NeonGhosts

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when i met gabby, the camera pan auto skipped. I assume i might need the taboo patch, but i do have it. Am i missing something?
I fucked up and didn't put a pause after the image. I've fixed the code, and it'll be remedied in the next release.

所以她真的这么矮吗?
So, is she really that short?
Nicki's height is regularly referenced as a joke, so yeah -- she's very short.

Although.. I think girls in AVNs tend to be unrealistically tall? Like, I'm 5'11, so not super tall. But most girls I know are in the ballpark of Nicki/Gabby/Viola's heights. Girls like Ashe and Madison would be bigger outliers, standing near Guy's height.

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I'm glad people can appreciate why I wanted to elongate Ashe and Gabby's timeline with Guy.

As for the breakup path, that does continue to have repercussions, but they're pretty soft ones. It's mainly just about Ashe's reaction to you, in following chapters.

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who can tell me how to start fucking Viola but not feel like the same pig as her landlord?
Be nice and hire her as your maid, and you'll see more of her in S2.

Um, what does nipos mean? is it a good thing or a bad thing?
All the love interests have a [name]pos and [name]neg value, indicating a broadly positive or negative relationship. These shouldn't be examined too closely, as they work in conjunction with other variables.

For instance, you can have:
  • $ ashrel = 2
  • $ ashneg = True
  • $ ashpos = False
  • $ ashlust = True
This indicates you're on Ashe's corruption path (ashrel), she feels mostly negative toward you (ashneg/ashpos) and she wants to fuck you (ashlust). This just allows me to write dialogue more easily. As an example, I could have something like this, using the similar renders, but with a pretty different vibe.

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Although.. I think girls in AVNs tend to be unrealistically tall?
I don't think they're tall per se, but most devs use models positioned to stand on their tiptoes, for all the stripper heels they make them wear. Even when the girls are barefoot. So that adds a few inches to their heights pretty much permanently.
 
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Nicki's height is regularly referenced as a joke, so yeah -- she's very short.

Although.. I think girls in AVNs tend to be unrealistically tall? Like, I'm 5'11, so not super tall. But most girls I know are in the ballpark of Nicki/Gabby/Viola's heights. Girls like Ashe and Madison would be bigger outliers, standing near Guy's height.

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I don't think they're tall per se, but most devs use models positioned to stand on their tiptoes, for all the stripper heels they make them wear. Even when the girls are barefoot. So that adds a few inches to their heights pretty much permanently.
At least in regards to VNs using DAZ for the images it is usually caused by the model being used. DAZ female models are notorious for being too tall, Victoria 8 was 6' (183 cm). There is nothing wrong selling a larger model because it is better to scale down than to scale up. But since AVN developers are mostly just amateurs they don't bother changing sizes if it isn't breast.
 
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Has this game been completely redone or just part of it? None of my saves worked on the last 2 updates and I finally decided to start over in fast forward mode but I noticed a bunch of different content and started replaying it. Do I need to re-read the whole thing or not? Kind of annoying but it's one of my favorites so I guess I can do it if I have to.
 
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I'm still planning on it. But Valve's policy changes meant I'd have to cut more material than I had planned to, and that's on top of removing characters like Gabby and Viola's ero scenes, just to make sure it's approved. It doesn't matter that I can point to porn stars and OnlyFans gals with body types just like those characters -- if one of Valve's content moderators shoots it down, the game's banned for life. So I have to make it bulletproof, and that takes time.

But the question becomes: what's left after I cut that much material? There's still a lot of Nicki, Brittani, Ashe, Risa, etc. and there will be patches that can restore lost material. But, I need to give it some careful consideration before I submit a build for approval.
Ahh, of course. A lot more tricky now. GoG is quite liberal about it
 
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Personally guns are just way too easy of a problem solver. They'd just diminish any type of tension because if the Mc has one why not use it to solve all your problems. The only counters would be either in a setting where they are outright outlawed so you'd have to balance the danger from being busted with the ability to defend yourself or having the opponent being someone whom if you threaten them with one is a VERY bad idea.

