Joshy92
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That's it Cassie honey seduce that hot girl 
Cassie & I could even eat some pussy together.
Cassie & I could even eat some pussy together.
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Dessolos
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I mean I don't think anything been confirmed and I very much doubt it
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That's a noob mistake Neon, you can't introduce hot models and say they won't be fuckable.
Next time make it a dude and nobody will care
Next time make it a dude and nobody will care
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Nerv_rr
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it means he cares about dudes , wich is very sus
Maybe not confirmed but very much hinted. Her flirting with the lawyer at end of content then those update photos, it's hinting pretty hard.
IIRC there's also pictures of Cassie with her "friend" in the earlier part of the game/Halloween special that make Guy wonder if those two are maybe more than friends.
Not that it means all that much. Bisexual people exist, so Cassie getting it on with girls doesn't have to exclude y'all's incest fantasies.
Dessolos
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still doesn't mean she won't play both sides and knowing how this game handles and respects player choice it would 100% be optional anyways so I don't see the big deal
If nothing else, hopefully there'll at least be option to tell Cassie to refrain from hitting on your employees. When the owner's relative is given free rein to harass the workers the power dynamics make for pretty poor optics.
That's true, I just remembered Mason. You can refer to him as a Girl and without going totally dark route.
I've enjoyed this one so much, most other VN's pale in comparison to me. Are there any other games that come close to the amount of options and choices?
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Just finished the Episode 1 remaster, and honestly, I didn't love the changes to Nicki. It feels like she lost a lot of her agency. The two biggest changes were Guy sort of pushing her into getting with Brent, and her not knowing about Guy’s wealth until after she visits.
In the original, those were her own decisions, they gave her depth, led to character development, and let her arc mirror Guy’s in a certain way. Depending on the player's choices, Guy could turn out selfish or thoughtful, and it was cool seeing how the choices of the two characters led them to their meeting point. Nicki went through hardship, but came out the other side knowing that she wouldn’t make the same mistakes again. Guy on the other hand, came into wealth, so he could afford to make mistakes without the same hardships. The player would end up choosing if their two paths were in contrast (if Guy was an asshole) or in parallel (if Guy was more thoughtful).
Now, Nicki not being responsible for what happened to her, removes some of the complexity. Not that she was responsible before, but there was some gray area, which I thought gave depth. Her arc doesn't mirror Guy's as much, and in the remaster, she feels less like a flawed, growing person and more like a static "can-do-no-wrong" type character. Less layered I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Not trying to hate, just my take. Curious what others think as more people play the update.
In the original, those were her own decisions, they gave her depth, led to character development, and let her arc mirror Guy’s in a certain way. Depending on the player's choices, Guy could turn out selfish or thoughtful, and it was cool seeing how the choices of the two characters led them to their meeting point. Nicki went through hardship, but came out the other side knowing that she wouldn’t make the same mistakes again. Guy on the other hand, came into wealth, so he could afford to make mistakes without the same hardships. The player would end up choosing if their two paths were in contrast (if Guy was an asshole) or in parallel (if Guy was more thoughtful).
Now, Nicki not being responsible for what happened to her, removes some of the complexity. Not that she was responsible before, but there was some gray area, which I thought gave depth. Her arc doesn't mirror Guy's as much, and in the remaster, she feels less like a flawed, growing person and more like a static "can-do-no-wrong" type character. Less layered I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Not trying to hate, just my take. Curious what others think as more people play the update.
SplashCC
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I'll tell you as soon as I get the chance to play it. But I suppose that it changed because that "mistake over mistake" Nicki made was the major reason people disliked her. Not me though, so I presume I'll agree with you if what you said is the truth.
Every time I look at the waitress here, all I hear is the sound of bone cracking D: Someone bring her to a hospital!
And on Cassie's sexuality, I'm gonna repeat myself and say there are tons of chicks who are playfully flirty with other girls and not lez or bi. I'm leaning towards it just being a cute personality quirk until we see her slurp on some sliz
armond
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Funny, when I see her I feel a bone popping
Every time I look at the waitress here, all I hear is the sound of bone cracking D: Someone bring her to a hospital!
And on Cassie's sexuality, I'm gonna repeat myself and say there are tons of chicks who are playfully flirty with other girls and not lez or bi. I'm leaning towards it just being a cute personality quirk until we see her slurp on some sliz
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FYI:
In the original conception of Nicki, she was intended to be like a really good work friend of Guy, but not a super close friend-friend. So, a lot of her actions in the original Chapter 1 are framed through that lens.
But, when I began writing Chapter 2, I kinda soft-retconned that, writing her as more of a good friend, with a shared history. When I rewrote Chapter 1, part of my goal was to connect what Nicki would eventually become, to her starting point. Bearing that in mind, it just didn't make much sense to me that she'd bluntly hit Guy up for money, or go along with Brent's scheme to get money from him by taking advantage of his crush. And it never really made sense that dim-bulb Brent was able to mysteriously discern that Guy had come into sudden wealth.
