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NeonGhosts

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That's not how you're supposed to define variables. You should put them above the "ch10_start" label, and use the default keyword:
Python:
default ch10_br_knows = False
default ch10_ms_shirt = False
default ch10_kat_spank = False

label ch10_start:
That way they will always get initialised properly no matter where the player's save is made.
Yeah, I became aware of this a little too late. I’ve already got some (that I used for bug-fixes.. :/ ) in the script file. Once the public version is available, I’ll be going through each chapter and fixing all the variables, while also organizing them in a standardized way.

I’ve just had a mentality of, “Let’s keep doing it as I’ve done it, and then fix it all at once with the relaunch.”
 

Dessolos

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"Based on polling players, most said their playtime for one path was between 1-2 hours."
No way in hell is this update taking anyone 2 hours to finish.
I could care less about Mason and I could give even less of a fuck about Gabby, the only interest I have in Gabby is her mother. Next update is going to suck if it's focused on her.. Speaking of mothers, if the dev is going to keep adding women, he should find a way to get Ashe mother into the mix.
ive yet to play the update but if it's anything like previous update I can tell you probably take me 3-4 hours at least. As I like to check out every choice reload explore different paths even ones im not interested in. Not to mention mini breaks I rarely play AVN's without a break just to briefly look at this site or something else. Point is it depends on the playstyle I can easily see it being 1-2 hours or more depending on how one plays if the choices are like previous updates.
 

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I don't know if it was mentioned, but I encountered some errors regarding unknown variables such as ripath, msglassespath, ch9_mspropositioned:
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Liftoff7073

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sooo, is Viola just out of the game forever if you rape her in the shop? Really hope it's not the case, ability to follow up on dark path is something not many games do, second date with Ashe on dark path was amazing aside from the actual sex scene being 2 frames

also, I kinda get people complaining about new girls taking dev time, even tho Neon argues they're necessary for the world and story, but I'm 100% sure most of the players would prefer to have proper sex scenes with Gabby, Viola, Britt and other maincast girls (esp those without "full" scenes yet) instead of random scene with Dash(?) or Lucius videos. It's not like people expect the whole game world to be limited to LIs, introduce however many characters you feel are needed, just why spend rendering time and your PC lifeblood on scenes with random girls Guy just met (or haven't met at all lmao) instead of making scenes people obviously want?
 

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Playing this update, I was thinking, "was the animation always this poor?" I couldn't remember. It is disappointing. Dev needs to slow it down or something.
 

Dessolos

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Playing this update, I was thinking, "was the animation always this poor?" I couldn't remember. It is disappointing. Dev needs to slow it down or something.
Well this game never had animations to begin with so if there is one instead of a fake animation probably cause it's a first for him
 
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Great update. Wasn't on the Mason path before this but said yes to one scene since it still gave me an option to (nicely played, dev) and now I'll be going back and doing a Mason inclusive playthrough. Liking the way the story's going, impressive cliffhanger work at the end too. Didn't mind Dash coming on the scene, she's an enticing lil fuckette and I'm guessing she'll have some role to play further on, even if only as the possessor of a small but crucial bit of info. Heading to SS to sign up, it's worthy of it.
 

varage

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I quite agree.
So much games lately add characters again and again and never end, it's quite a mess …
Like "Grandma house", "my dorm" and so on. Games I no more play because of that, it seems they want to get more and more long time play (or more money, as many said :() and have no idea for another game.
Well, maybe seems they are not wrong since there are still many that play and comment it. ;):p
Each one his own, I guess, but it will be without me.
Last time I try this one.
The idea was good and teasing, but now it's like telling again and again roughly same things with synonyms.
Sorry :( ;)
Espescially for a game whos design is to never have a harem style end. it goes down the being a dik route. (pre decision of doing single person routes of being a dik 1yr dev time equals about 2 to 3 hours play time. After solo route game time 1 yr dev time equals about 30 minutes to a hour play time.)
 

varage

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Kinda like the dev who's short sided about a fathers sins. "He once said give me an actual story reason to add sex to that game and I will." The story is about a priest that uses Godish powers that cause him to see through clothes etc... I don't know make a route where he can be a devout priest or a route where he can lean heavily into the power and the more erotic scenes increases the power?" lol like he puts something stupid like Ex-ray vision to serve no purpose and says please make it make sense
 

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also, I kinda get people complaining about new girls taking dev time, even tho Neon argues they're necessary for the world and story, but I'm 100% sure most of the players would prefer to have proper sex scenes with Gabby, Viola, Britt and other maincast girls (esp those without "full" scenes yet) instead of random scene with Dash(?) or Lucius videos. It's not like people expect the whole game world to be limited to LIs, introduce however many characters you feel are needed, just why spend rendering time and your PC lifeblood on scenes with random girls Guy just met (or haven't met at all lmao) instead of making scenes people obviously want?
I absolutely get why people want more scenes with the main girls. But, I sort of wrote myself into a position where I couldn't quickly/easily get to ero scenes with some of the characters, without it feeling totally unearned. Then, certain events got more involved/required more time, than I really thought they would.

