I hate to say it, but since Steam is so finicky, it might be best for Neon to only submit Friends Indeed and let word of mouth about a more intense version drive traffic to his Subscribestar. It sucks, but it is the better business decision in the long run.
He can just put Friends in Need on there, with most stuff locked behind the patch.
Well, that's a good straw man. Who's talking about the people who say they're leaving the game? What I said is that there are a lot of people who didn't like the remake, and I did so by responding to a user who said that everyone had to agree that all the game's updates have been quality. And that's what I deny. No, not everyone has to agree with that. In fact, there are plenty of arguments to argue otherwise. Does that mean there can't be many people who think the game is excellent? No, of course not. For me, this game was the best on this site for a long time. But then things started to change. The game's tone shifted. Some will like it more, others less. I don't like it, frankly. And that's what I criticize.
Yurp, this is the route I plan to take. I’ll most likely include the corruption content in the Steam build, and omit the dark path. I also need to look at some stuff around Mason. I’m not sure if I’ll run afoul of any rules around hate speech, etc. even though the story is ultimately sympathetic to Mason’s experience.
What happened ? Is this game not dark anymore ? What do you mean by tonal shifts and what narrative changes was done? I am coming to this game after a long time , Please get me up to date
As far i know he has not mentioned gender reassignment in any post..
Considering they've been on this exact thing for at least days now im sure you are going to get a very unbiased answer. Why there still here after 6+ months of the game going down hill (multiple updates) is anybodies guess
What about the darkness? is the game getting soft?Considering they've been on this exact thing for at least days now im sure you are going to get a very unbiased answer. Why there still here after 6+ months of the game going down hill (multiple updates) is anybodies guess
Real answer: chapter 1 was remade, changes are not universally liked (realationship between Nicki and Guy)......but the poster you are quoting says issues started waaaaay back when ashe and Guy last hung out, there was never any foreshadowing to a "bigger bad guy" (drug dealer), and a lot of other things that would have made sense to bring up when they happened instead of now
No and considering Neon talks about it in his plans for the steam release it doesn't seem like there will be any change (beyond characters wanting to get tf away from dark Guy
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Not for me cause I never go that route in the old version. As a Good path player it's improved for me. I hated having to give Nicki money and getting sex because of it. Now the way it's handled on that path doesn't feel like it's a transaction but rather something romantic and guy is offering because she is a friend in need of help.I tried the remake of Ch1 now, and I like that you flesh out some parts, but I think the initial sex scene with Nicki is worse. I miss the part where you paint on her and take more photos etc.
I know I was just saying on the good path it's better
Well, it still isn't done yet, so don't count your chickens and all that, but I will admit that it is among my favorites at this point.
That's not a good comparison, and that's not a mistake in the narrative structure for FiN. You go around making moral choices about sex and money throughout the game, and then an antagonist, whose presence and effects on the lives of others has been sprinkled throughout the story through various clues and hints, makes their debut.. and their theme is.. the worst horrible acts one can do with sex... and money.
). Obviously, this film isn't a porn VN, and obviously it's subjective and a lot of people don't like it, but my only point is there are examples where big narrative/tonal switches can work and are well-received by many (maybe not the majority) and, in fact, maybe are kind of the point (it makes for an interesting watching experience). But, again, that's not at all what FiN has done.
Obviously taste is subjective, but I would argue the game went from focusing on the MC and how his decisions affected those around him, to focusing on Lucien and how the MC measures up to him. The fact that Chapter 10 was bookended with a newly introduced, likable character purely to play up the dramatic irony as she inadvertently falls into Lucien's clutches shows just how big a presence Lucien has become overnight.
I don't really care that much about Lucien one way or the other. I still like my idea of hiring someone to remove Lucien as a problem, exfiltrate any girls there and torch his operation but Neon said no. You have to remember though that (unless they know about the patch) people on Patreon and people on Steam are largely playing a different game where Guy isn't really his own enemy, at least not nearly to the same extent. Maybe Neon wanted to give them a decent baddie to deal with.
