VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

[Dark Silence]

She’d run away and have her mothers medical care taken away?
No no, I think she’ll do whatever we want as long as we help her mommy.

Bro, I'm serious. She's a very timid and sensitive girl. Just make Risa pay for the kindness and love you give Viola and her mom.

 

[The Anti]

The Dark Path Spares no soul

 

[Dark Silence]

The Dark Path Spares no soul

Well, if NeonGhosts keeps to his word about a couple of girls, you will lose them.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Viola? Yeah, first time you get rough, she'll run away and you'll never see her again. I'm pretty sure NeonGhosts stated that before.

Did he say that? She runs away if you rape her when you first meet her, but I don't remember him saying that she would always do so even if you ease her into it more and are paying her more.

 

[blkcrow20]

I don't think he said that specifically but he did say, if you treat the girls like crap, they will leave.

 

[Maviarab]

She’d run away and have her mothers medical care taken away?
No no, I think she’ll do whatever we want as long as we help her mommy.

Then you're not understanding. Neon has stated. You rape her...she will disppear out of the story...just as Nikki does/can.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Theres a part of me that hopes if you keep raping Ashe that her big assed father comes and beats the shit out of OP. I know it wont happen, but that would be awesome for the story as opposed to the how much abuse is too much abuse to get each girl to leave game

 

[Ragnar]

I think anything can happen in the worse paths. In example if you rape Viola at the shop I wouldn't be surprised if later down the line Guy ends in prison for it. Neon has said he wants to keep the story grounded in reality, no power armor for the MC.
And that's fine, maybe you can get away with grooming, like giving drugs to Risa in exchange for sex but if go around raping women you're asking for the electric chair ending.

 

[Joshy92]

The only thing I have to worry about is losing all my money buying expensive gifts for all my sweethearts.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Then you're not understanding. Neon has stated. You rape her...she will disppear out of the story...just as Nikki does/can.

He said if you rape her in her first appearance she disappears. The idea that if he gets his hooks into her and makes her mother's care dependant on him and she still runs away? That's all you.

 

[GokutheG]

The only thing I have to worry about is losing all my money buying expensive gifts for all my sweethearts.

You have to keep some money to help the future sweethearts.

 

[Dark Silence]

Did he say that? She runs away if you rape her when you first meet her, but I don't remember him saying that she would always do so even if you ease her into it more and are paying her more.

Neon is the only one who can answer that. I can only state what I said previous.

 

[Maviarab]

He said if you rape her in her first appearance she disappears. The idea that if he gets his hooks into her and makes her mother's care dependant on him and she still runs away? That's all you.

As per usual Mr Perfect and knowledgeable...you're projecting.

As you can only rape (interact with) her once currently...what I said stands as accurate. Did I make any mention to what may happen in the future if you don't go the entire way? No...I didn't did I?

Just stating facts as told by Neon.

 

[NeonGhosts]

I talked about this a bit on my Discord, but basically, after a certain point some routes will just close off because it doesn't make sense for them to continue. Like, if you didn't take the dark path with Character X at junctures A or B, then why would you at C?

Like.. Let's take Gabby's friend path, as a neutral example. Let's say you've played the last several chapters only being friendly with Gabby. I don't think it'd make sense to then have your character suddenly have the option to be a raging dickhead. Buuuut, it may make sense for the player to see her in financial need and say, "Hey, maybe it's not your thing, but I'm doing this calendar, and I could pay you for it. You just need to be naked." Or, "Well, if you ever wanted to make some extra money, I could use someone to accompany me on dates. And if you wanted to make even more money, well.."

Both of these scenarios could lead to the player having a 'corruption' style relationship with Gabby, where the dynamic is really one the player is taking advantage of his wealth in a way that's morally dubious, but not really capital-e Evil.

Likewise, if you've had a purely romantic relationship with Ashe, with no pushing of her boundaries or anything, the character likely won't turn on a dime and decide, "Well, now that we've been dating for a month, I can be a real jerk." I feel like that time's basically come and gone -- either you've decided to have a toxic relationship with her, or not.

I want to keep the freedom for players to adjust in good and evil ways, but there is a limit, both in terms of workload, and what the narrative will support. There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.

 

[Dark Silence]

I talked about this a bit on my Discord, but basically, after a certain point some routes will just close off because it doesn't make sense for them to continue. Like, if you didn't take the dark path with Character X at junctures A or B, then why would you at C?