Like, it's worth pointing out my original plan was for the last three chapters to basically be one chapter: MC wakes up, meets the annoying influencers while running an errand, gives Risa a ride to Lucien's, brings Risa home, visits Alex, encounters Brent, convenes with Nicki and Mason, brings Mason to get glasses, and then goes to get Gabby's dad out of jail.

That all sounds pretty obtainable, when laid out like that. But, as often happens, once I'm writing a scene I start seeing where else it could go. So, taking Risa home becomes taking Risa to a hotel first, for some different ero options. That then becomes two scenes, because a Good Guy MC probably wouldn't just bring her to a hotel, and hey, why not go ahead and address Pepper's camgirl storyline while I'm there at the diner? Then, it's easy to go down a rabbit hole, and what should have been pretty straightforward, becomes a sprawling series of scenes.

Add in that I do want to add some fanservice, and even basic scenes tend to expand past their original plans. So, a scene which could have just been MC going to a store, fading to black, and emerging with milk to encounter the influencers becomes.. MC goes to a store, talks to the girl who works there, establishes that he has partial ownership of the business, encounters Brittani and her mom, and has different routes/options to interact with both her, and Isabella.

All that said: I'm going to try to restrain myself a bit, going forward. Before the conclusion of Season 1 next year, Gabby and Brittani will have their big ero scenes. A couple of dangling story threads will be resolved, and the focus will tighten a bit more. We'll see another girl have departed from the dark path. All of that makes things easier for me to move the story along.

I also have a bad habit of over-explaining certain things, or lingering in scenes for too long. I'm going to try to address that moving forward, by using more storytelling shorthand. Now that everyone's relationship is basically set up, that's considerably easier.

Playing this update, I was thinking, "was the animation always this poor?" I couldn't remember. It is disappointing. Dev needs to slow it down or something.
I have no real interest in doing 24 FPS animations right now. They'd take way too much time, for a result which I feel is underwhelming anyway. Once the first season is complete, I'm going to talk to some people about doing some proper animations. Until then, they'd just feel like a distraction. Same deal with music/sex sound effects. It'll be more work to do them poorly, and then go back and re-do them, rather than to just do them right the first time.
 

Fauxcest

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Actually most of the love interests in-game makes wanna protect them and give them a happy ending.
Yes, it makes me very conflicted because I can easily act as a deranged psycho but then I go back and give them wholesome love. Except for Nickki, she's the only one I treated like a whore
 

Dessolos

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Yes, it makes me very conflicted because I can easily act as a deranged psycho but then I go back and give them wholesome love. Except for Nickki, she's the only one I treated like a whore
even on my Dark path save while it's a limited one as I ctrl skip past the scenes and only really read the dialogue. I did play and see most of the scenes one time , to see if I can handle it. Nicki and Viola are the 2 I just can't do even if I dont see it those dark path scenes are too brutal for me. Ashe on the other hand I do have a save where the MC does rape her then during the date treats her all sweet and doesn't even have sex with her. If I drug her I still don't have sex with her. As to me it makes for an interesting dark path as Guy isn't fully committed to being evil be almost like he wants forgiveness and showing he is a good guy and just made a terrible mistake on impulse.

Granted there is nothing he can do to really be forgiven , and I do hope on that path Ashe never forgives Guy 100%. I do like the if Guy keeps being sweet and trying to make it right that Ashe takes advantage of him and uses guy and makes him think he is forgiven.
 

Fauxcest

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even on my Dark path save while it's a limited one as I ctrl skip past the scenes and only really read the dialogue. I did play and see most of the scenes one time , to see if I can handle it. Nicki and Viola are the 2 I just can't do even if I dont see it those dark path scenes are too brutal for me. Ashe on the other hand I do have a save where the MC does rape her then during the date treats her all sweet and doesn't even have sex with her. If I drug her I still don't have sex with her. As to me it makes for an interesting dark path as Guy isn't fully committed to being evil be almost like he wants forgiveness and showing he is a good guy and just made a terrible mistake on impulse.

Granted there is nothing he can do to really be forgiven , and I do hope on that path Ashe never forgives Guy 100%. I do like the if Guy keeps being sweet and trying to make it right that Ashe takes advantage of him and uses guy and makes him think he is forgiven.
I think I made him rape them all at some point, except for Gabby, Brittani and Viola. Never tried anything dark with them (Viola just because I don't really care for her). But I try not to keep going on any of those paths, I feel like they're all so sweet man, you can't hurt em. But Nicki, just a gold digger, I treated her like a whore again and again but I balance it out and treat her nicely when possible. But in her case it's all her fault, the others did nothing to deserve it
 
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