do it, I’d want to be honest about it, and it’d be informed by the experiences of my trans friends. Stuff like failing to pass due to height, having numerous electrolysis appointments to remove stubborn facial hair, dealing with mood swings and acne as a result of taking hormones.. Not all the fun fantasy stuff people want.

Maybe if I ever do an anime-style game. I did enjoy Bible Black, back in the day.
Mason is a well rounded character on top of a rarity in this medium. Not in my top but I can appreciate a job well done.
Now while is true that most trans/dickgirls in fiction are portrayed with a beauty canon in mind, that doesn't mean that all the real ones are ugly or whatever. There are beautiful trans women in movies, modeling and so on, but if you as a dev want to portray an unconventional beauty that's fine too.
 
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Mason is a well rounded character on top of a rarity in this medium. Not in my top but I can appreciate a job well done.
Now while is true that most trans/dickgirls in fiction are portrayed with a beauty canon in mind, that doesn't mean that all the real ones are ugly or whatever. There are beautiful trans wome in movies, modeling and so on, but if you as a dev want to portray an unconventional beauty that's fine too.
The irl trans women have still most likely had struggles with passing and their transition though, regardless of how beautiful they are.

In AVNs they're usually just fetish objects for people who want a woman with a dick for whatever reason, they're not interested in them as people and the struggles of their dysmorphia and transition.
 

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The irl trans women have still most likely had struggles with passing and their transition though, regardless of how beautiful they are.

In AVNs they're usually just fetish objects for people who want a woman with a dick for whatever reason, they're not interested in them as people and the struggles of their dysmorphia and transition.
Sure but is an erotic vn the best place to go that deep into trans life issues? I don't know.
 
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Sure but is an erotic vn the best place to go that deep into trans life issues? I don't know.
it is not, not erotic vn, not any game, people don't play them just to get force-fed another "message", of any kind, no matter how noble you intentions may be
 
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TigerWolfe

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Sure but is an erotic vn the best place to go that deep into trans life issues? I don't know.
I think the best VNs do get into heavy life issues personally. And I think that's something Neon specifically likes to do/is good at, so if they're not comfortable writing about that experience, then I'd rather them leave it out than just plug in a fetish bait character for horndog fap purposes.
 

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I downloaded the the NON Vanilla file, it has files in there labeled Patch, yet I am still not getting the patch choices, WTF am I doing wrong here?

Edit: Nevermind, I started a fresh game, and it worked. Odd, but at least it seems to be working now.
 
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When talking to Ashe about the bracelet there is one image where the one she's wearing changes. Is that intentional? Is that supposed to mean something?
 

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When talking to Ashe about the bracelet there is one image where the one she's wearing changes. Is that intentional? Is that supposed to mean something?
Guy is in the matrix, this means the program was just altered and Ashe nearly became an agent. Sex with agent Smith would be efficient but boring:alien:
 
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If the author chooses to, yes. Such a no biggie.
To clarify a bit. I wasn't talking about social issues like what we can see with Mason story. I was talking about day to day issues like taking meds and such. I mean girls have the period every month but how many pieces of media show that?
 
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