Like.. Let's take Gabby's friend path, as a neutral example. Let's say you've played the last several chapters only being friendly with Gabby. I don't think it'd make sense to then have your character suddenly have the option to be a raging dickhead. Buuuut, it may make sense for the player to see her in financial need and say, "Hey, maybe it's not your thing, but I'm doing this calendar, and I could pay you for it. You just need to be naked." Or, "Well, if you ever wanted to make some extra money, I could use someone to accompany me on dates. And if you wanted to make even more money, well.."

Both of these scenarios could lead to the player having a 'corruption' style relationship with Gabby, where the dynamic is really one the player is taking advantage of his wealth in a way that's morally dubious, but not really capital-e Evil.

Likewise, if you've had a purely romantic relationship with Ashe, with no pushing of her boundaries or anything, the character likely won't turn on a dime and decide, "Well, now that we've been dating for a month, I can be a real jerk." I feel like that time's basically come and gone -- either you've decided to have a toxic relationship with her, or not.

I want to keep the freedom for players to adjust in good and evil ways, but there is a limit, both in terms of workload, and what the narrative will support. There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.

Some people though still won't believe anything even when the words are right there in front of them. They'll continue to harp on what's what and how's how, till they're blue in the face.

 

[Ragnar]

There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.

It can be interesting to see how some characters situation change for the better with Guy's help.

 

[With The]

I talked about this a bit on my Discord, but basically, after a certain point some routes will just close off because it doesn't make sense for them to continue. Like, if you didn't take the dark path with Character X at junctures A or B, then why would you at C?

Like.. Let's take Gabby's friend path, as a neutral example. Let's say you've played the last several chapters only being friendly with Gabby. I don't think it'd make sense to then have your character suddenly have the option to be a raging dickhead. Buuuut, it may make sense for the player to see her in financial need and say, "Hey, maybe it's not your thing, but I'm doing this calendar, and I could pay you for it. You just need to be naked." Or, "Well, if you ever wanted to make some extra money, I could use someone to accompany me on dates. And if you wanted to make even more money, well.."

Both of these scenarios could lead to the player having a 'corruption' style relationship with Gabby, where the dynamic is really one the player is taking advantage of his wealth in a way that's morally dubious, but not really capital-e Evil.

Likewise, if you've had a purely romantic relationship with Ashe, with no pushing of her boundaries or anything, the character likely won't turn on a dime and decide, "Well, now that we've been dating for a month, I can be a real jerk." I feel like that time's basically come and gone -- either you've decided to have a toxic relationship with her, or not.

I want to keep the freedom for players to adjust in good and evil ways, but there is a limit, both in terms of workload, and what the narrative will support. There's going to be a little time-skip in the game soon, and I want to have a few characters pretty firmly established in their feelings towards the MC, by the time that happens.

I hope you didnt make to much realistic, dark path is one of the reason most people like your game.

 

[Maviarab]

I hope you didnt make to much realistic, dark path is one of the reason most people like your game.

I'm a dark path fan (though rarely speak up about it)....but I play those paths firmly knowing that they most likely won't end very well for the MC.

Anyone plays them expecting the MC to do whataver he likes and waltz off to the Caribbean scott-free...that's on them when it all goes to shit. Part of the reason I play those paths actually...I want to see what shit Neon gets the MC into when it all comes crashing down around him.

 

[Dessolos]

I'm a dark path fan (though rarely speak up about it)....but I play those paths firmly knowing that they most likely won't end very well for the MC.

Anyone plays them expecting the MC to do whataver he likes and waltz off to the Caribbean scott-free...that's on them when it all goes to shit. Part of the reason I play those paths actually...I want to see what shit Neon gets the MC into when it all comes crashing down around him.

yeah even tho im anti dark path 99% of the time I still play it because I want to see the consequences, I just kind of skip the lewd scenes on that path and read the other bits of dialogue. With how good Neon is at showing facial emotions might be too much for me if I watched them.

 

[Bombmaster]

I'm a dark path fan (though rarely speak up about it)....but I play those paths firmly knowing that they most likely won't end very well for the MC.

Anyone plays them expecting the MC to do whataver he likes and waltz off to the Caribbean scott-free...that's on them when it all goes to shit. Part of the reason I play those paths actually...I want to see what shit Neon gets the MC into when it all comes crashing down around him.

having consequences is fun, Neon gives us extreme options...

like a good Guy, Simpiest man alive, Joshy incarnate.

The bad "normal" Guy, Being a little harsh and a cunt, without doing extreme things, Like normal folks.

And the ugly "evil" Guy that can do anything and maybe gets a bad ending, or not because reasons!