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I've been thinking of changing my support from Patreon to Subscribestar. I've just been really grumpy lately about Patreon moving the goalposts and dictating content and sometimes having to pirate "full versions" of games I support on Patreon. I guess I must ask if there is a difference in how devs are compensated between the platforms or if I am just paying for convenience and providing less support for the dev and more profit for a platform. Do you guys have any thoughts on this? I've been donating on Patreon for something like 10 years now and it might just be brand loyalty or inertia keeping me on it at this point.
probably not the best place to discuss that, but basically patreon is more expensive but is easier and quicker to get paid.
 
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I've been thinking of changing my support from Patreon to Subscribestar. I've just been really grumpy lately about Patreon moving the goalposts and dictating content and sometimes having to pirate "full versions" of games I support on Patreon. I guess I must ask if there is a difference in how devs are compensated between the platforms or if I am just paying for convenience and providing less support for the dev and more profit for a platform. Do you guys have any thoughts on this? I've been donating on Patreon for something like 10 years now and it might just be brand loyalty or inertia keeping me on it at this point.
If you can do it. Devs get a bigger share of the money and if you aren't paying on dollars the conversion rate is also cheaper on subscribestar.
 
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probably not the best place to discuss that, but basically patreon is more expensive but is easier and quicker to get paid.
This is an important consideration. As a freelancer, I often have to deal with the same issue. Do work for someone who will pay less money but on time or rather for someone who will pay more but get to your invoice in their own sweet time. The struggle is real. Thank you. I might take this info into consideration once I take my own game public and am actually comfortable asking for patronage for it.
 

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If I'm being honest I don't know if I could actually do anything bad to Lucien or any other bad guy in the game.
I detest violence and I would feel bad hurting them. It would be easier if they were typical moustache twirling bad guys but I know NeonGhost's writing is so good he won't make them one dimensional like that.
 

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Brent id probably have a harder time since he is just an asshole and not a monster as far as I know just yet. Lucien on the other hand no so much for me since he is selling drugs and who knows what else. But I used to always play the dark path in video games growing up so random acts of violence in games not to tough for me as long as it isn't against a LI or a character I like. Especially because I view Brent and Lucien as a random npc that has depth. but yeah depending on their story id probably think twice before doing something like that , so I really don't know what id do given the option.
 
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If I'm being honest I don't know if I could actually do anything bad to Lucien or any other bad guy in the game.
I detest violence and I would feel bad hurting them. It would be easier if they were typical moustache twirling bad guys but I know NeonGhost's writing is so good he won't make them one dimensional like that.
no need for violence. MC has money and influence, there are other ways to deal with Lucien :)
 
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If I'm being honest I don't know if I could actually do anything bad to Lucien or any other bad guy in the game.
I detest violence and I would feel bad hurting them. It would be easier if they were typical moustache twirling bad guys but I know NeonGhost's writing is so good he won't make them one dimensional like that.
I do love villains with depth. But, I also enjoy a pretty all-around detestable bad guy from time to time too. After all, there really are some fucked up people out there with zero redeeming qualities, or at least people who do such terrible things that are incapable of being redeemed. Lucien might be that guy, whereas Brent & Jamie & even that dude who paid for Nicki's tats can just be more complicated assholes. I'm wondering if Lucien is connected to the shady men who tried to force Nicki to do a porno. Or even Brent's "lenders". Might even be connected to one or more of those "old money" types that Neon mentioned and that we'll be visiting sometime in the future. :unsure:

Lucien is a dealer plus rapist, someone with money and connections can sent his ass to prison easily.
Unless there's a person behind Lucien who has more money and more connections :unsure: Have to keep in mind that Guy is just a rando who won a huge lottery and is smart enough to build off of it. Affecting court outcomes, I'm not sure that's remotely in his cards..
 
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I do love villains with depth. But, I also enjoy a pretty all-around detestable bad guy from time to time too. After all, there really are some fucked up people out there with zero redeeming qualities, or at least people who do such terrible things that are incapable of being redeemed. Lucien might be that guy, whereas Brent & Jamie & even that dude who paid for Nicki's tats can just be more complicated assholes. I'm wondering if Lucien is connected to the shady men who tried to force Nicki to do a porno. Or even Brent's "lenders". Might even be connected to one or more of those "old money" types that Neon mentioned and that we'll be visiting sometime in the future. :unsure:


Unless there's a person behind Lucien who has more money and more connections :unsure: Have to keep in mind that Guy is just a rando who won a huge lottery and is smart enough to build off of it. Affecting court outcomes, I'm not sure that's remotely in his cards..
The person behind Lucien with more money would just have him killed if serious litigation was brought against him as they would expect him to turn states evidence to save his own ass by giving them a bigger fish. Pit of vipers kemosabe.
 
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whacking Lucien has another benefit he can't touch my sweet broken angel Risa. As I know he wants to pimp her out or something after she becomes bad like that girl that was naked on the couch. That was the first thing I thought when I went into the drug den. That if I don't save this angel infront of me he will turn Risa into that girl as that would be her future.
 

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The thing is though what would Mason, Nicki & Risa think if I hurt these evil bastards?
I have a feeling Mason doesn't like violence.
 

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The thing is though what would Mason, Nicki & Risa think if I hurt these evil bastards?
I have a feeling Mason doesn't like violence.
Pretty sure Nicki would be fine with it once you explain the why. At least for Lucient , when it comes to brent I think that depends. While I think Nicki hates Brent and would want to hurt him given the chance I don't think she would want him to be crippled for life or worst. So just stop after breaking a bone or two.

Risa probably be fine too maybe just not at first since Lucien is her dealer. Once Risa calms down and thinks about it I think she be okay with cause she should know Lucien is bad news I mean why else would she want us to come with her to the drug den. If he wasn't bad news she probably just asked for money or stolen it.

Mason well I can't get a read on him need more content. But seeing how easily Mason gets frightened and is scared of people, I think as long as Mason doesn't see Guy do it in person would be fine with it. Because I feel Guy is one of the few people he isn't completely scared of and would probably do almost anything Guy ask.
 

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Pretty sure Nicki would be fine with it once you explain the why. At least for Lucient , when it comes to brent I think that depends. While I think Nicki hates Brent and would want to hurt him given the chance I don't think she would want him to be crippled for life or worst. So just stop after breaking a bone or two.

Risa probably be fine too maybe just not at first since Lucien is her dealer. Once Risa calms down and thinks about it I think she be okay with cause she should know Lucien is bad news I mean why else would she want us to come with her to the drug den. If he wasn't bad news she probably just asked for money or stolen it.

Mason well I can't get a read on him need more content. But seeing how easily Mason gets frightened and is scared of people, I think as long as Mason doesn't see Guy do it in person would be fine with it. Because I feel Guy is one of the few people he isn't completely scared of and would probably do almost anything Guy ask.
I'm going to avoid violence if possible because I don't like it but I will try and get Lucien arrested if he does turn out to be an irredeemable monster.
Same with Brent.

Anyway talking about Mason has made me excited again lol. That bj was awesome especially when i could run my fingers through his hair. I hope we get that option again in the future.
 
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