VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.10 v0.71] [NeonGhosts]

[Pixillin']

Except now it's never going to be no factor at all. The fact Guy has given Nicki money is now permanent part of their relationship.

If Nicki now breaks up with her boyfriend and she has sex with Guy a week later, you're honestly going to claim you fully believe her receiving 20k just few days earlier no longer has any impact on her decisions? I think that'd be just as disingenuous as you say "pretending" in the first place would be.

Maybe but for me it's still better if she is in a situation where she can say she doesn't want to and walk away without suffering for it - which she can. If you're on the nice path, when she comes back she says that she's not in a position to be anyone's girlfriend. You give her a place to stay, buy her new stuff, and offer her a job all before there's any sex. So at that point, if she says "I don't want to" she can be pretty confident that you're not going to punish her for it. It's all about maintaining trust outside of the power dynamic.

 

[ffive]

Maybe but for me it's still better if she is in a situation where she can say she doesn't want to and walk away without suffering for it - which she can.

Wait, i feel like we're now talking of two different things. Or there's a lack of consistency here that's throwing me off? Because on the nice path, in the prologue, when you give her the money and tell her you don't want anything in return for it, Nicki very well can do the thing you say you want from her -- that is, she's able to just walk away, without initiating anything sexual and without suffering any negative consequences for it.

Unless you think that Nicki believes Guy to be a person who, despite saying he doesn't want anything from her, would withhold the money from her if she didn't hit on him there, the way she chooses to do? I admit, i'm confused.

 

[Pixillin']

Wait, i feel like we're now talking of two different things. Or there's a lack of consistency here that's throwing me off?

Nope, none of the above. I don't want a one night stand with Nicki, I want a relationship and at the very least I want her to still be my friend and trust me so - just like I wouldn't fuck her when she's very drunk, I wouldn't fuck her on a night when I gave her $20k - because in either case she's not really in her right head. At least I wouldn't unless we had a prior sexual relationship. I've also said - not while she's still Brent's girlfriend but you've been ignoring that part.

 

[Joshy92]

>_>

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Hey dude I think you talked once about the LI not being perfect and having flaws I'm curious what flaws you consider Nicki & Mason to have.

I'm tyring to think of some but I can't but that could also be because I'm biased or something.

 

[Dessolos]

Hey dude I think you talked once about the LI not being perfect and having flaws I'm curious what flaws you consider Nicki & Mason to have.

I'm tyring to think of some but I can't but that could also be because I'm biased or something.

I know you were asking Neon but thought this was something interesting to think about

Personally I would say one of Nicki's flaws is being too trusting and taken advantage like what brent did to her and put her in tough situation. Where she had again trusted a stranger online just to get some money. Then again when she walked into a the studio which turned to be a porno shoot.

Then I say she has self doubt and worth issues where she doesn't think she is worth a damn because of bad decisions she made in the past like how she didn't think she was worthy of guys love for example because of how she lost the 20k.

 

[Joshy92]

I know you were asking Neon but thought this was something interesting to think about

Personally I would say one of Nicki's flaws is being too trusting and taken advantage like what brent did to her and put her in tough situation. Where she had again trusted a stranger online just to get some money. Then again when she walked into a the studio which turned to be a porno shoot.

Then I say she has self doubt and worth issues where she doesn't think she is worth a damn because of bad decisions she made in the past like how she didn't think she was worthy of guys love for example because of how she lost the 20k.

I like hearing other people's perspectives about the girls. I know I often simp hard for women because they are so perfect but I don't really see any flaws in Nicki, Mason or most of them honestly.

 

[Pixillin']

I like hearing other people's perspectives about the girls. I know I often simp hard for women because they are so perfect but I don't really see any flaws in Nicki, Mason or most of them honestly.

I think all of them have flaws, but not ones I can't live with. Nicki is a bit too trusting (and/or maybe a bit of a sub at heart) and she does have self respect/self esteem issues and pretty much all the others have something but that's part of the game. We either exploit them and their issues or we help them or a bit of both.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Nicki and I would bond in our mutual hatred of Risa

 

[PyoT]

From what I understand one of the major differences is that you’ll be able to give her the money but not have sex with her. I can see that being a good thing if you don’t want a sexual relationship with Nicki (just want to remain friends). I hope there’s also an option to say “Yes, I want to but not like this - only when you’re single, and only when you want to do it without the money. Our first time isn’t going to be because I paid you."

That feels more like deflating the entire tension and making the setup boring ^^#

Oh well. Let's see.

 

[Pixillin']

That feels more like deflating the entire tension and making the setup boring ^^#

Oh well. Let's see.

Neon said there was some other stuff he wanted to fix too, about their prior relationship and dialogue + he’s fixing the art.

 

[NebulousShooter]

“Yes, I want to but not like this - only when you’re single, and only when you want to do it without the money. Our first time isn’t going to be because I paid you."

This is what I wish for, because is the thing I would do if I was in Guy' shoes in that type of situation. But, ultimately I hate forced sex scenes in AVNs in principle.

 

[Joshy92]

You guys know what Guy was saying here right?

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'Why yes I would like pineapple added to my pizza'

 

[soprano31]

Why yes I would like pineapple added to my pizza'

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

This is the scene I was talking about everyone

Spoiler: Nicki

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I know it's a porn game but damn the feelings I had here were strong.

"I need help.."
Ironically, the favorite thing to hear for both romancers and dark path enjoyers

But speaking of favorite romantic scenes (because sexy scenes are all of them, really), I gotta say the most recent one with Gabby is my favorite so far I think. The way she nursed his bruise, how Neon described her scent, very immersive and enduring. Every Gabby scene, I'm wondering what's wrong with all ya'll who don't like her as a LI

Others I loved that were close seconds were Pepper also nursing Guy's bruise and cooking for him at the restaurant ; and anything with Carolina & Brit really.. something about the way they're written makes every encounter feel like a sweet flirtation.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

I get it, but to me what they represent is that Nicki was willing to have someone literally, physically alter "who she was" even though she could look for other options instead. That's not fighting hard, but if anything, quite the opposite -- choosing to compromise your values for an easier out.

I think that's the point of her arc, though. For a very long time, with Brent, florida man, and now Guy depending on how you treat her, she's let herself get run over by various men in her life. I think Neon is planning for her to arc away from that and rediscover who she really is and why it's worth fighting for. A lot of people genuinely have this issue, btw, letting themselves be molded by others, even those with clearly bad intentions. We humans are complicated

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

>_>

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Neon my man, this is stunning and perfect awooga

But, why is there a floating ring on the left, and what in god's name happened to her clam!?

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

and what in god's name happened to her clam!?

well if you took anal only options for her, then her functionality largely doesnt change

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

well if you took anal only options for her, then her functionality largely doesnt change

Good point, good point. But now you have me worried about whether her starfish has been Barbie-fied as well!? Whose farts am I gonna snicker at besides my own now?

 

[Echoesinthedarkness]

Good point, good point. But now you have me worried about whether her starfish has been Barbie-fied as well!? Whose farts am I gonna snicker at besides my own now?

thats where Mason comes into play

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

thats where Mason comes into play

The anal, or the farting? Or.. both?