VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

[Rintal]

Hard disagree with this at least the way I played the good guy path. To me he just seemed like a caring and nice person I never got the pathetic bitter jerk vibe. Maybe im too nice but if I was the MC I would never kick her out especially because she does tell him how she never wanted to ask for the money to begin with. I just wouldnt give her a penny after the first time if she asked for it anyways but I would try to help her out in other ways if she was really a friend and not someone you wanted to just have sex with. Hell the broken aspect of Nicki's character makes me want to be there for even more.

I don't want to get into a long polemic. Simple fact: MC is in the friend zone. There's nothing more pathetic than a guy pretending to be a friend of a girl he's sexually interested in. Moreover, he is also angry that she is dating someone else, despite the fact that he hasn't made any attempts to get closer to her. He is cowardly, pathetic and toxic. I think this is exactly how the DEV wanted to show it. And as far as I remember, it doesn't depend on which path you choose.

 

[Dessolos]

I don't want to get into a long polemic. Simple fact: MC is in the friend zone. There's nothing more pathetic than a guy pretending to be a friend of a girl he's sexually interested in. Moreover, he is also angry that she is dating someone else, despite the fact that he hasn't made any attempts to get closer to her. He is cowardly, pathetic and toxic. I think this is exactly how the DEV wanted to show it. And as far as I remember, it doesn't depend on which path you choose.

I agree if you are talking about the prologue but not for the entire package of the game which is why I disagreed cause I felt like he got better as the game went on and their relationship did too at least on the good path. But also I'm a bit like the MC in the prologue where I have no backbone and pathetic so that's probably why I disagreed as well since I saw the growth and how the MC improved himself though the game granted it only happened cause he got money but still improved.

 

[Rintal]

I agree if you are talking about the prologue but not for the entire package of the game which is why I disagreed cause I felt like he got better as the game went on and their relationship did too at least on the good path. But also I'm a bit like the MC in the prologue where I have no backbone and pathetic so that's probably why I disagreed as well since I saw the growth and how the MC improved himself though the game granted it only happened cause he got money but still improved.

In any case, you can fantasize whatever you want. Who am I to tell you how to take this story? If for you, MC is a nice, good-natured guy, then so be it.

 

[mahsta]

In any case, you can fantasize whatever you want. Who am I to tell you how to take this story? If for you, MC is a nice, good-natured guy, then so be it.

believe what you want to believe. Express yourself.

 

[Dessolos]

In any case, you can fantasize whatever you want. Who am I to tell you how to take this story? If for you, MC is a nice, good-natured guy, then so be it.

Thanks for being respectful of how I see things sorry if I came off a bit aggressive on how I disagreed just felt like I wanted to share how I saw things. But it's what I love about AVN's we both can interpret something completely different in these games and neither one of us is wrong.

 

[Rintal]

Thanks for being respectful of how I see things sorry if I came off a bit aggressive on how I disagreed just felt like I wanted to share how I saw things. But it's what I love about AVN's we both can interpret something completely different in these games and neither one of us is wrong.

Oh bro! Compared to the people with whom I am used to communicating on a daily basis, I didn’t even notice your “aggression,” if there was any. So don't worry about it.

 

[Dark Silence]

Oh bro! Compared to the people with whom I am used to communicating on a daily basis, I didn’t even notice your “aggression,” if there was any. So don't worry about it.

Dessolos is one of the coolest mofos here. Even when he thinks he's being an asshole or aggressive, he's not. He's just good people.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

There's nothing more pathetic than a guy pretending to be a friend of a girl he's sexually interested in.

Pathetic? That's something every guy can identify with lol. I'd call it completely normal.

Personally, I'm not completely convinced the 1st chapter fully reflects Neon's goals for the character. Unless he changed them mid development, which is possible. 2nd chapter forward is honestly like night and day compared to chp 1. Unless that itself is intentional, I'm not sure. But the MC from what I've seen can be as normal and as nice as you want to make him, for the most part.

