VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.10 v0.71] [NeonGhosts]

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

I think that for most characters in FiN, Nicki included - you’re sympathizing for them in some way, but it’s also frustrating that you feel some sense of responsibility for their well-being. Meanwhile you’re trying to have a good fap.

Whore//not whore; rape and treat like shit but cum in guilt//love but is it real or do I just want sexy-time; boy with a vagina//girl acting boyish…. Let’s just say for much of the characters and events, it’s complicated.



Gabbi is the character where I most feel like this is just a fantasy game and doesn’t need to be so serious. Almost everyone else I get the feeling of real consequences for being a little rapey.

I don't get this personally. Gabby's dark route scene feels the least intensely evil to me, which ofc shouldn't undermine that her scene is still extremely fucked up, but I still absolutely get a feeling of impending consequences. Her look of fear and "are you going to rape me?" didn't do anything for you? And her quivering at the bookstore? It's crushing

And yeah, if you're used to more poorly-written or simply lighter games, the "dark route" is either more of a super-kinky route or just not all that impactful on you while you're playing, kinda like how shooting civilians in GTA feels or something. This game, though, imo completely redefines what a dark route is. Add to that the depth of the characters, and I totally get why some people feel horrified at what goes on in that route. I guess I've never had too much of a problem separating games from the real world in that regard, though admittedly even I've cringed at some of the scenes because the characters are just way too sympathetic haha.

BTW, if you feel too guilty playing the dark route, you should try the darker end of the corruption route. You can still be mean, but it isn't as horrible as the dark route.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

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Honestly, the reason I've kinda backed off of doing more of those text stories for the blog, is because I think they just make more sense to do in the actual game. I think Ashe's story is especially important, as the whole reveal vis a vis her troubled history as a one-time model, really needs to be highlighted in-game.

Brent's one-off story was my first stab at this, and since people seemed to like it, I'll definitely be doing more for the girls. I have one in mind for Pepper that I think would be awesome.

That is very good to know.

 

[ename144]

Probably! The major emotional/story beats will remain the same: Brent fucked up and got himself and Nicki in trouble, and the player is presented with the chance to fix the problem, sparking the idea of creating a charitable organization.

The stuff that's changing is mostly about fleshing out the world, in the first chapter. We'll see more of Nicki and MC interacting at work, and get a better idea of their dynamic.

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We'll actually see the sales pitch from gamer edge-lord Kobalt, which convinced MC to sink all his money into his crypto nonsense, Kobalt Koin.

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We'll also meet Carolina, as well as the night-time concierge that Risa replaces. We'll see more of Guy's crappy apartment, to fully appreciate the change that comes with him living in a nice penthouse condo. We'll see more of Brent being Brent.

Basically, in addition to overhauling the events around Nicki, I want to set up some things so that later events feel a bit more like payoff. If we meet Carolina and have no idea she has a kid, it's a little more interesting when we discover Maya, later. If we meet the grumpy old guy that Risa replaces, then it's a little more shocking when we walk in and find a pretty girl behind the desk. If we see Guy's crappy apartment, the later reveal that he's bought and renovated that building has more context/weight.

Just a bunch of stuff like that!

Interesting ideas, but some seem stronger than others. Seeing the original relationship between the MC and Nicki would be a huge help for the early game, so that's a clear winner. Getting more time with 'professional' Carolina before we meet Maya could add some nice shades to her character. [Assuming we have time to explore those shades. Carolina's date is currently penciled in for something like 3rd quarter 2025; I love her to bits, but she's not one of the central pillars of the game. Maybe she doesn't need the extra focus?]

On the other hand, I don't know if we really need to see any more of Brett being Brett: say what you will about the guy, he establishes his persona with remarkable efficiency. Likewise introducing the guy who created Kobalt Koin feels like a waste of time. The MC blundering his way into money is a fine origin as is. We don't need to get further into the weeds unless Kobalt's going to figure into the plot later - and I don't see his inclusion opening up a lot in terms of storytelling opportunities.

