VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.85c] [NeonGhosts]

[NeonGhosts]

Don't think I every asked. But will chapter one rework update only be that or do you plan to add in some new story content beyond the rework ( part of chapter 11) ( not sure how much is being redone so sorry if this is really dumb question)

Nah, the update following Chapter 10/my hiatus will just be Chapter 1, with some stuff from following chapters reworked/tweaked. Chapter One's basically going to be a ground-up rework, and I'd expect it to land somewhere in the 750-850 render range. So, it'll be pretty sizable. But, at that time I also plan to add in/fix some content that I'd been wanting to address for a long time. Ashe's Dark and Corruption dates will get more content, as will all of Risa's sex scenes from Chapter 9. New positions, etc. I'll also be cleaning up some of Gabby's content in Chapter 2, tweaking things here and there. Then there's also a few scenes where the renders need touched up -- some clipping on Viola's shirt in Chapter 3, disappearing/reappearing wine bottles in Chapter 7, etc.

The goal is basically to present a redone Chapter 1, and a tidied-up Chapters 2-10, somewhere around March.

 

[Dogorti]

Holy fuck, 2 out of the first 3 girls that appear in this game are already super fucking hard NOs for me. This Gabby bitch I'll have no problem following the dark path, hope I can punch her in the neck

 

[PervySageKem]

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I don't even like that shit, I just think she's super fucking annoying.

 

[Nerv_rr]

Holy fuck, 2 out of the first 3 girls that appear in this game are already super fucking hard NOs for me. This Gabby bitch I'll have no problem following the dark path, hope I can punch her in the neck

i dont like gabby too she seems/acts too young tbh , but nicki is great she is a real homie thats a big rare W for a girl...

 

[PervySageKem]

i dont like gabby too she seems/acts too young tbh , but nicki is great she is a real homie thats a big rare W for a girl...

I'm giving her a chance, I was soft to her in the first interaction, I think any other reaction was too harsh for a chick that was just needing money.

Are there any Gabby scenes? the walkthrough makes it seem there arent.

 

[Elduriel]

Gabby is probably the most meh girl for me too, but I don't wish ill on her, I'm just not into her and will avoid her path,simple as that.

 

[Nerv_rr]

I'm giving her a chance, I was soft to her in the first interaction, I think any other reaction was too harsh for a chick that was just needing money.

Are there any Gabby scenes? the walkthrough makes it seem there arent.

you can have some moments whit her but no sex yet...

 

[Dessolos]

Gabby is probably the most meh girl for me too, but I don't wish ill on her, I'm just not into her and will avoid her path,simple as that.

same tho I might also skip on Mason content too not sure don't feel be something I like either. If I do give it a chance jut cause Joshy likes Mason and im curious. But I put Mason and Gabby at the bottom of my list.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Holy fuck, 2 out of the first 3 girls that appear in this game are already super fucking hard NOs for me. This Gabby bitch I'll have no problem following the dark path, hope I can punch her in the neck

Don't let the 1st few interactions with her put you off. Give her a chance. I initially thought she was going full gen z. My eyes were prepared to do a full rotation out of my sockets on the 1st encounter. But I promise you it gets better.... unless you're not one for the whole daddy thing. Then I don't know what to tell you. I went all in so. But even without the freaky stuff, she is a sweetheart. Scouts honor.

 

[NeonGhosts]

A recurring theme in the game is that most people are kind of miserable in the circumstance where we first find them. This mirrors Guy's own path. Like, does Guy in Chapter 1 seem like someone you want to hang out with? No! He's a miserable misanthrope that spends his day's moping over the girl he likes, but is too much of a wet noodle to make a move on.

• Nicki's perpetually screwed over by the blindspot she has for controlling men, leading to one crappy decision after another.
• Gabby's an 18/19 year-old who feels chained to a business she wants no part of, right when she's trying to start her own life.
• Ashe's career aspirations (and life) have been stalled by people being unwilling/unable to take her seriously.

So on and so forth. If everyone was perfectly well-adjusted and happy, they wouldn't need Guy/the player in their life.

 

[Elduriel]

same tho I might also skip on Mason content too not sure don't feel be something I like either. If I do give it a chance jut cause Joshy likes Mason and im curious. But I put Mason and Gabby at the bottom of my list.

