VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [S1 v0.95b] [NeonGhosts]

[GokutheG]

But the flipside to that is that if having a gun would spare the MC all that drama, he looks pretty stupid not getting one. I'm not a big fan of firearms in general, but when our hero knows he could be facing off against extremely dangerous rapists, guns aren't the escalation they would be in 'ordinary' situations.

But that drama is the story. Don't want to skip out on that and how he can overcome it.

 

[ffive]

But the flipside to that is that if having a gun would spare the MC all that drama, he looks pretty stupid not getting one. I'm not a big fan of firearms in general, but when our hero knows he could be facing off against extremely dangerous rapists, guns aren't the escalation they would be in 'ordinary' situations.

How would pulling a gun on unhinged drug dealer and rapist not be the escalation and basically an invite for either the psycho or his bodyguard to put a cap in MC's head and dump the body in the river? Especially when they could claim it was self-defense after being threatened with a gun.

 

[Joshy92]

That's why Guy couldn't just shoot him. You wait and follow Lucien and when he's alone then you shoot him.

 

[adryanFSN]

so does both the gallery mod and the walkthrough mod not work? Ive tried both and havent seen anything pop up in game

 

[ffive]

That's why Guy couldn't just shoot him. You wait and follow Lucien and when he's alone then you shoot him.

And then spend 20 to life for premeditated murder.

 

[ename144]

When you say they're not the "escalation they..." do you mean that Guy should expect an elevation baseline threat of violence from here on out? Or something else? Because flashing a gun seems to always be a drastic escalation of violence. Especially when you factor in the 2nd rule of firearm safety ("Never point the muzzle at anything you are not willing to destroy")

How would pulling a gun on unhinged drug dealer and rapist not be the escalation and basically an invite for either the psycho or his bodyguard to put a cap in MC's head and dump the body in the river? Especially when they could claim it was self-defense after being threatened with a gun.

Uhh, I am not suggesting the MC 'threaten' anyone, I'm suggesting he shoot to kill should the opportunity come up. Using a gun might well wind up getting the MC killed or arrested, sure, but my position is that if the MC is literally watching girls get dragged off to be raped then the situation is already violent. Either the MC looks the other way, or he gets involved and all options need to be on the table.

Obviously the gun alone isn't going to fix everything, and if the MC can find a way to eliminate Lucien et al without a gun so much the better. But IMHO refusing to arm himself on the assumption that his adversaries will agree to keep things non-lethal is foolish. Markus already made that clear.

 

[SteveyP]

Uhh, I am not suggesting the MC 'threaten' anyone, I'm suggesting he shoot to kill should the opportunity come up. Using a gun might well wind up getting the MC killed or arrested, sure, but my position is that if the MC is literally watching girls get dragged off to be raped then the situation is already violent. Either the MC looks the other way, or he gets involved and all options need to be on the table.

Obviously the gun alone isn't going to fix everything, and if the MC can find a way to eliminate Lucien et al without a gun so much the better. But IMHO refusing to arm himself on the assumption that his adversaries will agree to keep things non-lethal is foolish. Markus already made that clear.

Gotcha, seems like you're saying the former. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Killerkaz88]

So the ending which has been out for over a year, just a little bit of a remake here and there. Man that really blows.

 

[soprano31]

Man that really blows.

Sorry,there will be no gay tag,only blow jobs by woman,not by men..

 

[ffive]

Uhh, I am not suggesting the MC 'threaten' anyone, I'm suggesting he shoot to kill should the opportunity come up.

But why do you expect a guy who's effectively been nothing but a fat nerd afraid to even speak up to chide guys cat-calling a girl in public space, to suddenly become some sort of cold-blooded Rambo or some other John Wick, with enough gun skills to overcome people who actually do face and engage in violence on regular basis...? Because i imagine the outcome to be far more likely for him to just freeze up and end up killed himself.

Obviously the gun alone isn't going to fix everything, and if the MC can find a way to eliminate Lucien et al without a gun so much the better. But IMHO refusing to arm himself on the assumption that his adversaries will agree to keep things non-lethal is foolish. Markus already made that clear.

Well, the fact is that they haven't killed Guy when they were in perfect position to do so. I think this is quite likely because Guy did not have a gun to pull on them in response and escalate the situation far beyond what it was.

 

[ename144]

But why do you expect a guy who's effectively been nothing but a fat nerd afraid to even speak up to chide guys cat-calling a girl in public space, to suddenly become some sort of cold-blooded Rambo or some other John Wick, with enough gun skills to overcome people who actually do face and engage in violence on regular basis...? Because i imagine the outcome to be far more likely for him to just freeze up and end up killed himself.