In the 1st chapter, I don't at all recall him being "cowardly, pathetic, and toxic". Those are far too strong words, I think, and kinda mean and unfair towards our Guy (unless ofc we're discussing the blackmail/grape routes, obviously). I'd say he's lacking in confidence, unsure of himself and his future, and perhaps deficient in experience and perspective. Money appears to have shored up those issues for him, or at least improved them greatly anyways. Not trying to gang up on your opinion btw.

 

[Rintal]

That's something every guy can identify with lol.

Not every guy at all. But yes, this is common. For insecure teenagers, but not for adult men.

 

[Lndlordd]

Is this image (from the op) in the game...i dont think I came across it on any of the paths..

 

[Dark Silence]

Pathetic? That's something every guy can identify with lol. I'd call it completely normal.

Personally, I'm not completely convinced the 1st chapter fully reflects Neon's goals for the character. Unless he changed them mid development, which is possible. 2nd chapter forward is honestly like night and day compared to chp 1. Unless that itself is intentional, I'm not sure. But the MC from what I've seen can be as normal and as nice as you want to make him, for the most part.

In the 1st chapter, I don't at all recall him being "cowardly, pathetic, and toxic". Those are far too strong words, I think, and kinda mean and unfair towards our Guy (unless ofc we're discussing the blackmail/grape routes, obviously). I'd say he's lacking in confidence, unsure of himself and his future, and perhaps deficient in experience and perspective. Money appears to have shored up those issues for him, or at least improved them greatly anyways. Not trying to gang up on your opinion btw.

People need to remember that if the MC came off like that, it's because they made the choices for him to act that way.

 

[wiseold6996]

Wait the game is getting rebooted?

 

[Dessolos]

Wait the game is getting rebooted?

cant really answer but From what I heard just the prologue and maybe Chapter 1 idk from what I gathered it isnt a major rework.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Not every guy at all. But yes, this is common. For insecure teenagers, but not for adult men.

Grown men can't be insecure around women? That's a rather dismissive and pretty funny thing to say in a forum that's focused on virtual porn with non-existent women.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Is this image (from the op) in the game...i dont think I came across it on any of the paths..
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In the latest chapter at the end of the date when Ashe is in bed, watch the orc stuff or w/e. It'll arrive on your screen along with some other great stuff Although, maybe it only appears if your MC is on the blackmail and/or grape route?

 

[Rintal]

Grown men can't be insecure around women?

Of course they can. But I’m not talking about just grown men, but about mature men. And not just about insecurity, but about the friend zone. And yes, there are different forms of extremes, but I'm talking about the most common things.

 

[Uriel ☁]

Wait the game is getting rebooted?

Only Chapter 1.

Ch1 art was commisioned and not done by Neon, you can easily tell it's quite different. Nicki's model is also different from the one in the following chapters. Ch1 was planned to be a stand-alone game, but has since evolved in a full and much bigger game.

Neon also complained a lot about having coded Ch1 wrong and many player choices weren't saved properly and that's biting him in the ass now.

He also plans of expanding the intro to show more important details and adding more paths for Nicki in Ch1 (like lending her the money without having sex with her) and different consequences in the following chapters depending on how you handled her.

 

[GokutheG]

I'm wondering if the remake of chapter 1 will change the MC's one sided love for Nicki. I'm thinking just showing that they're best friends and that he feels that her boyfriend doesn't treat her well is a good point to start their relationship for the story and it could also tie into him giving her the money without anything in return.

 

[Dark Silence]

I'm wondering if the remake of chapter 1 will change the MC's one sided love for Nicki. I'm thinking just showing that they're best friends and that he feels that her boyfriend doesn't treat her well is a good point to start their relationship for the story and it could also tie into him giving her the money without anything in return.

It's been talked about the dev making it to where we can get on her friend path in the rework, but not sure if that will happen. I can only hope.

 

[Uriel ☁]

I'm wondering if the remake of chapter 1 will change the MC's one sided love for Nicki. I'm thinking just showing that they're best friends and that he feels that her boyfriend doesn't treat her well is a good point to start their relationship for the story and it could also tie into him giving her the money without anything in return.

Yes, Neon said the new intro will show better their friendship before MC becomes a millionaire.