I'm also reasonably sure I'll wind up wishing we could swap Risa back for the grump, but I'll allow that might be a me problem.

 

[Kulman]

The update frequency is starting to get to the point where I am completely forgetting this game exists.

 

[Maviarab]

The update frequency is starting to get to the point where I am completely forgetting this game exists.

 

[Dr.Slime]

The update frequency is starting to get to the point where I am completely forgetting this game exists.

I mean the game on the search says 4 months so considering the amount of renders etc.. f95 games usually this is kinda reasonable waiting period

 

[NeonGhosts]

Interesting ideas, but some seem stronger than others. Seeing the original relationship between the MC and Nicki would be a huge help for the early game, so that's a clear winner. Getting more time with 'professional' Carolina before we meet Maya could add some nice shades to her character. [Assuming we have time to explore those shades. Carolina's date is currently penciled in for something like 3rd quarter 2025; I love her to bits, but she's not one of the central pillars of the game. Maybe she doesn't need the extra focus?]

On the other hand, I don't know if we really need to see any more of Brett being Brett: say what you will about the guy, he establishes his persona with remarkable efficiency. Likewise introducing the guy who created Kobalt Koin feels like a waste of time. The MC blundering his way into money is a fine origin as is. We don't need to get further into the weeds unless Kobalt's going to figure into the plot later - and I don't see his inclusion opening up a lot in terms of storytelling opportunities.

I'm also reasonably sure I'll wind up wishing we could swap Risa back for the grump, but I'll allow that might be a me problem.

I don't plan to get too in-the-weeds with Brett or Kobalt. Kobalt's scene is similar to Blizzy's from Chapter 8 -- a guy talking to his screen, while MC watches. I just want people to see why MC made a horrible decision that basically fucked his life and credit score, for the next several years, while also making him critically risk-averse. Brett's scene will mostly play out like it already did in Chapter 1, but his entrance to the scene will be a little different, and Nicki's reaction will be a bit different.

 

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tldr; Currently at 900 renders. Alex's scene is done. Working on finishing Risa's sex scenes, so I can get into Mason's scenes. Once Mason's scenes are finished I'll be setting a formal release schedule.



Probably! The major emotional/story beats will remain the same: Brent fucked up and got himself and Nicki in trouble, and the player is presented with the chance to fix the problem, sparking the idea of creating a charitable organization.

The stuff that's changing is mostly about fleshing out the world, in the first chapter. We'll see more of Nicki and MC interacting at work, and get a better idea of their dynamic.

View attachment 3549193

We'll actually see the sales pitch from gamer edge-lord Kobalt, which convinced MC to sink all his money into his crypto nonsense, Kobalt Koin.

View attachment 3549195

We'll also meet Carolina, as well as the night-time concierge that Risa replaces. We'll see more of Guy's crappy apartment, to fully appreciate the change that comes with him living in a nice penthouse condo. We'll see more of Brent being Brent.

Basically, in addition to overhauling the events around Nicki, I want to set up some things so that later events feel a bit more like payoff. If we meet Carolina and have no idea she has a kid, it's a little more interesting when we discover Maya, later. If we meet the grumpy old guy that Risa replaces, then it's a little more shocking when we walk in and find a pretty girl behind the desk. If we see Guy's crappy apartment, the later reveal that he's bought and renovated that building has more context/weight.

Just a bunch of stuff like that!



Honestly, the reason I've kinda backed off of doing more of those text stories for the blog, is because I think they just make more sense to do in the actual game. I think Ashe's story is especially important, as the whole reveal vis a vis her troubled history as a one-time model, really needs to be highlighted in-game.

Brent's one-off story was my first stab at this, and since people seemed to like it, I'll definitely be doing more for the girls. I have one in mind for Pepper that I think would be awesome.

