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Ashleigh is the best :p, but Nicki is great too, and I really like her tattoos, even though I'm normally not a fan.

I heard she had a different tattoos in the earlier versions, but people didn't like so Neon changed it, is that true?

Edit: Just saw previous version of tattoos on a page 19, and current version is sooooooo much better.
 
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Brother, I've been saving up for so long when the chapter 1 remake comes out

I'm going to be overjoyed to play it

I'm going to be super curious if Nikki and Ash are still going to be almost a tie for number one wife and baby mama

Although I love them both, Ash has always been number one because it was always easier to get a serious relationship out of Ash

Because in the older version of the game, it always felt like Nikki never had feelings for me until I had money

And only after I helped Nikki magically have feelings for me out of nowhere

But I heard from other people's comments that the remake of episode 1 is different
So, this was one of the big things I really wanted to rectify, with this little do-over. It increasingly didn’t sit right with me that Nicki, being such a good friend, would hit up Guy for money in the manner she did. Now, on the love path you can sleep with Nicki before the subject of money (and Brent’s fuck-up) ever comes up.

I didn’t want to fully lose that thing in the original where Guy is wary of Nicki’s motives, though. So, that’s retained in a different way, where Guy’s given a warning about the perils of being wealthy and having old friends suddenly show up with their hands out.
 

Dark Silence

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So, this was one of the big things I really wanted to rectify, with this little do-over. It increasingly didn’t sit right with me that Nicki, being such a good friend, would hit up Guy for money in the manner she did. Now, on the love path you can sleep with Nicki before the subject of money (and Brent’s fuck-up) ever comes up.

I didn’t want to fully lose that thing in the original where Guy is wary of Nicki’s motives, though. So, that’s retained in a different way, where Guy’s given a warning about the perils of being wealthy and having old friends suddenly show up with their hands out.
So, are you still going to give us the option to get on her the friends only path at the start right?
 

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Brother, I've been saving up for so long when the chapter 1 remake comes out

I'm going to be overjoyed to play it

I'm going to be super curious if Nikki and Ash are still going to be almost a tie for number one wife and baby mama

Although I love them both, Ash has always been number one because it was always easier to get a serious relationship out of Ash

Because in the older version of the game, it always felt like Nikki never had feelings for me until I had money

And only after I helped Nikki magically have feelings for me out of nowhere

But I heard from other people's comments that the remake of episode 1 is different
Beware that the reworked chapter 1 will contains only that chapter.

The following chapters up to chapter 10 will release in a month or so.
 

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Now, on the love path you can sleep with Nicki before the subject of money (and Brent’s fuck-up) ever comes up.
Before update: "Nicki is a whore, she only sleeps with Guy for his money!"
After update: "Nicki is a slut, she sleeps with Guy when she just was (or still is) with Brent!"

it's not about facts, haters gonna hate. :sneaky:
 

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from a relationship stand point, nikki is meh. girl is dumb as rocks. from a lewd angle, she is the perfect onahole. no matter what route MC takes, she puts out, always there to take his loads. and then she handles his buys work as a pa to top it off.
 
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from a relationship stand point, nikki is meh. girl is dumb as rocks. from a lewd angle, she is the perfect onahole. no matter what route MC takes, she puts out, always there to take his loads. and then she handles his buys work as a pa to top it off.
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So, this was one of the big things I really wanted to rectify, with this little do-over. It increasingly didn’t sit right with me that Nicki, being such a good friend, would hit up Guy for money in the manner she did. Now, on the love path you can sleep with Nicki before the subject of money (and Brent’s fuck-up) ever comes up.

I didn’t want to fully lose that thing in the original where Guy is wary of Nicki’s motives, though. So, that’s retained in a different way, where Guy’s given a warning about the perils of being wealthy and having old friends suddenly show up with their hands out.
It's easy to look at the original situation and think Nicki is anything but a friend in how she approaches Guy for money. It does sort of set her up for the less than positive reception options. But I think there is also a way of reading it that she is desperate, deep down in the rabbit hole with her scummy boyfriend's antics, making her desperate for a solution. So she hits up Guy as a last resort. Then the player has the decision to make how to respond to it. Be magnanimous, be angry and rage, or something in between. IMO the scene worked.

My problem was her disappearance and reappearance afterwards. That didn't work very well if the player was magnanimous. Her reappearance really is hard to swallow if you were nice to her originally and treated her well. But again the scene was well written, you could respond harshly (the bathroom action), but still come back from the brink, or go down the dark path. It worked both ways, but it did seem to paint Nicki in a pretty dark way. Coming back to Guy, again, after he helps her, maybe had some magic moment, and then ghosts him. Harsh. But it still worked because Nicky had a giant anchor around her neck in the form of her boyfriend.

I'm hoping the re-write won't be sunshine and daises. The original version starts Nicki off in a pretty dark light, but opens up some great character arc options for redemption or retribution. Understandably that might be a nightmare down the road with drastically different paths and coding/writing requirements. But I've always thought Guy's relationship with Nicki is set up to be the core of the game, so having some player agency in how that pans out is really appreciated.