The mc here is rich enough that hiring personal security would be the smartest idea.
Why not use it to solve all your problems? Like what? You know people own guns in the real world right? Its for self defense, anyone who leaves their protection completely in the hands of others is a fool. Its honestly less realistic if there's no guns, this game takes place in America.
 

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I see everything has changed since I played it... and it doesn't even have an in-game gallery anymore... which is essential for these non-sandbox games but narrative ones with multiple choices
 

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Why not use it to solve all your problems? Like what? You know people own guns in the real world right? Its for self defense, anyone who leaves their protection completely in the hands of others is a fool. Its honestly less realistic if there's no guns, this game takes place in America.
Because as a said introducing a gun will diminish some of the possible tension that can take place in the story. There needs to be some type of drawback in order to maintain the tension for the story. The body guard aspect has a number of possible downsides to counter the positives and also maintain said tension in the story. Besides it isn't unrealistic for the mc to not have a gun since it's also consistent with celebrities/ rich folk not having to handle their own security. And not everyone in America is into guns.
 

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a gallery would be nice. also do we get to fuck Brittani?
A Gallery is one of those QOL things which makes the last release 0.95b, and not 1.0. It's in the works, but the story was more important.

Fucking Brittani is probably going to be in the second Chapter of Season 2. Figure 4-6 months.

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who can tell me how to start fucking Viola but not feel like the same pig as her landlord?

Then how am I better than that landlord? I'm not playing the rapist. Even with Gabby, I didn't cross the line. Damn it, I really want to make Viola my cock-hungry slut maid..
You can't - so far. That will change eventually, most likely, but we don't know when.
 

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I'll be so fucking jealous of dark path players if they get Cassie and I don't. She is better than most girls in game for me. I'd take her over Risa, Gabby, Alex, Caroline or Madison anyday.
You may not get to fuck her Joshy, but I predict you will be happy with what you get.

Or, you could go the light corruption route. That feels like something you might enjoy. No violence, no threats. All carrot, no stick.
 
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Because as a said introducing a gun will diminish some of the possible tension that can take place in the story. There needs to be some type of drawback in order to maintain the tension for the story. The body guard aspect has a number of possible downsides to counter the positives and also maintain said tension in the story. Besides it isn't unrealistic for the mc to not have a gun since it's also consistent with celebrities/ rich folk not having to handle their own security. And not everyone in America is into guns.
But the flipside to that is that if having a gun would spare the MC all that drama, he looks pretty stupid not getting one. I'm not a big fan of firearms in general, but when our hero knows he could be facing off against extremely dangerous rapists, guns aren't the escalation they would be in 'ordinary' situations.
 
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Does the taboo patch not work or did multiple scenes get removed?
It works. Is the heart in the upper left of the title screen grey? If not, you don't have the patch in the right place. Make sure you have a file named patch.rpy in the game folder.
 

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Has this game been completely redone or just part of it? None of my saves worked on the last 2 updates and I finally decided to start over in fast forward mode but I noticed a bunch of different content and started replaying it. Do I need to re-read the whole thing or not? Kind of annoying but it's one of my favorites so I guess I can do it if I have to.
All of the first chapter was remade, and there is a big addition to the beginning of Chapter 2. There are a bunch of little changes after that. The entire code of the game was rewritten to make more sense, which is why your old saves won't work.

I see everything has changed since I played it... and it doesn't even have an in-game gallery anymore... which is essential for these non-sandbox games but narrative ones with multiple choices
It never had a gallery - that was a third party mod. It is planned, but not yet implemented.
 

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But the flipside to that is that if having a gun would spare the MC all that drama, he looks pretty stupid not getting one. I'm not a big fan of firearms in general, but when our hero knows he could be facing off against extremely dangerous rapists, guns aren't the escalation they would be in 'ordinary' situations.
When you say they're not the "escalation they..." do you mean that Guy should expect an elevation baseline threat of violence from here on out? Or something else? Because flashing a gun seems to always be a drastic escalation of violence. Especially when you factor in the 2nd rule of firearm safety ("Never point the muzzle at anything you are not willing to destroy")
 
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