I'd still rank Mason higher, but I mostly prefer the friend path with him (her?). At the very least, I like his story content better than Gabby. I'll still play the possible routes because one I'm curious how it turns out and two I'm bored a lot

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Nah, the update following Chapter 10/my hiatus will just be Chapter 1, with some stuff from following chapters reworked/tweaked. Chapter One's basically going to be a ground-up rework, and I'd expect it to land somewhere in the 750-850 render range. So, it'll be pretty sizable. But, at that time I also plan to add in/fix some content that I'd been wanting to address for a long time. Ashe's Dark and Corruption dates will get more content, as will all of Risa's sex scenes from Chapter 9. New positions, etc. I'll also be cleaning up some of Gabby's content in Chapter 2, tweaking things here and there. Then there's also a few scenes where the renders need touched up -- some clipping on Viola's shirt in Chapter 3, disappearing/reappearing wine bottles in Chapter 7, etc.

The goal is basically to present a redone Chapter 1, and a tidied-up Chapters 2-10, somewhere around March.

Do you plan on any impact of the redone chapter 1 on the following chapters? I.E., looking at the code, you somewhat changed how you were tracking routes with Nicki and Ashe. Are you gonna make those more in line with how you handled it later? Or will it be a like for like in terms of path?

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Don't let the 1st few interactions with her put you off. Give her a chance. I initially thought she was going full gen z. My eyes were prepared to do a full rotation out of my sockets on the 1st encounter. But I promise you it gets better.... unless you're not one for the whole daddy thing. Then I don't know what to tell you. I went all in so. But even without the freaky stuff, she is a sweetheart. Scouts honor.

I've said this on this thread multiple times, that you can make a case for each girl being a total bitch or a damsel in distress depending on how you interpret their actions (except for Viola, who, to my reckoning doesn't really have a 'bitch' interpretation yet).

Nicki - Gold digger / Needs rescuing from her poor choice in men
Ashe - Opportunist / Naive and ditzy
Gabby - Spoiled brat / Girl from a broken home
Brittani - User of everyone around her / Victim of a unloving mother
Risa - Drug Addict / Trying to make amends for past bad choices
Mason - Lazy / Victim of a transphobic father
Piper - Close off Ice Queen / Comes from a horrible home life
Viola - (Not sure) / Trying to do the best for her ailing mother

I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. But like I've said, it all depends on interpretation of their motives, which is why I love this game.

 

[NeonGhosts]

Do you plan on any impact of the redone chapter 1 on the following chapters? I.E., looking at the code, you somewhat changed how you were tracking routes with Nicki and Ashe. Are you gonna make those more in line with how you handled it later? Or will it be a like for like in terms of path?

I'll definitely be re-labeling some things, and adding new/different variables. A lot of the early chapters suffered from me not labeling things appropriately. But, I don't want to get too in the weeds with it, and create a giant mess.

 

[Joshy92]

A recurring theme in the game is that most people are kind of miserable in the circumstance where we first find them. This mirrors Guy's own path. Like, does Guy in Chapter 1 seem like someone you want to hang out with? No! He's a miserable misanthrope that spends his day's moping over the girl he likes, but is too much of a wet noodle to make a move on.

• Nicki's perpetually screwed over by the blindspot she has for controlling men, leading to one crappy decision after another.
• Gabby's an 18/19 year-old who feels chained to a business she wants no part of, right when she's trying to start her own life.
• Ashe's career aspirations (and life) have been stalled by people being unwilling/unable to take her seriously.

So on and so forth. If everyone was perfectly well-adjusted and happy, they wouldn't need Guy/the player in their life.

To be fair I'd be mopey too if Nicki left I mean she an angel so I can understand Guy there.

I've said this on this thread multiple times, that you can make a case for each girl being a total bitch or a damsel in distress depending on how you interpret their actions (except for Viola, who, to my reckoning doesn't really have a 'bitch' interpretation yet).