Love the game, looking forward to how things shape up and where the story goes.
 
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It's easy to look at the original situation and think Nicki is anything but a friend in how she approaches Guy for money. It does sort of set her up for the less than positive reception options. But I think there is also a way of reading it that she is desperate, deep down in the rabbit hole with her scummy boyfriend's antics, making her desperate for a solution. So she hits up Guy as a last resort. Then the player has the decision to make how to respond to it. Be magnanimous, be angry and rage, or something in between. IMO the scene worked.

My problem was her disappearance and reappearance afterwards. That didn't work very well if the player was magnanimous. Her reappearance really is hard to swallow if you were nice to her originally and treated her well. But again the scene was well written, you could respond harshly (the bathroom action), but still come back from the brink, or go down the dark path. It worked both ways, but it did seem to paint Nicki in a pretty dark way. Coming back to Guy, again, after he helps her, maybe had some magic moment, and then ghosts him. Harsh. But it still worked because Nicky had a giant anchor around her neck in the form of her boyfriend.

I'm hoping the re-write won't be sunshine and daises. The original version starts Nicki off in a pretty dark light, but opens up some great character arc options for redemption or retribution. Understandably that might be a nightmare down the road with drastically different paths and coding/writing requirements. But I've always thought Guy's relationship with Nicki is set up to be the core of the game, so having some player agency in how that pans out is really appreciated.

Love the game, looking forward to how things shape up and where the story goes.
I would like a lot to see the dark side of Niki, she’s like a lost girl who at the end find the good way.
 

ffive

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My problem was her disappearance and reappearance afterwards. That didn't work very well if the player was magnanimous. Her reappearance really is hard to swallow if you were nice to her originally and treated her well.
I thought it worked pretty well -- Nicki was clearly too ashamed to turn to Guy for help again after he's already helped her once, so she tried to resolve this situation on her own, with poor result. She only overcomes her reluctance to reach out again because she's at breaking point after her near-rape experience, and Guy is the only person she feels she can turn to.

I don't think there's anything about it that didn't work with treating her well. If anything, it's her turning to Guy where you've treated her badly, that doesn't make much sense.
 

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from a relationship stand point, nikki is meh. girl is dumb as rocks. from a lewd angle, she is the perfect onahole. no matter what route MC takes, she puts out, always there to take his loads. and then she handles his buys work as a pa to top it off.
nah for me id kill to have someone like Nicki. To me a relationship where you are friends first and foremost is more important than someone that wasn't a good friend beforehand. As to me it would also mean you or the other person would probably try harder to make things work if it turns into a romantic relationship , as neither one would want it to turn ugly and ruin a friendship if it can be helped. Yeah I know sometimes it's best to only stay as friends and not even go in that direction as it can get messy. But to me a relationship that works when you are friends first is more ideal to me.
 

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nah for me id kill to have someone like Nicki. To me a relationship where you are friends first and foremost is more important than someone that wasn't a good friend beforehand. As to me it would also mean you or the other person would probably try harder to make things work if it turns into a romantic relationship , as neither one would want it to turn ugly and ruin a friendship if it can be helped. Yeah I know sometimes it's best to only stay as friends and not even go in that direction as it can get messy. But to me a relationship that works when you are friends first is more ideal to me.
I agree with this. I see Nicki as guys anchor. They were friends before for a long time, so she's the only one who can tell him if he starts to get out of control, because she's the only one who'd see the difference. She's his assistant - handles all of his email, phone calls, does research on places where he might be putting his money and just as a gf - she enjoys fucking, video games and anime and is super protective (and only occasionally jealous). I'm all in on the Nicki solo path.
 
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nah for me id kill to have someone like Nicki. To me a relationship where you are friends first and foremost is more important than someone that wasn't a good friend beforehand. As to me it would also mean you or the other person would probably try harder to make things work if it turns into a romantic relationship , as neither one would want it to turn ugly and ruin a friendship if it can be helped. Yeah I know sometimes it's best to only stay as friends and not even go in that direction as it can get messy. But to me a relationship that works when you are friends first is more ideal to me.
and they have all the shit in common, they work good together, they are into each other from the beginning. Somewhat damaged, but a really good gf material.
 

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Nicki is a bitch! She came back with tattoos instead of 3 months pregnant! :cry::LOL:
If such scenario were to happen, that would be quite the surprise if Neon were to make it a reality and the protagonist is definitely passing out due to the revelation. The same could be said about other LIs like Ashe, Risa and so on if some time passes by.
 

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I am curious to which degree the content with Cassie will go. Both for love and dark routes. More so when you consider how much of a dick he can be. For example with Ash.
Would be quite wild if same to some degree was applicable to Cassie but I doubt it considering she's his sister.
 
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I'm pretty sure that once the chapter one remake is out, there will be no forced sex scenes in the entire game.

Seriously, that is an awesome thing and Neon goes out of his way to give us choices on who we bang and that is welcome every time.
 
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