Now, as for the themes, etc: My intention with the rewrite is to really frame this sudden cash windfall, and Nicki's reaction to losing it, as her journey to mirror Guy's. Like, she needs (and then later loses..) the exact same amount of money that Guy initially buys into Kobalt Koin with. That then sets her on her journey which leads to LonelyFans, Florida Man, tattoos, and trauma. Which connects with what Guy's lawyer warns him about in this chapter: that money, even given with the best of intentions, can lead to more harm than good. I think a lot of her flawed decision making is still retained, it's just softened a bit at the outset.
I'd also say the story doesn't really show Guy pushing Nicki to date Brent. She asked him if she should go on a date with Brent, hoping/thinking that Guy would finally nut up and admit he liked her. But, he didn't. So she went on the date, it went well, and the rest is history. Despite Brent being a jackass, I don't think it's unreasonable to see why Nicki would take him up on his offer, and even continue dating him. He's dumb, and makes crap decisions, but he's also fun, confident, and ambitious. i.e. basically everything Guy, the human wet blanket, is not at this point in the story.
All that said, I appreciate the feedback! I'll be curious to see what the reactions are like.
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I think that's all pretty fair, but to explain my rationale..
In the original conception of Nicki, she was intended to be like a really good work friend of Guy, but not a super close friend-friend. So, a lot of her actions in the original Chapter 1 are framed through that lens.
But, when I began writing Chapter 2, I kinda soft-retconned that, writing her as more of a good friend, with a shared history. When I rewrote Chapter 1, part of my goal was to connect what Nicki would eventually become, to her starting point. Bearing that in mind, it just didn't make much sense to me that she'd bluntly hit Guy up for money, or go along with Brent's scheme to get money from him by taking advantage of his crush. And it never really made sense that dim-bulb Brent was able to mysteriously discern that Guy had come into sudden wealth.
Now, as for the themes, etc: My intention with the rewrite is to really frame this sudden cash windfall, and Nicki's reaction to losing it, as her journey to mirror Guy's. Like, she needs (and then later loses..) the exact same amount of money that Guy initially buys into Kobalt Koin with. That then sets her on her journey which leads to LonelyFans, Florida Man, tattoos, and trauma. Which connects with what Guy's lawyer warns him about in this chapter: that money, even given with the best of intentions, can lead to more harm than good. I think a lot of her flawed decision making is still retained, it's just softened a bit at the outset.
I'd also say the story doesn't really show Guy pushing Nicki to date Brent. She asked him if she should go on a date with Brent, hoping/thinking that Guy would finally nut up and admit he liked her. But, he didn't. So she went on the date, it went well, and the rest is history. Despite Brent being a jackass, I don't think it's unreasonable to see why Nicki would take him up on his offer, and even continue dating him. He's dumb, and makes crap decisions, but he's also fun, confident, and ambitious. i.e. basically everything Guy, the human wet blanket, is not at this point in the story.
All that said, I appreciate the feedback! I'll be curious to see what the reactions are like.
NewTricks
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There isn't any evidence that she has that exclusive sexual preference. It is strongly inferred, mind you, but not confirmed. It's not as if this VN is swimming in hot men or anything.
Not to argue too much, but there were some people in this thread whose very complaint about Nicky was, "They're supposed to be close friends but she's being manipulative instead of asking him outright! That bitch!" so, at least to some people some behavior would evidently make sense.
Hmm but isn't it reaction not to losing the money, but to lacking it when it's needed? I mean, if Nicky never got the money from Guy, are you saying she wouldn't try to earn them herself in the same way she did, but... what, she'd have just curled up and let Brent peddle her ass to the porn makers, or something?
What i mean is, i don't really see how the plot validates/connects with the lawyer's platitudes in any way, because i don't feel like Guy helping his friend is somehow to... i don't know, put a blame on his doorstep for what has happened to her? Or even really related.
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Nah, I'm not laying the blame on Guy. The point is that we don't really know what would have happened. Maybe Nicki would've figured something else out. Maybe Brent would've taken the fall by himself and left town, leaving Nicki no choice but to stay with Guy. In that case, maybe Guy intervenes directly, and Brent never gets the chance to steal the money, so Nicki never goes away, never meets Vaughn, never winds up at the porn shoot, etc.
Like, that's the big theme of the game, and those
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photosets I do: fate hinges on the smallest decisions, and unexpected consequences arise from every decision. It's important to remember that Nicki getting that money ultimately only resulted in Brent using it to dig their hole even deeper, increasing the danger and ultimately causing Nicki and Brent to leave town. But, it also resulted in Nicki breaking up with Brent, and finding her way back to Guy, and ultimately (on the good paths..) making a life for herself that's way more fulfilling than her old one.So, it's up to your interpretation as to whether it was ultimately a good thing or a bad thing, to give her the money.