Again, that's my point. I wasn't even offered the option to rape her. And "being mean to her" doesn't open up future dark choices like wine+pills.You guys are really confused here. There's way more than two options. Go and play around with the game, see for yourself.If you don't rape the brazilian girl...
You are not forced to keep doing the creepy shit. Rather than "locks you onto it" you can view it as unlocking extra options, through the early despicable behavior from the MC.
The game still has the grey area paths with LIs when it's coercion rather than outright rape and stuff. Honestly, i'd say if you can only see it as black and white it's more of a "you" issue than the game's.
The game has been like that even in the original iteration though. It had "dark points" counter and if you didn't accumulate enough of them through your actions you were locked out of some of the dark options. If you haven't experienced it first-hand, perhaps it was because you've done enough dark stuff you didn't even realize it was a thing...?
I would play a grey path if on it, we can convince Isabella to eat out Brittney. How fucking sexy would that be?
pretty sure there is a Nicki Anal scene on the love path if you choose to do so when you go to her new apartment just not sure if the rework is up to date on that or not
Idk because I don't use wakthroughs but my impression is that I can't access some options that were there in the OG as easily as before. Like Pepeer's dark scene at the cafe.
Ok, you misunderstand the game's routes, especially the dark route. There are more routes than just "nice" and "dark", there is also corruption/domination, which is in between the two, and each route has many shades within. The dark route is specifically the rape route where LIs will fear you; it is not the route where you slowly manipulate a LI for your own interests. If you want to play a rapist, just do some raping at the beginning to establish your character. Otherwise, this game is obviously trying to have plausible, internally consistent characters, and that includes the MC. An MC that spares both brazil girl and Nicki, whose thoughts are innocent and normal, yet rapes Ashe in the alley, doesn't really make sense because dark MC is someone who fetishizes sadistic control.
I think you shouldn't expect this game to be an absolute free-for-all of choice.I agree about this actually. In general, outside of something specific like being able to do something based on previously developed skills, i think the games shouldn't gate MC's options based on previously taken actions. The effects should be limited to shaping NPC behavior towards MC, based on how they were treated in the past. Bonus points if NPC can take note if MC has some sort of personality shift, either towards them or otherwise acting in a manner they haven't witnessed previously.
What if that weakens the writing and plausability, though, for both the author and many players?
Considering people in reality are not locked to certain behaviors simply because that's how they behaved in the past, i can't really see how it would reduce plausibility (or writing quality) if you are able to act like a real person.
There aren't just two paths - there are four basic routes you can choose with most/all of the LI. Romance, light corruption, dark corruption, and evil. And there are some variations on all of these as well.
The latest version does have Ashe's date. It ends right after the mini-story about Nicki's ex (Brent?). Basically, Guy's story so far ends the morning after her date. Some really good new dark stuff in her date - stuff that got left out in the rush to finish it last time. But one thing to make sure we are all clear on here - drugging her, even if you don't do anything, IS on the rape path, period. Using knock out drugs on someone without consent is absolutely the same level of violation, even if you don't stick your dick in her. It absolutely makes sense that it would be locked away on the violent rapist path.Ok, you misunderstand the game's routes, especially the dark route. There are more routes than just "nice" and "dark", there is also corruption/domination, which is in between the two, and each route has many shades within. The dark route is specifically the rape route where LIs will fear you; it is not the route where you slowly manipulate a LI for your own interests. If you want to play a rapist, just do some raping at the beginning to establish your character. Otherwise, this game is obviously trying to have plausible, internally consistent characters, and that includes the MC. An MC that spares both brazil girl and Nicki, whose thoughts are innocent and normal, yet rapes Ashe in the alley, doesn't really make sense because dark MC is someone who fetishizes sadistic control.
If you want dark options (outside of the dark route), they're there in abundance for you. Your MC can absolutely be a piece of shit who basically is a rapist, ignoring the LI's protests and falling way short of full consent, just not the aggressive impulsive dark route rapist kind, you see? You can even be sugary sweet to LIs, and yet still do selfish, toxic things in the romance route, like push for anal, cum on a LI's face when she explicitly tells you not to, etc. Your MC can abuse boundaries and manipulate the LIs under the guise of love. You see the spectrum here? It's not at all black and white.
As for the Ashe drugged scene, like I already told you, the latest release of the game isn't caught back up to Ashe's date. So, what version are you playing? Look, afaik, in the old version, drugging Ashe on the date only requires the patch and the allergy pills, so maybe you missed one of those in your playthrough. But even if it requires dark points, again, it makes sense from the perspective of the character.
If you want to play the game in a way that isn't intended, you should use the URM mod and force the drugged scene, but do at your own risk; crashes and errors and all that.
Ashe's date has an anal scene, after she asks Guy to hurt her (this is the romance route - she's a freaky girl, if she is comfortable with the MC).
There's a butt plug, but I don't think there is any actual anal.
Who are exactly the love interests? All the girls in the game? Cause I personnally have interests with Britanni, Pepper and Carolina (and some other ones I'm ok with). But at the opposite, I absolutely don't care about Risa, Ashe, Nicky, Madison and Mason.