Nicki - Gold digger / Needs rescuing from her poor choice in men
Ashe - Opportunist / Naive and ditzy
Gabby - Spoiled brat / Girl from a broken home
Brittani - User of everyone around her / Victim of a unloving mother
Risa - Drug Addict / Trying to make amends for past bad choices
Mason - Lazy / Victim of a transphobic father
Piper - Close off Ice Queen / Comes from a horrible home life
Viola - (Not sure) / Trying to do the best for her ailing mother

I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. But like I've said, it all depends on interpretation of their motives, which is why I love this game.

Mason lazy? I'm now triggered lol

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Mason lazy? I'm now triggered lol

Somehow I knew you would be.

 

[MagicMan753]

Nah, the update following Chapter 10/my hiatus will just be Chapter 1, with some stuff from following chapters reworked/tweaked. Chapter One's basically going to be a ground-up rework, and I'd expect it to land somewhere in the 750-850 render range. So, it'll be pretty sizable. But, at that time I also plan to add in/fix some content that I'd been wanting to address for a long time. Ashe's Dark and Corruption dates will get more content, as will all of Risa's sex scenes from Chapter 9. New positions, etc. I'll also be cleaning up some of Gabby's content in Chapter 2, tweaking things here and there. Then there's also a few scenes where the renders need touched up -- some clipping on Viola's shirt in Chapter 3, disappearing/reappearing wine bottles in Chapter 7, etc.

The goal is basically to present a redone Chapter 1, and a tidied-up Chapters 2-10, somewhere around March.

Do you also plan on possibly adding that point system at the end of ashe's date that you mentioned a couple times too, during this slight rework, to be able to do more things before psssing out?

 

[Dr. Mick]

I've said this on this thread multiple times, that you can make a case for each girl being a total bitch or a damsel in distress depending on how you interpret their actions (except for Viola, who, to my reckoning doesn't really have a 'bitch' interpretation yet).

Nicki - Gold digger / Needs rescuing from her poor choice in men
Ashe - Opportunist / Naive and ditzy
Gabby - Spoiled brat / Girl from a broken home
Brittani - User of everyone around her / Victim of a unloving mother
Risa - Drug Addict / Trying to make amends for past bad choices
Mason - Lazy / Victim of a transphobic father
Piper - Close off Ice Queen / Comes from a horrible home life
Viola - (Not sure) / Trying to do the best for her ailing mother

I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. But like I've said, it all depends on interpretation of their motives, which is why I love this game.

Interesting take on it.
Admittedly, I'm not sure who two of those are; probably didn't find them interesting enough to remember them (I'm also bad with names). Half of that list I'm interested to see where their story goes, along with one other character not listed. The other half could disappear from the story, and I'd barely notice.

To each their own.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Yeah, but that also sucks. I kinda just want to yell at her and make her go away? But my options are to either be a beta loser or a rapist...

You can just pay her and keep the sex pretty casual as a middle-ground. I guess come March it'll all be tidied up anyways, maybe it'll be better received then.

It is unfortunate though that any kind of vulnerability or weakness in an MC character sometimes gets chucked into the "beta loser" bucket. We're all 'beta losers' at some point in our lives, I think it's nice when it gets represented in fiction. I know it's sex fantasy so a lot of people don't want that angle, but I love it. Gives lots of room for character growth and an actual story as opposed to 'magic dick, wins every physical altercation'.

I'm giving her a chance, I was soft to her in the first interaction, I think any other reaction was too harsh for a chick that was just needing money.

Are there any Gabby scenes? the walkthrough makes it seem there arent.

There's a BJ scene where you can potentially do some other naughty things, but no sex sex yet

 

[Machete]

Yeah, but that also sucks. I kinda just want to yell at her and make her go away? But my options are to either be a beta loser or a rapist...

I understand you. Not with Nicki, i'm rather fine with her, but i had LIs of some game that i really couldn't suffer and they where even unavoidable. I stopped playing a few games because of that. The complete full agency unfortinuately is way impossible. I think Friends if Need leaves a lot of choices though. I don't see it much like simping with Nicki. You can flaunt her some big bucks that MC can totally efford and send her her merry way or put here decently under control if you then go romantic. Sure is not the most reassuring pandering relationship in the world of visual novels, but i think the false start makes it more interesting. Not really my pair of shoes, i prefer other girls from the game, but i'm cool with her.