soprano31

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So uh.. not sure if you've played through the game, but she explains that.
Ok,do you want other examples ?

1.Who just goes along with someone,if you have a little sense,
who you have only just met,and perhaps even pressures to go with him ?

2.And if he then abuses and rapes you horribly,
you don't say a single word to your parents,friends or file a complaint with the police ?

3.And the best example is yet to come,
then he still has the courage to come to your door in front of your parents,
and you do nothing at all,and simply follow along obediently,
because he has the courage to threaten you and put pressure at home ?
you don't say anything to your father,you don't try to go along,you don't shout?

If this is someone with a lot of sense,and allows all this to happen like this.. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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hoshimota

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I can understand people thinking Ashe is dumb. I thought she was dumb as a box of rocks until I read these posts. Why? Because she acts fucking braindead at first, and I have not made any effort to pursue her because she is not my type. It's just my personal taste, she is too big/curvy/whatever in my opinion and I don't think her face is pretty, plus I don't like her dialogue/personality/etc. She also comes off as a whore as others have said, she just blatantly agrees to do home with the MC and fucks him like it's nothing - overall she reminds me a shitload of strippers I've known IRL.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE ASHE, MORE POWER TO YOU - I AM NOT SAYING THIS TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS SO RELAX LOL.

I am just saying, there are likely some non-zero number of players out there who haven't gotten to the later dialogue with her that apparently makes her sound less braindead.
 
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Dessolos

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I can understand people thinking Ashe is dumb. I thought she was dumb as a box of rocks until I read these posts. Why? Because she acts fucking braindead at first, and I have not made any effort to pursue her because she is not my type. It's just my personal taste, she is too big/curvy/whatever in my opinion and I don't think her face is pretty, plus I don't like her dialogue/personality/etc. She also comes off as a whore as others have said, she just blatantly agrees to do home with the MC and fucks him like it's nothing - overall she reminds me a shitload of strippers I've known IRL.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE ASHE, MORE POWER TO YOU - I AM NOT SAYING THIS TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS SO RELAX LOL.

I am just saying, there are likely some non-zero number of players out there who haven't gotten to the later dialogue with her that apparently makes her sound less braindead.
I know none of this will change your mind or anything and im not trying to. But Ashe was one of those characters i couldn't appreciate how good her character was until my second play of the game. That's when I started to like Ashe alot before I was uncertain how I ranked her cause I wasn't into her either. Tho I will say I dont really play any LI path for their looks or kinks cause I don't care about lewds. I'm more into getting to them and their characters more than anything else. Which yes I know not many people are like that when it comes to AVN's. Just wanted to share my perspective.
 
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Joshy92

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I hope we can meet Mason's dad in the future.
I know he is a bit of an arsehole but I would still like him to approve of my relationship with Mason.

And I think it would help Mason if he was supportive as well.
 

Quetzzz

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Just out of interest, how did you make the determination that Ashe is dumb as rock, considering she is educated woman with degree, doing job where you do have to have functioning brain?
Like Dessolos said, my first impression of her after meeting her at the bar. The ditsiness, the like-speak. At first, I thought she was more of a wall-flower and clumsy in social interactions, but seeing that part of her job is public speaking, that wasn't the case.
 

Dark Silence

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Like Dessolos said, my first impression of her after meeting her at the bar. The ditsiness, the like-speak. At first, I thought she was more of a wall-flower and clumsy in social interactions, but seeing that part of her job is public speaking, that wasn't the case.
I'm not attracted to blondes and so when I saw her, I was all "No thanks." then when she opened her mouth, whether or not she has brains or not, I noped out of there.
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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You'll never get an appreciation for Ashe's intelligence until you corrupt her and she doesn't give a shit about impressing you anymore.
 
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Ciaran8023

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Wow, I'm impressed that seemingly every potential LI is hated and the MC is hated. Makes you wonder why people even post in here.

However, on topic, it seems like a lot of people just base the entire judgement instantly on the first introduction of a character. People say that Ashe is fucking stupid for following MC, disregarding the fact that she was openly engaging with him at a charity event in front of a LOT of other people, meaning that if something happened to her then people would INSTANTLY know who did it. MC isn't "fuck off" rich either, so he's in a lot more shit than people would fathom if any of the dark path shit he does happened in real life. He's a philanthropist that only makes smaller investments and dislikes/isn't buddy-buddy with the people with REAL fuck off money and connections, so he can't get away with shit.

Moreover, Ashe might be a bit naive at times but she's a lot smarter than people gauge her for and it's literally incredibly easy to spot through the later dialogues. Like come on, she isn't my cup of tea and I friendzoned the shit out of her, but demonizing a character because you don't like her or how she initially came off is fucking mindblowing.
It's a game. I'm not even defending her way of speech or how she comes off, I'm just questioning how you the player just goes head-in-sand and only read what you want to read out of her dialogue.

Though I will say, just more evidence that the characters really are well-written in this game.
 

Dark Silence

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Wow, I'm impressed that seemingly every potential LI is hated and the MC is hated. Makes you wonder why people even post in here.

However, on topic, it seems like a lot of people just base the entire judgement instantly on the first introduction of a character. People say that Ashe is fucking stupid for following MC, disregarding the fact that she was openly engaging with him at a charity event in front of a LOT of other people, meaning that if something happened to her then people would INSTANTLY know who did it. MC isn't "fuck off" rich either, so he's in a lot more shit than people would fathom if any of the dark path shit he does happened in real life. He's a philanthropist that only makes smaller investments and dislikes/isn't buddy-buddy with the people with REAL fuck off money and connections, so he can't get away with shit.

Moreover, Ashe might be a bit naive at times but she's a lot smarter than people gauge her for and it's literally incredibly easy to spot through the later dialogues. Like come on, she isn't my cup of tea and I friendzoned the shit out of her, but demonizing a character because you don't like her or how she initially came off is fucking mindblowing.
It's a game. I'm not even defending her way of speech or how she comes off, I'm just questioning how you the player just goes head-in-sand and only read what you want to read out of her dialogue.

Though I will say, just more evidence that the characters really are well-written in this game.
I don't hate any of the LIs. I just have my preferences.
 
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Dark Silence

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Certainly, I wasn't talking specifically about you nor anyone else who dislikes certain LI's, more the ones who are rageposting like rabid.
Oh I can rage post with the best of them. :ROFLMAO: I know some of my posts make it seem like I don't like most of the girls, but it's just how I talk. I like all of them except one and apparently this last update, well, if you played it, you know what happened and who it is. I haven't played in awhile, been waitin on Gabby and Mason's updates to play again. But I have to reassess how interact with Risa later. But am leanin towards puttin her on the dark path. I'm not a fan of that path. Not judgin people who like it, it's just not for me.
 

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On the arguments regarding ashes intelligence, someone can be well educated but still be very stupid, all a degree proves is you probably have debt and can play by the rules. Intelligence is a dynamic thing that everybody has but is seldom consistent in how it manifest itself or is utilized.
 
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