I don't expect him to "suddenly" become the modern Charles Bronson. I expect him to take some time out of his allegedly busy schedule to train with a gun, just like he is with Alex's self-defense lessons.

Well, the fact is that they haven't killed Guy when they were in perfect position to do so. I think this is quite likely because Guy did not have a gun to pull on them in response and escalate the situation far beyond what it was.

First of all, it's not like they frisked him. Maybe carrying a gun would have got him killed, or maybe they were overconfident and simply assumed he was no danger to them. We'll never know. Second and more importantly, IF the MC winds up confronting them again it's entirely possible they won't wait to find out if the MC is dangerous the second time.

My whole point is that if the MC unilaterally disarms himself, he has precious few options if the bad guys do decide to kill him later on. If he learns how to use a gun, he can at least fight back should that be necessary, and always has the option to leave the gun at home if he reasonably expects it to be counterproductive. I'm not saying guns are some magical solution, I just dislike dismissing them out of hand simply because they are overkill in most situations. Lucien *isn't* most situations, he's a situation that absolutely justifies a lethal response.

 

[ramvivat]

Be nice and hire her as your maid, and you'll see more of her in S2.

yes, but do i need to lewd her in the clothing store by paying here for modeling clothes and pay her for sex?

 

[Lightaces]

so does both the gallery mod and the walkthrough mod not work? Ive tried both and havent seen anything pop up in game

They are both written for old versions of the game, and pretty much all of the code has been rewritten, so no, they will not work. At some point, there will be a gallery built into the game, Neon just deemed it more important to finish and release the story. But a fan was working on the code for the gallery. Not sure where that's at right now, but the gallery is one of the reasons this is v0.95b, not 1.0.

Sorry,there will be no gay tag,only blow jobs by woman,not by men..

[cough]Mason[\cough]

yes, but do i need to lewd her in the clothing store by paying here for modeling clothes and pay her for sex?

Viola is a lesbian (from what we can tell), a virgin, and morally pretty uptight. It took a lot just to get her to turn around in the gold bikini! The best you are going to get without force is her masturbating for you, and a little bit of degradation. And if that makes you feel a bit like the landlord, well, you're not wrong. It is already out of character for her to do that much - and even that is only out of sheer desperation. But treat her well, and the future is bright!

 

[ename144]

I've finally finished the reworked Chapter 1. I noticed a couple of minor typos , so I'll report them here in case Neon hasn't fixed them yet.

Spoiler: Friends In Need v0.95b Typos

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[soprano31]

[cough]Mason[\cough]

as i say,only creatures with the female anatomy..

 

[SynthScribe]

Aside from dealing with the (fewer than expected) bug reports

- Hopefully this is a good thing? That or do we leachers need to up our game?

Spoiler: Beta Testers

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[Terminationable]

So season 1 is done... Damn, that was nice.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

lol @ the people who want Guy to walk around with a gun... brilliant suggestion, I hope neon invites you onto the writing team so you can improve the game!

There is more than two routes. More like four basic alignments, with a lot of variations. There is one alignment, at most, which is likely to not have a Cassie path. But the even the light grey corruption path will have a Cassie option. You will absolutely NOT have to go the full rapist route to bone Cassie.

Did Neon confirm light corruption route for Cassie? Because the way I see it, if romance doesn't work, I don't see how light corruption works.. she isn't going to fall in love with her sibling, totally normal, but she'll fuck him for money??

I really want Cassie content on all the routes, and I kind of just assumed he was going to write her character to be more on the really rare, taboo side or something, where she can develop feelings over time, maybe feeling horrified about it or something. But, if that's not the type of person she is, well, in my mind, the only route that honestly makes sense is the dark route, or maybe the dark corruption route if she's desperate, or drug-addled or something.

I'm curious to find out.

Though it's never actually mentioned in-game, Nicki hails from the state of Alabama...

That's one of the last states I would've expected, haha. Although, this kind of makes her background of potentially being abused by one of her brothers on the stereotype side.

 

[Joshy92]

And then spend 20 to life for premeditated murder.

Lucien is a scumbag rapist, no one will miss him and all Guy has to do is bribe a cop to get rid of evidence if it gets that far. But more importantly, if Guy chops off Lucien's hands and removes his teeth, it would make it even harder to identify the body.

Thirdly it's a game, anything can happen, look at how many people get away with murder every day. Guy can hire a great lawyer to make him seem like a hero in the public's eyes.

 

[cccxxx]

sooooo .95 ends at the jail as .85
unless i'n missing content no forward movement
what was the point ?
is there anything new ? and i don't mean redone pics
thanks