 

[Kulman]

I mean the game on the search says 4 months so considering the amount of renders etc.. f95 games usually this is kinda reasonable waiting period

I am not saying its unreasonable, just commenting on the effect it has on me.

 

[Ragnar]

I am not saying its unreasonable, just commenting on the effect it has on me.

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[ename144]

I don't plan to get too in-the-weeds with Brett or Kobalt. Kobalt's scene is similar to Blizzy's from Chapter 8 -- a guy talking to his screen, while MC watches. I just want people to see why MC made a horrible decision that basically fucked his life and credit score, for the next several years, while also making him critically risk-averse. Brett's scene will mostly play out like it already did in Chapter 1, but his entrance to the scene will be a little different, and Nicki's reaction will be a bit different.

I don't know if I'd describe the MC as particularly risk averse. I presume that's something you're planning to develop in the rework to explain why he missed his original shot at Nicki. Fair enough.

Still, I do think there's a subtle but meaningful change to the game if we see exactly why the MC bought into the Kobalt hype. When it's just an offscreen background event, we will accept that it was a dumb, drunken decision the MC made that ruined his life before somehow shooting the moon. We're ready to move on to the main story. But once we see the sales pitch with our own eyes, consciously or unconsciously we are going to judge the MC's decision ourselves. Was he a rank idiot? Was he the naive victim of a ruthless Svengali? Was he a ballsy investor who got screwed over by fate before finally making good? We'll all have our own take on it and each of them can be valid, but that judgement will linger.

Ultimately, I don't think that helps the game because it's an irrelevant distraction that will cloud our view of the events that really matter. If we think the MC has a history of making bad decisions, that undermines his assessment of Wren's efficiency when running a charity. If we think he already got burned by a pied piper once, we're going to be hat much more annoyed when he buys Risa's sob story in the present day. That sort of thing.

There's a benefit to keeping the MC's blunder nebulous, at least in my eyes. I think you can keep that ambiguity while still delving into how badly the experience scarred the younger MC, but it becomes harder the more you make Kobalt Koin a real item rather than a generic snake oil. But as always, it's your story and this is just my opinion.

I am not saying its unreasonable, just commenting on the effect it has on me.

That's why it's so handy we have these forums! Debating picayune details gives us something to do while we wait, and stopping by regularly lets us keep up with the important news.

 

[DaynNight090]

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typical greedy capitalist

 

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It's been a while does this compressed still need to add the patch for the good stuff? Or is it already added?

 

[DaynNight090]

ao britanni's mom when?

 

[Spfjolietjake]

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Thank you but That's not the version I was asking about. I know S.o.L.'s compressed has the patch. I'm asking about bob69's April fool's compressed version

 

[Dessolos]

typical greedy capitalist

yeah cause wanting money for his hard earned work is greedy, his early access prices are reasonable he doesnt charges a arm and a leg for early access lol o and if you are patient he does put them out for the public eventually yup that's totally being greedy

 

[Laroucoulade]

hello guys ! what is the difference between the classic version and the vanilla version in the download list please ??

 

[dreddhead]

hello guys ! what is the difference between the classic version and the vanilla version in the download list please ??

Search is your friend:
https://f95zone.to/threads/friends-in-need-ch-8-v0-57b-se-neonghosts.112500/post-11470179

 

[jw1221]

ao britanni's mom when?

Not soon sadly, don’t think there’s supposed to be any Brittani content in the next update. Hopefully at Brittani’s next shoot her mom will be there and you can have her join in. Seems like she will do anything for a little money.

 

[Dessolos]

Not soon sadly, don’t think there’s supposed to be any Brittani content in the next update. Hopefully at Brittani’s next shoot her mom will be there and you can have her join in. Seems like she will do anything for a little money.

Id show her mom some money and then give it to Brittani and tell her get the fuck out o and of course afterwards id take Brittani on a nice date. Her mom is to vile for me to stick my dick in. To rub it in id make sure to buy Brittani a really nice expensive dress so her mom can see it and get jealous when she goes home the next day.