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I thought the quality bump and more engrossing writing made it feel darker. :unsure: It's hard to go back to the original now.
I didn't do the dark path, but I imagine it would have to be - since Nicki fucks guy before money comes up, and guy offers rather than Nicki asking - it would have to be pretty dark if you rape her after that.
 
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I felt the scene was BETTER but not at all darker. It felt way more like he sadistically broke her if you went full dark in the OG CH1
Yeah, I suppose. But, it also felt less earned and more psycho, and since you don't get much from Nicki beforehand, there's not much connection to the character's suffering, except, you know, a general humanity thing, but that doesn't count for much in movies and games I think unless it's executed extremely well. It was a lot easier to fap to, that's for sure.
 
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I didn't do the dark path, but I imagine it would have to be - since Nicki fucks guy before money comes up, and guy offers rather than Nicki asking - it would have to be pretty dark if you rape her after that.
I mean, she doesn't offer if you are on the dark path, of course.

So does the Taboo patch work with update 0.73, or no?
It does, with Friends in Need. Not Friends Indeed, of course. Also, the old patch file will work, or you can use the new one which is empty - simply the existence of the file is enough to set the appropriate flag. I suspect this is so the version seen by Steam and the rest doesn't have the rather obvious file which says, "patch=true/false" making it more obvious someone is hiding something.
 
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I mean, she doesn't offer if you are on the dark path, of course.
IIRC, and it's been awhile, she comes over, you watch tv, you fuck and it's only after that the money comes up. I don't know how you'd get on the dark path before Nicki's first visit.
 

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IIRC, and it's been awhile, she comes over, you watch tv, you fuck and it's only after that the money comes up. I don't know how you'd get on the dark path before Nicki's first visit.
Well, there is your reaction to seeing Ashe in the park, then if you keep the money the thief leaves you. And then, when Nicki shows up, you have a bunch of opportunities to be gentlemanly and kind (like, you can tell her she looks nice in the dress, or that you thought she was a hooker in front of your door), or a bit boorish. A bunch of other little things. It's sort of like actually seducing a woman - if you make her feel good and comfortable, it's likely going to happen, but if you make her feel a little nervous and disrespected, it doesn't matter if she showed up planning to bang like rabbits, she'll loose interest.
 
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IIRC, and it's been awhile, she comes over, you watch tv, you fuck and it's only after that the money comes up. I don't know how you'd get on the dark path before Nicki's first visit.
To get on Nicki's dark path you need to either look up her skirt or ask her why she really came over. Basically, cockblock yourself, then blackmail her in the second apartment. The sad thing is that you will never know her true feelings that way. It also helps if you have increased your darkness score by being hateful and misogynistic in the previous decisions, so that you can unlock the truly vile ways to treat Nicki.
 

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To get on Nicki's dark path you need to either look up her skirt or ask her why she really came over. Basically, cockblock yourself, then blackmail her in the second apartment. The sad thing is that you will never know her true feelings that way. It also helps if you have increased your darkness score by being hateful and misogynistic in the previous decisions, so that you can unlock the truly vile ways to treat Nicki.
Well, there is your reaction to seeing Ashe in the park, then if you keep the money the thief leaves you. And then, when Nicki shows up, you have a bunch of opportunities to be gentlemanly and kind (like, you can tell her she looks nice in the dress, or that you thought she was a hooker in front of your door), or a bit boorish. A bunch of other little things. It's sort of like actually seducing a woman - if you make her feel good and comfortable, it's likely going to happen, but if you make her feel a little nervous and disrespected, it doesn't matter if she showed up planning to bang like rabbits, she'll loose interest.
Wow ... well, I guess if you work hard it. I was never really tempted by any of those things - but staring at Ashe in the park, when you're single doesn't seem like a hanging offense. Oh well.
 

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Wow ... well, I guess if you work hard it. I was never really tempted by any of those things - but staring at Ashe in the park, when you're single doesn't seem like a hanging offense. Oh well.
I don't remember the scene with Ashe in detail, but didn't you have a choice in the type of response to pick? Smile at her (and she smiles back, surprising you) and a more negative option?
 

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I don't remember the scene with Ashe in detail, but didn't you have a choice in the type of response to pick? Smile at her (and she smiles back, surprising you) and a more negative option?
IIRC, there are two parts to it. There's the part where you smile at her, or just stare at her ass or something like that, and then there are the guys making the lewd comments and (I think just in your head) you say that they're assholes, or that they're right ... or something like that.
 
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IIRC, there are two parts to it. There's the part where you smile at her, or just stare at her ass or something like that, and then there are the guys making the lewd comments and (I think just in your head) you say that they're assholes, or that they're right ... or something like that.
Yup, that sounds about right.
 

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Wow ... well, I guess if you work hard it. I was never really tempted by any of those things - but staring at Ashe in the park, when you're single doesn't seem like a hanging offense. Oh well.
More to do with how you respond to seeing her, and the guys harassing her.
 
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Yeah, I like that scene a lot. It's great when games give you an opportunity to express your perspective on things without punishing you too much for it. I think the worst responses in total give you +1 or +2 dark points, but other than that, it's just a nice way to develop your MC. Even some of the more self-centered responses should be pretty relatable to most guys at least at one point in their life. Like about how she dresses 'she knows what she's doing'. It's so easy for people to project their own head space onto others when in reality what they do has nothing to do with you or your frustrations and insecurities at all, and I like how this VN captures stuff like that. If you're paying attention, it becomes clear how mistaken your MC can be when you get to know Ashe.
 
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